Whats the odds.... (1 Viewer)

christonabike · Apr 10, 2016

On TM saying to Anderson and Sisu fook off Im going to the Villa. He clearly has not got the ability to spend fook all and continue to build and find gems within the dross of lower leagues and decent young players either say no Im off or Maddison etc are sold before the end of the season.
He doesnt need this shit so dont be suprised if he gets a call and has a few quid to spend up the road. We continue to try and run on a shoe string and all this bollocks about 5th best budget cuts nothing. We were in a fine position at Christmas and a few million could of kept us in the fight. We could have Villa, Wolves and Forest etc next year and would more than get that back on gate revenue but no lets stay as we are and continue to piss in the wind again in true fashion.

ccfctommy · Apr 10, 2016

What is the big deal with Mowbray? Why would Villa hire him? I would love it if he said that to Anderson!

ccfctommy · Apr 10, 2016

And to answer your question......40/1!

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/aston-villa/next-permanent-manager

Nick · Apr 10, 2016

ccfctommy said:
What is the big deal with Mowbray? Why would Villa hire him? I would love it if he said that to Anderson!

That's the thing, he isn't in a position to do that. People still talking like he's a tactical genius and we have won every game.

christonabike · Apr 10, 2016

Learner wants to spend a minimum and if he grabbed TM he has experience etc. Lets see.

Nick · Apr 10, 2016

christonabike said:
Learner wants to spend a minimum and if he grabbed TM he has experience etc. Lets see.

There are lots of managers with experience who would be in front of him in the queue.

Paxman II · Apr 10, 2016

Had he still been in contention at the play off stage yes but now no. He has to prove he can repair what went wrong.

Hadji10 · Apr 10, 2016

Why on earth would Villa appoint Mowbray?

Hadji10 · Apr 10, 2016

Spend a few million quid? Are you fucking insane? What happened the last time we spent money we didn't have, oh yeah we were nearly liquidated.

There was fuck all wrong with the squad around Christmas, competition for places in every area of the field and everyone kept saying its one of, if not the best squad in the league. Mowbray is the sole reason we are lying in the bottom half now, his constant changes to the team, him bringing In utter shite like Hunt, Ramage and Henderson when they weren't needed just completely disrupted what looked like a good season for us.

ccfcway · Apr 10, 2016

christonabike said:
He doesnt need this shit .

well, he shouldn't have put us in it then !

Sick Boy · Apr 10, 2016

Villa will be looking to bounce back immediately. Why would they even consider hiring Mowbray?

christonabike · Apr 10, 2016

Fook me when he kept us up last season he was a hero now everyman and his dog think he is shit. FFS

Hadji10 · Apr 10, 2016

christonabike said:
Fook me when he kept us up last season he was a hero now everyman and his dog think he is shit. FFS

Kept us up?? He took us over when we were 18th, he took us further into the shit and had us 20 mins from relegation.

Terry Gibson's perm · Apr 10, 2016

Nigel Pearson will get the villa job and I wouldn't be surprised if they got promoted next year

skybluegod · Apr 10, 2016

Hadji10 said:
Spend a few million quid? Are you fucking insane? What happened the last time we spent money we didn't have, oh yeah we were nearly liquidated.

There was fuck all wrong with the squad around Christmas, competition for places in every area of the field and everyone kept saying its one of, if not the best squad in the league. Mowbray is the sole reason we are lying in the bottom half now, his constant changes to the team, him bringing In utter shite like Hunt, Ramage and Henderson when they weren't needed just completely disrupted what looked like a good season for us.

There was a lot wrong with the squad around Christmas, with only 4 fit defenders? Two of them being phillips and Haynes?

Sick Boy · Apr 10, 2016

Terry Gibson's perm said:
Nigel Pearson will get the villa job and I wouldn't be surprised if they got promoted next year

Would love Pearson here. If only he had got the job at Cov rather than Coleman, hoe different things could have been. Still, the fans were outraged at the thought of the Newcastle number 2 getting, and got their man Coleman.

Hadji10 · Apr 10, 2016

skybluegod said:
There was a lot wrong with the squad around Christmas, with only 4 fit defenders? Two of them being phillips and Haynes?

They weren't long term injuries though.

Terry Gibson's perm · Apr 10, 2016

Sick Boy said:
Would love Pearson heree. If only he had got the job at Cov rather than Coleman, hoe different things could have been. Still, the fans were outraged at the thought of the Newcastle number 2 getting, and got their man Coleman.

As long as he doesn't want to sign his son

Hobo · Apr 10, 2016

Well we are playing like Villa at the moment. But still a ridiculous hypothetical question.

skybluegod · Apr 10, 2016

Hadji10 said:
They weren't long term injuries though.

Martin 8 weeks
Lorentzson 8 weeks
Reda and turner end of season
Willis only just returning to fitness

Would say they were all long term injuries in defence

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stupot07 · Apr 10, 2016

skybluegod said:
Martin 8 weeks
Lorentzson 8 weeks
Reda and turner end of season
Willis only just returning to fitness

Would say they were all long term injuries in defence

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Reda was always going to get injured, he hasn't managed half a season in 6-7 years

And turner was going be recalled anyway.

The only unfortunate defensive injuries was Martin and Willis

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Hadji10 · Apr 10, 2016

Imagine if we gave Reda a new deal?

skybluegod · Apr 10, 2016

stupot07 said:
Reda was always going to get injured, he hasn't managed half a season in 6-7 years

And turner was going be recalled anyway.

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Doesn't mean we had a good squad does it? And nobody could have predicted reda's injury .
Turner was due to have another 3/4 matches with us though? And we could have possibly extended the loan

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stupot07 · Apr 10, 2016

skybluegod said:
Doesn't mean we had a good squad does it? And nobody could have predicted reda's injury .
Turner was due to have another 3/4 matches with us though? And we could have possibly extended the loan

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No Sean Morrison went off injured in Cardiff's game (Friday night match) and Slade was considering a recall for Turner who then got injured the very next day. I think its safe to assume he would have been recalled had he not got injured. Turner had only ever come to get fit.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/.../cardiff-city-stalwart-sean-morrison-10625859

People are pointing at the defensive injuries as a reason for us falling like a stone, but the truth is we're not letting anymore goals (1.13 per game) in as we were in the first 18 games (1.06 per game) when we were top of the league, its creating and scoring goals that has been the issue (ave 2 goals per game in the first 18, vs ave 1 goal per game in the last 23)

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skybluegod · Apr 10, 2016

stupot07 said:
No Sean Morrison went off injured in Cardiff's game (Friday night match) and Slade was considering a recall for Turner who then got injured the very next day. I think its safe to assume he would have been recalled had he not got injured. Turner had only ever come to get fit.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/.../cardiff-city-stalwart-sean-morrison-10625859

People are pointing at the defensive injuries as a reason for us falling like a stone, but the truth is we're not letting anymore goals (1.13 per game) in as we were in the first 18 games (1.06 per game) when we were top of the league, its creating and scoring goals that has been the issue (ave 2 goals per game in the first 18, vs ave 1 goal per game in the last 23)

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Fair enough, didn't see Morrison had got injured at the time. But that's still only 1/5 of the injuries.
Well I think its more the fact that we had to bring in players to fill in, instead of boosting the attack in january, in order to give Armstrong a rest and take some of the burden off

stupot07 · Apr 10, 2016

skybluegod said:
Fair enough, didn't see Morrison had got injured at the time. But that's still only 1/5 of the injuries.
Well I think its more the fact that we had to bring in players to fill in, instead of boosting the attack in january, in order to give Armstrong a rest and take some of the burden off

Whilst that's a valid point, maddison coming back was supposed to be like a new signing (yes hasn't worked out that way), he also could have sent bigi back to free up another loan slot - he'd signed Rose after all, then the hunt signing is just odd, and Henderson seems to have been a waste too. You factor in those 3 (and ramage) then he would have wages and a loan space to bring in another striker. Some of this has been his choice.

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skybluegod · Apr 10, 2016

stupot07 said:
Whilst that's a valid point, maddison coming back was supposed to be like a new signing (yes hasn't worked out that way), he also could have sent bigi back to free up another loan slot - he'd signed Rose after all, then the hunt signing is just odd, and Henderson seems to have been a waste too. You factor in those 3 (and ramage) then he would have wages and a loan space to bring in another striker. Some of this has been his choice.

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Well not necessarily, I think Ramage was pure desperation. While we would still have had 5 loans (Cargill included). Don't think the Maddison argument goes, as he was unproven at this level still even with all his ricks?
Henderson and Hunt i agree, but maybe we were limited in our options? We couldn't bring in any loans, and i personally don't know any better free signings?

Sky Blue Kid · Apr 11, 2016

Hadji10 said:
Imagine if we gave Reda a new deal?

No thanks.

Captain Dart · Apr 11, 2016

skybluegod said:
Doesn't mean we had a good squad does it? And nobody could have predicted reda's injury .
Turner was due to have another 3/4 matches with us though? And we could have possibly extended the loan

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Really!!!!!

skybluegod · Apr 11, 2016

Captain Dart said:
Really!!!!!

You could have predicted that he was going to snap the tendon that connects the muscle to bone could you?
What's the lottery numbers?

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skybluegod · Apr 11, 2016

Sky Blue Kid said:
No thanks.

Believe TM said at the 'An evening with Tony Mowbray' event that he is going to offer him a pay as you play

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Captain Dart · Apr 11, 2016

skybluegod said:
You could have predicted that he was going to snap the tendon that connects the muscle to bone could you?
What's the lottery numbers?

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I think we could all predict Reda would get injured, not the precise injury. I was against signing him on again but got swayed by TM's arguments,

TM reckoned he could 'wrap him in cotton wool' and get a good season out of him, well he was wrong, he has to look elsewhere, Reda will not deliver more than a 1/2 season.

skybluegod · Apr 11, 2016

Captain Dart said:
I think we could all predict Reda would get injured, not the precise injury. I was against signing him on again but got swayed by TM's arguments,

TM reckoned he could 'wrap him in cotton wool' and get a good season out of him, well he was wrong, he has to look elsewhere, Reda will not deliver more than a 1/2 season.

Yes I expected a muscle strain not what he got which was just unlucky, it could have happened to any player.
I'm not saying to resign him but I don't think Its a good argument against TM went it was pure bad luck

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Skyblueweeman · Apr 11, 2016

christonabike said:
On TM saying to Anderson and Sisu fook off Im going to the Villa. He clearly has not got the ability to spend fook all and continue to build and find gems within the dross of lower leagues and decent young players either say no Im off or Maddison etc are sold before the end of the season.
He doesnt need this shit so dont be suprised if he gets a call and has a few quid to spend up the road. We continue to try and run on a shoe string and all this bollocks about 5th best budget cuts nothing. We were in a fine position at Christmas and a few million could of kept us in the fight. We could have Villa, Wolves and Forest etc next year and would more than get that back on gate revenue but no lets stay as we are and continue to piss in the wind again in true fashion.

As easy as that eh?! Damn it...if only we could've magic'ed up £3m....

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