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Sky Blue Kid

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  • Sep 18, 2013
  • #211
@ Moff......Why didn't you quote ALL of what was said in my post?.My point was, Someone "Having a go" at the group not doing enough yet other fans going into Sixfields to watch the game(As is their right) and doing Fuck all....That attitude, imho is, "I cba but will let you do all the work to get Coventry back in the City"
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 18, 2013
  • #212
At least fans going into Sixfields are contributing to the club - and because of numbers not helping to keep it there.

I, and those on the hill, aren't contributing a bean to the club we support.

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italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 18, 2013
  • #213
torchomatic said:
At least fans going into Sixfields are contributing to the club - and because of numbers not helping to keep.

I, and those on the hill, aren't contributing a bean to the club we support.

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Not in money terms.
 
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mrbluesky87

New Member
  • Sep 18, 2013
  • #214
torchomatic said:
At least fans going into Sixfields are contributing to the club - and because of numbers not helping to keep.

I, and those on the hill, aren't contributing a bean to the club we support.

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Ok Torch, agreed, but what are those going in to Sixfields doing to help get the club playing back at the Ricoh? I wont ever stand on the hill but the ones that do believe/are bringing a bit coverage to our cause. Im afraid contributing to the club with such low gates is not going to do anything it would appear either way. There are lot of people knocking those that are protesting yet I do not see any contructive ideas.
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 18, 2013
  • #215
Sky Blue Kid said:
@ Moff......Why didn't you quote ALL of what was said in my post?.My point was, Someone "Having a go" at the group not doing enough yet other fans going into Sixfields to watch the game(As is their right) and doing Fuck all....That attitude, imho is, "I cba but will let you do all the work to get Coventry back in the City"
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Surely their is discontent in form of chants and banners, even if it's only when the players are off the pitch ?
If the trust supplied 8 shirts, would 8 people not sit in a line in the empty seats opposite the cameras. S_I_S_U__O_U_T ?
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 18, 2013
  • #216
mrbluesky87 said:
Ok Torch, agreed, but what are those going in to Sixfields doing to help get the club playing back at the Ricoh? I wont ever stand on the hill but the ones that do believe/are bringing a bit coverage to our cause. Im afraid contributing to the club with such low gates is not going to do anything it would appear either way. There are lot of people knocking those that are protesting yet I do not see any contructive ideas.
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I honestly don't think the low number of fans going in to Sixfields will make the slightest difference in potential timescales of retrning to the Ricoh. If there were 7K every game then it might be a different story, but its not.

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mrbluesky87

New Member
  • Sep 18, 2013
  • #217
torchomatic said:
I honestly don't think the low number of fans going in to Sixfields will make the slightest difference in potential timescales of retrning to the Ricoh. If there were 7K every game then it might be a different story, but its not.

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How would having 7k help? Surely that would suggest the fans are not bothered about being moved and therefore they could take as long as they want in regards to moving back to the City. Surely playing in front of no fans would be better in getting the club back to the Ricoh, it makes a bigger statement. The chances of that happening however appear to be slim.
 

Mary_Mungo_Midge

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 18, 2013
  • #218
Nick said:
Remind us again of the company who charged us stupid amounts of rent with no income and refused to lower it and only started to budge slightly when it looked like the club were moving out?
The rent had, and has nothing to do with it. The 'excessive rent' was only equivalent to the value squandered on the wages of players who, for seasons, have added little to the stock of the club, namely such as Wood, McSheffrey and/or Bell. Players SISU gave contracts to. Or pay-offs for managers they appointed.

Notwithstanding this, the entire rent sums accrued in SISU's entire 5 years at the club were less than 10% of the overall debt level claimed whilst entering administration.

When will you understand; SISU have made a gamble with CCFC that has gone terribly wrong? They want out, and they want a return. The only thing that can sugar-coat their exit strategy is the Ricoh; an asset they didn't pay for. They need another party's asset to get them the pay off they need.

The rent; had it been £1.2m or £0.2m made no different whatsoever.

It was excessive, yes. But it's irrelevant to SISU's strategy. It's just their excuse for the inexcusable. For God's sake wake up and recognize that fact
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Sky Blue Kid

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 18, 2013
  • #219
No I won't delete my account, so you'll have to ban me. There are others on this forum who are nothing but sarcastic WUM's.(Grenduffy, summerisle,Torchy, covcity4life, to name but a few) People like these, are the reason the CET forum was closed down a couple of years ago, and GMK is going the same way.(None of which I've been a member, but used to read posts) Decent, honest posters are going to be driven from this forum. ie- Astute, PWKH to name but two. Come on Nick "Do your worst"
 

blueflint

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 18, 2013
  • #220
Nick said:
I think PWKH last said that SISU had moved on...
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you close the thread on wheres SISU yet this one runs cant see the point in either myself
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 18, 2013
  • #221
blueflint said:
you close the thread on wheres SISU yet this one runs cant see the point in either myself
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This one at least has a valid discussion from all sides which is why it has stayed.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 18, 2013
  • #222
Sky Blue Kid said:
No I won't delete my account, so you'll have to ban me. There are others on this forum who are nothing but sarcastic WUM's.(Grenduffy, summerisle,Torchy, covcity4life, to name but a few) People like these, are the reason the CET forum was closed down a couple of years ago, and GMK is going the same way.(None of which I've been a member, but used to read posts) Decent, honest posters are going to be driven from this forum. ie- Astute, PWKH to name but two. Come on Nick "Do your worst"
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Do you mean people who have different opinions to you? Does it tell you something about yourself if it is ALL forums and you?
 
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thaiskyblue

New Member
  • Sep 18, 2013
  • #223
Covstu said:
i bloody hope they get the stadium for next to nothing then we can all go back to Cov!! FFS!
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sisu are scum why should they get something for nothing. do you ?
 

Covstu

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 18, 2013
  • #224
Clearly 'the kid' is a little sore because you didnt give him the technical support he needed Nick! This thread was actually a very interesting debate between fans about their views on the subject, i dotn agree with Spion, astute etc but i respect their views all the same. The previous threads were turning into attacks at people who think or act differently to the 'majority' albeit the majorities actions are to do nothing at all about the situation.
 

Covstu

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 18, 2013
  • #225
thaiskyblue said:
sisu are scum why should they get something for nothing. do you ?
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I didnt say nothing did I? for me the only exit strategy for SISU is to get the ground and then sell it off for a profit. They will not sell at a massive loss so if they get the ground for next to nothing which was what the earlier poster was alluding to then i have no issue with that, it solves a problem for all concerned and gets us back in Coventry.

Even with your hatred for SISU, you couldnt disagree that this is a good solution??
 

blueflint

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 18, 2013
  • #226
Nick said:
This one at least has a valid discussion from all sides which is why it has stayed.
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cant see that slagging other posters off is valid the argument is faulty the post should be closed you may note i have stopped slagging other posters so should we all
 
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mrbluesky87

New Member
  • Sep 18, 2013
  • #227
thaiskyblue said:
sisu are scum why should they get something for nothing. do you ?
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I have to agree, I never want SISU/OTIUM getting the stadium, the stadium belongs to the City of Coventry as multi event venue and finally brought a little prosperity to the North side of the City. On the other hand I do agree that ACL cannot charge such high rent. Now, ACL have said they can live without the football club in regards to revenue streams thus ACL should charge as little rent as possible 100k/50k who cares and let the club have 100% matchday revenue. The City as a whole (thus the council) will benefit more from having the club in Coventry than not.
 

blueflint

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 18, 2013
  • #228
Covstu said:
I didnt say nothing did I? for me the only exit strategy for SISU is to get the ground and then sell it off for a profit. They will not sell at a massive loss so if they get the ground for next to nothing which was what the earlier poster was alluding to then i have no issue with that, it solves a problem for all concerned and gets us back in Coventry.

Even with your hatred for SISU, you couldnt disagree that this is a good solution??
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think about the coventry taxpayer they should get value for money SISU pay the market price end of
 

Covstu

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 18, 2013
  • #229
blueflint said:
think about the coventry taxpayer they should get value for money SISU pay the market price end of
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and if the opinion of the full value is vastly different, then what? Oh the Ricoh sits there doing frig all, what are the council going to do? Give ACL more cash? Taxpayers money well spent!
 

Sky Blue Kid

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 18, 2013
  • #230
Nick...Do you mean people who have different opinions to you? Does it tell you something about yourself if it is ALL forums and you?///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////You let sarcastic arseholes get away with "Blue Murder" on this forum. I've got nothing against posters having another opinion to mine, and I welcome healthy debate, however, 90% of what posters like Grenduffy, Torchy, covcity4life, and summerisle have to say is "Worthless, sarcastic, personal attacks of shite. summerisle started on Astute with his sarcastic shit for no reason! Has anything been done about that???? My guess is "Fuck all" Get your priorities right or this BIG forum will dwindle to nothing.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 18, 2013
  • #231
blueflint said:
think about the coventry taxpayer they should get value for money SISU pay the market price end of
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Will the tax payer get a % then?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 18, 2013
  • #232
blueflint said:
cant see that slagging other posters off is valid the argument is faulty the post should be closed you may note i have stopped slagging other posters so should we all
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Read through the posts, some people manage to type more than just sisu out or acl out and manage to have a debate?
 

Covstu

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 18, 2013
  • #233
Sky Blue Kid said:
Nick...Do you mean people who have different opinions to you? Does it tell you something about yourself if it is ALL forums and you?///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////You let sarcastic arseholes get away with "Blue Murder" on this forum. I've got nothing against posters having another opinion to mine, and I welcome healthy debate, however, 90% of what posters like Grenduffy, Torchy, covcity4life, and summerisle have to say is "Worthless, sarcastic, personal attacks of shite. summerisle started on Astute with his sarcastic shit for no reason! Has anything been done about that???? My guess is "Fuck all" Get your priorities right or this BIG forum will dwindle to nothing.
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I thought you didnt swear??? >>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 
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thaiskyblue

New Member
  • Sep 18, 2013
  • #234
Covstu said:
I didnt say nothing did I? for me the only exit strategy for SISU is to get the ground and then sell it off for a profit. They will not sell at a massive loss so if they get the ground for next to nothing which was what the earlier poster was alluding to then i have no issue with that, it solves a problem for all concerned and gets us back in Coventry.

Even with your hatred for SISU, you couldnt disagree that this is a good solution??
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i hear you and i would agree if it meant the end of sisu, it's just got to the point where even hearing their name makes me angry. Sorry covstu, you make a good point .
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 18, 2013
  • #235
Sky Blue Kid said:
Nick...Do you mean people who have different opinions to you? Does it tell you something about yourself if it is ALL forums and you?///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////You let sarcastic arseholes get away with "Blue Murder" on this forum. I've got nothing against posters having another opinion to mine, and I welcome healthy debate, however, 90% of what posters like Grenduffy, Torchy, covcity4life, and summerisle have to say is "Worthless, sarcastic, personal attacks of shite. summerisle started on Astute with his sarcastic shit for no reason! Has anything been done about that???? My guess is "Fuck all" Get your priorities right or this BIG forum will dwindle to nothing.
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I also let people come on and promote sisu out stuff? How about you shut up your moaning or do one? If you have a problem then pm me, simple.

Instead of just moaning about all the forums maybe it is you who is the problem. I don't put my own time and money in to deal with people like you who just want to moan.
 

covmark

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 18, 2013
  • #236
mrbluesky87 said:
I have to agree, I never want SISU/OTIUM getting the stadium, the stadium belongs to the City of Coventry as multi event venue and finally brought a little prosperity to the North side of the City. On the other hand I do agree that ACL cannot charge such high rent. Now, ACL have said they can live without the football club in regards to revenue streams thus ACL should charge as little rent as possible 100k/50k who cares and let the club have 100% matchday revenue. The City as a whole (thus the council) will benefit more from having the club in Coventry than not.
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are you really bothered about the Ricoh without ccfc there, I couldn't care if it rotted away. I don't understand this "it belongs to the city of Coventry" or "its a key Coventry asset". Without a football club it's a pointless building.
 

Sky Blue Kid

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 18, 2013
  • #237
Do you mean people who have different opinions to you? Does it tell you something about yourself if it is ALL forums and you?////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Which part of (None of which I've been a member, but used to read posts) Don't you understand Nick???
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 18, 2013
  • #238
Sky Blue Kid said:
Do you mean people who have different opinions to you? Does it tell you something about yourself if it is ALL forums and you?////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Which part of (None of which I've been a member, but used to read posts) Don't you understand Nick???
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Pm me if you have an issue... don't you understand that?
 

Covstu

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 18, 2013
  • #239
Nick said:
Pm me if you have an issue... don't you understand that?
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He does his forward slash button has worn out!!
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 18, 2013
  • #240
How is the ricoh a community asset?? I asked about a birthday party for 25 future ccfc fans there and they wanted hundreds for a room and a tenner reach for nuggets and chips....
 
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mrbluesky87

New Member
  • Sep 18, 2013
  • #241
covmark said:
are you really bothered about the Ricoh without ccfc there, I couldn't care if it rotted away. I don't understand this "it belongs to the city of Coventry" or "its a key Coventry asset". Without a football club it's a pointless building.
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I didnt say that, I agree without a football club its a little pointless hence it was built for Coventry City, our new home thus I do not need another ground built. I do not however want SISU to own it, the ground benefits more people than just the football club or its fans, thats a fact, you might not have any other interest in it but others do. Also I wouldnt just hand the ground to any new owner on a plate, prove that they have the best interests of the club, fans and the wider community and unfortunately SISU have yet to do that.
 

covmark

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 18, 2013
  • #242
mrbluesky87 said:
I didnt say that, I agree without a football club its a little pointless hence it was built for Coventry City, our new home thus I do not need another ground built. I do not however want SISU to own it, the ground benefits more people than just the football club or its fans, thats a fact, you might not have any other interest in it but others do. Also I wouldnt just hand the ground to any new owner on a plate, prove that they have the best interests of the club, fans and the wider community and unfortunately SISU have yet to do that.
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as someone alluded to earlier I think the only way we'll get rid of sisu is for them to get the Ricoh and sell us as the whole package. Without the ground ccfc is pretty much worth diddly squat. Tbh I think we'd struggle to find an owner who isn't in it for themselves and are willing to throw money at ccfc for the love of football.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 18, 2013
  • #243
covmark said:
as someone alluded to earlier I think the only way we'll get rid of sisu is for them to get the Ricoh and sell us as the whole package. Without the ground ccfc is pretty much worth diddly squat. Tbh I think we'd struggle to find an owner who isn't in it for themselves and are willing to throw money at ccfc for the love of football.
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You're wrong, Preston Haskell has got a CCFC tattoo such is his love for the club. The Ricoh is only a passing interest. It's always been CCFC for him, he has never looked at anybody else.
 

covmark

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 18, 2013
  • #244
fernandopartridge said:
You're wrong, Preston Haskell has got a CCFC tattoo such is his love for the club. The Ricoh is only a passing interest. It's always been CCFC for him, he has never looked at anybody else.
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who told you this, was it our gaz and Mr Coventry?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 18, 2013
  • #245
covmark said:
who told you this, was it our gaz and Mr Coventry?
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His dad was a big fan didn't you know? He spent a night here in the ball hill hotel once and wandered into Highfield road and was hooked. Andy spring was his favourite player.
 
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