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Where should away fans be situated (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Jan 14, 2024
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Jan 15, 2024
  • #71
Astute said:
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I don't think you get the idea. The idea is to make it less pleasurable.
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I was at Vienna Airport once during Euro 2008 and saw a sex shop at the airport , they had a lot of those lol.
 
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Marty

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  • Jan 15, 2024
  • #72
mmttww said:
Pretty sure all grounds have cameras facing the dugouts. Don't see that will ever change tbh.
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Loads don't tbf, from the top of my head, Stamford Bridge, Emirates, Etihad, St James park, Old Trafford, New Spurs stadium, London Stadium, St Andrews, The Den are all behind the dugouts
 
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Covkid1968#

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  • Jan 15, 2024
  • #73
Spoke to 2 Leics fans yesterday and they said it’s by far the worst stadium to get away from for away fans. They felt scared when Cov idiots tried to get at them over the fence. They go every single away game and said ours is a completely different experience. I want the place to be intimidating but not quite in that way.
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Jan 15, 2024
  • #74
Covkid1968# said:
Spoke to 2 Leics fans yesterday and they said it’s by far the worst stadium to get away from for away fans. They felt scared when Cov idiots tried to get at them over the fence. They go every single away game and said ours is a completely different experience. I want the place to be intimidating but not quite in that way.
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First time I went to an away game to the old Filbert St I wondered why there was netting between the away end and theirs. Then the sharpened coins started being thrown at us. I just don't get why people want to look to fight fans at games.
 

Skybluedownunder

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  • Jan 15, 2024
  • #75
100% in a corner. Not behind a goal where they can wind a goalie up or put somebody off taking a penalty… that should be for us only to do haha


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Gynnsthetonic

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  • Jan 15, 2024
  • #76
Don't think the demographics will allow for the corners, stick em behind one goal with the option to give them 4.5k. 3k or 2k, with increasing home demand we can have half of it
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Jan 15, 2024
  • #77
Gynnsthetonic said:
Don't think the demographics will allow for the corners, stick em behind one goal with the option to give them 4.5k. 3k or 2k, with increasing home demand we can half of it
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If our ground had been designed a bit differently, we could have stuck the away fans high like they do at Newcastle .
 
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Monty

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  • Jan 15, 2024
  • #78
I wonder if the East stand would work going towards but not taking over singers corner. A fenced off walkway could be put in place making fans come under the railway line, and home fans use the other tunnel. It could be a coach drop off point and then the wasteland made to an away fan carpark. The direction from the garden of rememberence would be completely shut off for fans. That then means the fans don't meet and they don't have a spot behind the goals.
 

Gynnsthetonic

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  • Jan 15, 2024
  • #79
You can't stop fans mingling, every ground does, it's just so impractical to do it, the fence coming out of the railway tunnel needs moving further in as it's a bottle neck after the game
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Jan 15, 2024
  • #80
Do like they do at Lesta, in the corner limited numbers, in our case under the police box and only up to block 9 Make a new wall in the concourse and block them in to that area, why make it a comfortable experience for away fans? Where else make us feel at home when we go away?
 

Calista

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  • Jan 15, 2024
  • #81
hamertime said:
Where the family zone is as the sun is in your eyes most the time. 2500 max. No beer either, just water and bread.
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And broccoli.
 

Joy Division

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  • Jan 15, 2024
  • #82
Evo1883 said:
Serious question and probably one that Pete can put to the club at the next meeting , where is the best place to have away fans whilst giving more room for home fans ?
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Like this, as has already proven to have been done

 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 15, 2024
  • #83
Joy Division said:
Like this, as has already proven to have been done

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How many away fans there?
 

pusbccfc

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  • Jan 15, 2024
  • #84
shmmeee said:
How many away fans there?
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1600. I reckon if you put fans in those empty seats and had a small strip of segregation and stewards, it would be 2000. That's what most clubs give at this level.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 15, 2024
  • #85
pusbccfc said:
1600. I reckon if you put fans in those empty seats and had a small strip of segregation and stewards, it would be 2000. That's what most clubs give at this level.
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3k is the minimum if you’re over 30k capacity I believe. Or 10% if not.
 
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wingy

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  • Jan 15, 2024
  • #86
shmmeee said:
3k is the minimum if you’re over 30k capacity I believe. Or 10% if not.
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Middlesbrough?
 

pusbccfc

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  • Jan 15, 2024
  • #87
shmmeee said:
3k is the minimum if you’re over 30k capacity I believe. Or 10% if not.
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In the Premier League, yes. In the Championship, clubs offer well below that. I'm not sure the exact minimum.

Birmingham, West Brom, Norwich, Ipswich, Sunderland, Swansea, Boro and Watford all give about 2000.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 15, 2024
  • #88
Alkhen said:
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There is loads of space to install TV gantry locations up on the weird blank wall on the west stand. Would instantly free up a few hundred seats. Would look way better on highlights. Looks a bit depressing when the corporate lot stay inside eating sandwiches. Same issue Wembley has on TV
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Pretty sure it's just void space behind there though, can it even support a gantry?
 

TomRad85

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  • Jan 15, 2024
  • #89
I'm gonna say it, never thought I'd say it, but here it is... if we get to the Prem, our ground isn't big enough. Support for this club is absolutely swelling.

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shmmeee

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  • Jan 15, 2024
  • #90
pusbccfc said:
In the Premier League, yes. In the Championship, clubs offer well below that. I'm not sure the exact minimum.

Birmingham, West Brom, Norwich, Ipswich, Sunderland, Swansea, Boro and Watford all give about 2000.
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In that case fuck em, 1.5k it is.
 
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Cov_92

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  • Jan 15, 2024
  • #91
pusbccfc said:
In the Premier League, yes. In the Championship, clubs offer well below that. I'm not sure the exact minimum.

Birmingham, West Brom, Norwich, Ipswich, Sunderland, Swansea, Boro and Watford all give about 2000.
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EFL rules apply for away ticket numbers
 
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wingy

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  • Jan 15, 2024
  • #92
fernandopartridge said:
Pretty sure it's just void space behind there though, can it even support a gantry?
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Is there a need for with the roof structure,actually looks like there is walkway under the roof at the Rh end plus there may be a structure behind, although you can't tell without exposing it but there'll be a column of some sorts there where the panel's are fixed I think may or may not be structural but with the right fixings,need a strural engineer,rich used to calculate roof trusses I think?
 
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Cov_92

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  • Jan 15, 2024
  • #93
shmmeee said:
In that case fuck em, 1.5k it is.
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10% EFL, 15% FA Cup
 
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Cov_92

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  • Jan 15, 2024
  • #94
SOCCFC said:
10% EFL, 15% FA Cup
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FA Cup 4875
Carabao + EFL 3200
UEFA 1600
 

David O'Day

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  • Jan 15, 2024
  • #95
SOCCFC said:
FA Cup 4875
Carabao + EFL 3200
UEFA 1600
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how do other clubs get away with it? Leeds for example are not giving people 10% of elland road
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Jan 15, 2024
  • #96
Put them in the north stand so they get the sun straight in their faces when the sun's out.
 

mmttww

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  • Jan 15, 2024
  • #97
David O'Day said:
how do other clubs get away with it? Leeds for example are not giving people 10% of elland road
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Maybe it's 10% of general sale excl. hospitality?
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 15, 2024
  • #98
SOCCFC said:
FA Cup 4875
Carabao + EFL 3200
UEFA 1600
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This suggests EFL is 2k;

 
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David O'Day

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  • Jan 15, 2024
  • #99
mmttww said:
Maybe it's 10% of general sale excl. hospitality?
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leeds give you leeds than 10% even if you take into account hospitality, elland road holds like 37,000

Boro give people 2000 tickets and the riverside is over 30k capacity

I am just wondering how they do it if there are efl rules
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 15, 2024
  • #100
Also apparently the SAG can override the minimum in the FA Cup. So we could just provide 3k max and say we can’t have more safely.
 
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Cov_92

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  • Jan 16, 2024
  • #101
David O'Day said:
how do other clubs get away with it? Leeds for example are not giving people 10% of elland road
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There are caveats to these figures, if a club makes representation to EFL etc, to reduce allocation for a particular fixture, possibly based on risk intelligence or for a specific period of time.
 
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Cov_92

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  • Jan 16, 2024
  • #102
SOCCFC said:
There are caveats to these figures, if a club makes representation to EFL etc, to reduce allocation for a particular fixture, possibly based on risk intelligence or for a specific period of time.
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EFL regulations 35.3.1 for reference.
 

Calista

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  • Jan 16, 2024
  • #103
SOCCFC said:
EFL regulations 35.3.1 for reference.
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Which is what shmmeee quoted above, suggesting 2000 rather than your figure of 3200?
 
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Cov_92

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  • Jan 16, 2024
  • #104
Calista said:
Which is what shmmeee quoted above, suggesting 2000 rather than your figure of 3200?
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Based on ground capacity
 
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Cov_92

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  • Jan 16, 2024
  • #105
SOCCFC said:
Based on ground capacity
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However, guidance from police, and other partners would always be a determining factor on agreed capacity.
 
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