Where should away fans be situated (1 Viewer)

Evo1883 · Jan 14, 2024

Serious question and probably one that Pete can put to the club at the next meeting , where is the best place to have away fans whilst giving more room for home fans ?

With the new clubshop being by the away end , which in my humble opinion is poor situated considering away fans are right there and home fans have to mingle through them to get there , shouldn't behind that goal be for home fans ?

Really tough one tbh

Nick · Jan 14, 2024

In the bin.

Is there a diagram of where all of the shutters in the concourse are?

The only other option is where the family zone is now.

Evo1883 · Jan 14, 2024

Nick said:
In the bin.

Is there a diagram of where all of the shutters in the concourse are?

The only other option is where the family zone is now.

Thing is would it be hard to get a new shutter fitted in a location of your choice ?

Gint11 · Jan 14, 2024

For me, home fans should be behind both goals but that’s in an ideal world.

Greggs · Jan 14, 2024

Shoved in a corner.

Astute · Jan 14, 2024

Greggs said:
Shoved in a corner.

With their seats pointing in the wrong direction.

covcity4life · Jan 14, 2024

Corner sounds good to me

Or squeezed between home fans. So we put home fans in the corner behind that goal. But then would have to limit allocations for away fans

mmttww · Jan 14, 2024

Greggs said:
Shoved in a corner.

Either 6-10 or where the Family Zone is. First is more realistic with the way the ground was built, second is better as they'll be stuck with the sun in their eyes.

hamertime · Jan 14, 2024

Where the family zone is as the sun is in your eyes most the time. 2500 max. No beer either, just water and bread.

David O'Day · Jan 14, 2024

Where they are now

They aren't going to move them, the cost is too much and to give them enough toilets, turnstiles and facilities you would end up blocking off home vomitoriums if they were moved to the to old telegraph or tesco stands

rob9872 · Jan 14, 2024

6 - 10 definitely and less stupid segregation.

Calista · Jan 14, 2024

hamertime said:
Where the family zone is as the sun is in your eyes most the time. 2500 max. No beer either, just water and bread.

Stale bread.

exhallskyblue · Jan 14, 2024

I’m no expert. But the amount of turnstiles down the away section may be an issue? The club shop takes up space as well as the match day ticket office. Therefore the only turnstiles are directly behind the goal, which would pose issues placing in the corner?

Flying Fokker · Jan 14, 2024

Plus the small question of coach parking, train access, public services etc.

Earlsdon-Loyal-Blue · Jan 14, 2024

Evo1883 said:
Serious question and probably one that Pete can put to the club at the next meeting , where is the best place to have away fans whilst giving more room for home fans ?

With the new clubshop being by the away end , which in my humble opinion is poor situated considering away fans are right there and home fans have to mingle through them to get there , shouldn't behind that goal be for home fans ?

Really tough one tbh

Block 13 - 17. But only if the corner blocks get priority access to move behind the goal.

moving away fans to the family stand would kill the atmosphere it has taken us 14 years to generate, unless singers corner move to blocks 24-28, which defeats the objective.

skybluecam · Jan 14, 2024

Moving them would feel wrong now, I'd just shove them right over into 6/7/8 and sell 10 onwards to home fans.

We can limit away capacity to 2,000 if we're regularly selling out for home fans.

exhallskyblue · Jan 14, 2024

This is an image from the weekend. There does appear to be shutters there?

pusbccfc · Jan 14, 2024

Will always be in the South Stand. Discussions have been had but no feasible options besides outrageous £ are spent.

WMP on twitter are being openly honest that they are struggling to deal with it all and a lot of issues seem to stem from the train station and moving fans across.

As we've all said on here 1000s of times. We've been to most away grounds in this country in the past 20 years and very few, if any, have a 100m fence pushing fast away from the stadium and into the path of each other.

Even at Millwall a few months back, fans walked out into each other once they'd left the stadium. Besides the rare brave idiot, most of the Tik Tok hooligans wouldn't dare cause trouble when mixing within fans as they'd be picked out instantly by a copper or become seriously hurt. However, if you have large groups of 100+ slowly building as they move down the fence, they get brave and aggressive and tension builds. This is what happened yesterday when Leicester fans were moved in their hundreds towards the station.

I personally saw no trouble yesterday and most would be the same. If you go on twitter, it seems like there were mass riots. Clearly not. There's always going to be an issue or two on a local derby with 30,000 fans.

pusbccfc · Jan 14, 2024

exhallskyblue said:
This is an image from the weekend. There does appear to be shutters there?
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There are but clearly the SAG/Police do not want fans entering turnstiles close to each other.

pusbccfc · Jan 14, 2024

hamertime said:
Where the family zone is as the sun is in your eyes most the time. 2500 max. No beer either, just water and bread.

Won't work because they won't want away fans entering where the casino and Anecdote is.

Sky Blue Harry H · Jan 14, 2024

exhallskyblue said:
This is an image from the weekend. There does appear to be shitters there
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Covcraig@bury · Jan 14, 2024

7,8,9,and 10 or 13,14,15. We should have both ends behind the goals and sides .

SBAndy · Jan 14, 2024

It’s almost the impossible question with facilities that have popped up since. Club Shop is in the area that the away fans currently are, so that doesn’t really work in my mind. Family area would cut the Anecdote off for many home fans. The other corner in the old CT stand would be where people head to from Dhillons. Needed a plan at the outset but we are where we are.

David O'Day · Jan 14, 2024

pusbccfc said:
Will always be in the South Stand. Discussions have been had but no feasible options besides outrageous £ are spent.

WMP on twitter are being openly honest that they are struggling to deal with it all and a lot of issues seem to stem from the train station and moving fans across.

As we've all said on here 1000s of times. We've been to most away grounds in this country in the past 20 years and very few, if any, have a 100m fence pushing fast away from the stadium and into the path of each other.

Even at Millwall a few months back, fans walked out into each other once they'd left the stadium. Besides the rare brave idiot, most of the Tik Tok hooligans wouldn't dare cause trouble when mixing within fans as they'd be picked out instantly by a copper or become seriously hurt. However, if you have large groups of 100+ slowly building as they move down the fence, they get brave and aggressive and tension builds. This is what happened yesterday when Leicester fans were moved in their hundreds towards the station.

I personally saw no trouble yesterday and most would be the same. If you go on twitter, it seems like there were mass riots. Clearly not. There's always going to be an issue or two on a local derby with 30,000 fans.

The police were their own worst enemies yesterday, before they game there was a group of Leicester fans by the fence near the station and they seemed to not realise they weren't city fans was they tried to move them down along and further down towards the turnstiles of the east stand.

We must get WMPs shittest cops as WMP can handle bigger crowds etc over at Villa etc no problem.

pusbccfc · Jan 14, 2024

SBAndy said:
It’s almost the impossible question with facilities that have popped up since. Club Shop is in the area that the away fans currently are, so that doesn’t really work in my mind. Family area would cut the Anecdote off for many home fans. The other corner in the old CT stand would be where people head to from Dhillons. Needed a plan at the outset but we are where we are.

Are we the worst behaved fans or can they one day just open it up?

We go to so many grounds and fans enter the stadium next to each other.

We'll be at Norwich next month where the turnstiles are next to the home end. Even at Sunderland, the turnstiles for the top tier are directly next to the home end.

David O'Day · Jan 14, 2024

pusbccfc said:
There are but clearly the SAG/Police do not want fans entering turnstiles close to each other.

They don't mind actually, the issue we are led to believe is the shutters are broken

pusbccfc · Jan 14, 2024

David O'Day said:
The police were their own worst enemies yesterday, before they game there was a group of Leicester fans by the fence near the station and they seemed to not realise they weren't city fans was they tried to move them down along and further down towards the turnstiles of the east stand.

We must get WMPs shittest cops as WMP can handle bigger crowds etc over at Villa etc no problem.

They are dreadful. The guy on the WMP twitter doesn't have a clue.

He's actually asking fans for ideas!

pusbccfc · Jan 14, 2024

David O'Day said:
They don't mind actually, the issue we are led to believe is the shutters are broken

Wouldn't explain why there's a 100m fence though or why the police and stewards won't even let people in wheelchairs go down the ramp to get towards the South Stand after the game.

Shutters need sorting as in the pic you can see it doesn't go the entire way across the concourse.

David O'Day · Jan 14, 2024

pusbccfc said:
They are dreadful. The guy on the WMP twitter doesn't have a clue.

He's actually asking fans for ideas!

it's simple but he really doesn't like the idea of holding the away fans back for 5 to 10 minutes in the car park and then moving when it is clear

yesterday walking their fans into loads of cov fans was madness

shmmeee · Jan 14, 2024

Brand new ground design: in a corner pushed round to the side if needed.

At the CBS: Blocks 6-9

David O'Day · Jan 14, 2024

pusbccfc said:
Wouldn't explain why there's a 100m fence though or why the police and stewards won't even let people in wheelchairs go down the ramp to get towards the South Stand after the game.

Shutters need sorting as in the pic you can see it doesn't go the entire way across the concourse.

they don't as they were in use against boro in the playoffs

the shutters you see aren' the segregation ones, the ones you see are saller crowd control ones design to if need to create kind of "rooms", if you look at the back of the picture there is another that only blocks off theother gap.

The main shutters are behind the picture taker

Alkhen · Jan 14, 2024

Having home fans behind both goals would be great.

I Also wish we could move the TV cameras over to the West Stand. Would free up a few seats in the East and mean our exceptional atmosphere gets shown off on the TV coverage.

skyblu3sk · Jan 14, 2024

Astute said:
With their seats pointing in the wrong direction.

And butt plugs screwed to each of them.

Flying Fokker · Jan 14, 2024

Alkhen said:
Having home fans behind both goals would be great.

I Also wish we could move the TV cameras over to the West Stand. Would free up a few seats in the East and mean our exceptional atmosphere gets shown off on the TV coverage.

Or at least one camera over there to do that.

TomRad85 · Jan 14, 2024

Alkhen said:
Having home fans behind both goals would be great.

I Also wish we could move the TV cameras over to the West Stand. Would free up a few seats in the East and mean our exceptional atmosphere gets shown off on the TV coverage.

Yes to both these things.

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