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Where do you think the stadium site in Coventry might be? (3 Viewers)

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  • Start date Nov 11, 2015
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shmmeee

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  • Nov 12, 2015
  • #71
duffer said:
Old Courtaulds site, Old Church Road? I'm not sure if there's something on it now, but I think it's big enough.

I have serious doubts about the veracity of the idea though, as others have said, why would the FL need to get involved if it's within the city?


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Thats Paragon Park. They're building a massive housing estate on it, phase 1 has started already.

Still say City Centre South. Just down the road from the Butts, next to the Ice Hockey. It could be a little sports quarter. And it's not like there isn't a ton of undeveloped land in the city centre they're having trouble shifting.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2015
  • #72
Also: the traffic on Foleshill Road is bad enough, it could never handle a match day. I can't park on my road at the best of times!

Same for the Butts, nothing like the infrastructure needed.

City centre or edge of town are the only options I can see.
 

Si80

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2015
  • #73
It definitely won't be on the land next to the Alan Higgs centre leading up to the London Rd
 
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SkyBlueZack

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2015
  • #74
Is that a cryptic clue?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 12, 2015
  • #75
SkyBlueZack said:
Is that a cryptic clue?
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I assume that is where Wasps are building...
 
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SkyBlueZack

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2015
  • #76
Thought the training centre was in the area not the city? It's all a bit like the hokey cokey
 

chiefdave

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  • Nov 12, 2015
  • #77
Gynnsthetonic said:
Bought hs my ticket from the Butts the other week, had a walk round as parked in earlsdon under the railway bridge and I was surprised how much room there is to build another 3 stands. It's easily capable of being a tight Highfield Rd type stadium holding 23000, the only snag would be car parking!
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Is the need for car parking and infrastructure a bit of a red herring? Its not like we had thousands of parking spaces and a motorway right up to HR. How many other grounds do we visit where you have to park in the street or in local businesses car parks.

For me the Butts is ideal. The issue of car parking is not a problem, pretty much every bus route goes into the city centre, its walkable from the train station and there's multi story car parks in town.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2015
  • #78
Si80 said:
It definitely won't be on the land next to the Alan Higgs centre leading up to the London Rd
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That would be ideal. More than one way in and out Allard way, Humber Road and London Road onto the A46 towards Warwick and going the other way A45 south, pretty much a green field site so less prep work of the site before building and would be classed as in fill so should be easier from the planning side of things.
 
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SkyBlueZack

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2015
  • #79
The butts retreat could be the new strikers bar
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 12, 2015
  • #80
skybluetony176 said:
That would be ideal. More than one way in and out Allard way, Humber Road and London Road onto the A46 towards Warwick and going the other way A45 south, pretty much a green field site so less prep work of the site before building and would be classed as in fill so should be easier from the planning side of things.
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Read his post history...
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2015
  • #81
chiefdave said:
Is the need for car parking and infrastructure a bit of a red herring? Its not like we had thousands of parking spaces and a motorway right up to HR. How many other grounds do we visit where you have to park in the street or in local businesses car parks.

For me the Butts is ideal. The issue of car parking is not a problem, pretty much every bus route goes into the city centre, its walkable from the train station and there's multi story car parks in town.
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You would think that a deal could be done with the butts college on parking, they have a sizable car park and I would imagine it sits empty at the weekends and evenings. Plus isn't there park and ride from the memorial park into town, or could there be?
 
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skybluesam66

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2015
  • #82
skybluetony176 said:
You would think that a deal could be done with the butts college on parking, they have a sizable car park and I would imagine it sits empty at the weekends and evenings. Plus isn't there park and ride from the memorial park into town, or could there be?
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is there still a college there - thought it was a travelodge now
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2015
  • #83
skybluetony176 said:
You would think that a deal could be done with the butts college on parking, they have a sizable car park and I would imagine it sits empty at the weekends and evenings. Plus isn't there park and ride from the memorial park into town, or could there be?
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Even if there isn't getting a park and ride up and running for matchdays isn't really going to be that hard.

Think it would be the ideal solution. Unfortunately I suspect us talking about it on here is the closest we will get.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 12, 2015
  • #84
skybluesam66 said:
is there still a college there - thought it was a travelodge now
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There is and I think an old peoples home behind it.
 

oldskyblue58

CCFC Finance Director
  • Nov 12, 2015
  • #85
Last I saw was that CRFC had a 100 year lease on the Butts stadium - the land owner being CCC. You might think some contact would have been made with the landowner by now.

Also put stands up on the three other sides will create parking issues both in reality and planning. For a start off the stands would be erected on the only existing parking on site. I think planning regs will require a minimum number of parking spaces, but also coach access/parking/turning.

How close can they build to the railway line?

It is going to require a big investment in infra structure in that area..... there is a "natural" choke point with the railway bridge for example and the building of stands will be close to the only road access. Park and ride schemes are fine so long as there is space to stop at the destination. One of the biggest planning worries might be the effect of the traffic on match days on the other traffic flows through the city centre - On busy match days I think you could easily end up with gridlock

With all that going on could CRFC still play there - would the site be safe? considering they would have to be working across the only access points?

Not to mention objections by the local residents and those in Earlsdon for example
 
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hill83

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  • Nov 12, 2015
  • #86
Nick said:
There is and I think an old peoples home behind it.
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It's more than an old peoples home, it's a huge 10 story megatropolis. It's fucking huge.
 

I_Saw_Shaw_Score

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2015
  • #87
Will never be the Butts.
 
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oldfiver

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2015
  • #88
oldskyblue58 said:
Last I saw was that CRFC had a 100 year lease on the Butts stadium - the land owner being CCC. You might think some contact would have been made with the landowner by now.

Also put stands up on the three other sides will create parking issues both in reality and planning. For a start off the stands would be erected on the only existing parking on site. I think planning regs will require a minimum number of parking spaces, but also coach access/parking/turning.

How close can they build to the railway line?

It is going to require a big investment in infra structure in that area..... there is a "natural" choke point with the railway bridge for example and the building of stands will be close to the only road access. Park and ride schemes are fine so long as there is space to stop at the destination. One of the biggest planning worries might be the effect of the traffic on match days on the other traffic flows through the city centre - On busy match days I think you could easily end up with gridlock

With all that going on could CRFC still play there - would the site be safe? considering they would have to be working across the only access points?

Not to mention objections by the local residents and those in Earlsdon for example
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Blimey

You are a versatile chap -town planner as well. More in that than accountancy I bet
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2015
  • #89
hill83 said:
It's more than an old peoples home, it's a huge 10 story megatropolis. It's fucking huge.
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I can't wait to retire, the place looks awesome. Is a bit MegaCity1 though.

Guys, it really won't be the Butts, just not going to happen.
 

Covstu

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2015
  • #90
A half finished stadium somewhere in Northampton......
 

GaryJones

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2015
  • #91
Ive heard the new stadium is "On Cloud Cuckoo Land"
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2015
  • #92
skybluesam66 said:
is there still a college there - thought it was a travelodge now
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Is it? Shows how long it is since I've been to that part of Coventry
 
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oldfiver

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2015
  • #93
GaryJones said:
Ive heard the new stadium is "On Cloud Cuckoo Land"
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That is in city centre - has the Establishment Bar there now in the old law courts
 

Johnnythespider

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2015
  • #94
skybluetony176 said:
Is it? Shows how long it is since I've been to that part of Coventry
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If I'm being picky it's a premier Inn. You get a much better nights sleep there
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2015
  • #95
skybluetony176 said:
Is it? Shows how long it is since I've been to that part of Coventry
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Probably about the same length of time as you've been to the Ricoh.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2015
  • #96
Grendel said:
Probably about the same length of time as you've been to the Ricoh.
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Predicktable if nothing else.
 

Johnnythespider

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2015
  • #97
Jack Griffin said:
Here is my guess, Walsgrave, I thinbk the large Tesco store is not terribly profitable and the bowling alley possibly even less so, so a stadium and some housing might replace those sites. Also the road links are good and in place and there are several established hotels nearby.
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Ia that big brown field between the A46 and the M69 in Coventry ?
 

bringbackrattles

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2015
  • #98
Johnnythespider said:
Ia that big brown field between the A46 and the M69 in Coventry ?
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Do you remember the time when they were going to build a new national stadium away from Wembley and London ? Well one of the favourite places mentioned was Walsgrave Triangle because it is central etc and easy for fans to get to all over the country. But in the end they decided to stay put,and as I used to live in Walsgrave I had visions of just strolling up to watch England play there,but London won in the end yet again !
 
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oldfiver

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2015
  • #99
Johnnythespider said:
Ia that big brown field between the A46 and the M69 in Coventry ?
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Is it part of the WASPS deal?
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2015
  • #100
I've mentioned before that Parkside was in the running back in the 90s. Of course the land there has subsequently been developed. Would have much preferred it there, much closer to the club's traditional home(s).
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2015
  • #101
oldfiver said:
Is it part of the WASPS deal?
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Isn't that the site of the new black cab factory?

Quite appropriate for Wasps, London Taxis.
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2015
  • #102
Confirmed as the Coventry area. Cracking start by the new bloke
 
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SimonGilbert

Telegraph Tea Boy
  • Nov 12, 2015
  • #103
hill83 said:
Confirmed as the Coventry area. Cracking start by the new bloke
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Happy to clarify this. A simple mistake by new MD and not a deliberate attempt to mislead. Said with best intentions I'm sure.

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/coventry-city-fc-not-identified-10434774
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2015
  • #104
hill83 said:
Confirmed as the Coventry area.
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If I'm honest I'm open to something in the Coventry area within reason. Want a few pubs nearby and decent access by public transport.
 
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oldfiver

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2015
  • #105
SimonGilbert said:
Happy to clarify this. A simple mistake by new MD and not a deliberate attempt to mislead. Said with best intentions I'm sure.

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/coventry-city-fc-not-identified-10434774
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Well done Simon !
 
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