What's the minimum acreage for a new stadium? (1 Viewer)

Otis · Jan 20, 2017

And what is the acreage of the Butts, anyone know?

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Jan 20, 2017

Not sure on parameters, but here's a picture:

Definitely room for substantial expansion if it was done smartly.

Plan:

1) Get SISU out.
2) Make friends with CRFC again.
3) Turn that into a 25,000.
4) Go to The Winchester and wait for it all to blow over.

Joy Division · Jan 20, 2017

Including the car park the Butts is about 5 acres.

SkyBlueScottie · Jan 20, 2017

Butts Park Arena is new home

Probably all in this thread

Joy Division · Jan 20, 2017

This is an easy way of checking Google Maps Area Calculator Tool

Otis · Jan 20, 2017

Right, well the reason I ask has nothing to do with the Butts, other than as a comparison.

I mentioned this piece of land before. It is next door to the fire station on Radford Road. Used to be a British Gas place if I recall correctly. Between the Holyhead Road and Radford Road junctions of the ring road. Same side of the road as the fire station, so sort of opposite Wickes.

The land is now up for sale. Sign up today. 5.52 acres.

Nick · Jan 20, 2017

Before anybody starts, Im by no means saying these places will be 100% where a stadium is. I am just randomly using that tool.

By J2 of the M6

There's so much empty land down the side of the A46 towards TGIs too.

Nick · Jan 20, 2017

Otis said:
Right, well the reason I ask has nothing to do with the Butts, other than as a comparison.

I mentioned this piece of land before. It is next door to the fire station on Radford Road. Used to be a British Gas place if I recall correctly. Between the Holyhead Road and Radford Road junctions of the ring road. Same side of the road as the fire station, so sort of opposite Wickes.

The land is now up for sale. Sign up today. 5.52 acres.

Just looked at that space, the old Mario building?

albatross · Jan 20, 2017

just a FYI Aberdeen have submitted plans for a 20,000 seater stadium and attached academy / training total cost is £40m with about £10m seemingly allocated on the training facilities.

Plans in for £40m Aberdeen FC stadium | Construction Enquirer

Given that its a clear site n that its not in somewhere like the Butts the construction costs will be less plus I would assume that land prices would certainly be less in Aberdeen as the housing pressures are not as great (I do know its an oil area).

So CCFC / SISU or whoever will be most likely looking at the sharp end of £30m + for a similar arrangement. Mr Fisher better start saving his pocket money.

Otis · Jan 20, 2017

Nick said:
Just looked at that space, the old Mario building?

Mario? Don't remember that.

Used to City Factors I think.

Otis · Jan 20, 2017

Nick said:
Before anybody starts, Im by no means saying these places will be 100% where a stadium is. I am just randomly using that tool.

That's what Joy says about Tim Fisher.

Nick · Jan 20, 2017

Otis said:
Mario? Don't remember that.

Used to City Factors I think.

Yeah, it was white with weird cladding like something off a video game?

MusicDating · Jan 20, 2017

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Not sure on parameters, but here's a picture:

Definitely room for substantial expansion if it was done smartly.

View attachment 6328

Plan:

1) Get SISU out.
2) Make friends with CRFC again.
3) Turn that into a 25,000.
4) Go to The Winchester and wait for it all to blow over.

Deserves a like for the Winchester comment :happy:

Deleted member 5849 · Jan 20, 2017

albatross said:
just a FYI Aberdeen have submitted plans for a 20,000 seater stadium and attached academy / training total cost is £40m with about £10m seemingly allocated on the training facilities.

Plans in for £40m Aberdeen FC stadium | Construction Enquirer

If that's when the architects dress it up to look at its best, just how dull will it look when built!

skybluesam66 · Jan 20, 2017

we could play "Wembley" then you only need 1 goal
and with Sisu arranging the destruction of our fan base, maybe a bench to watch for anybody left
so basically any space about 20m square

chiefdave · Jan 20, 2017

Otis said:
Right, well the reason I ask has nothing to do with the Butts, other than as a comparison.

I mentioned this piece of land before. It is next door to the fire station on Radford Road. Used to be a British Gas place if I recall correctly. Between the Holyhead Road and Radford Road junctions of the ring road. Same side of the road as the fire station, so sort of opposite Wickes.

The land is now up for sale. Sign up today. 5.52 acres.

Would be tricky due to the shape of the site rather than the total size. I have a feeling that there's something on site that needs to stay there as well.

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Jan 20, 2017

Otis said:
Right, well the reason I ask has nothing to do with the Butts, other than as a comparison.

I mentioned this piece of land before. It is next door to the fire station on Radford Road. Used to be a British Gas place if I recall correctly. Between the Holyhead Road and Radford Road junctions of the ring road. Same side of the road as the fire station, so sort of opposite Wickes.

The land is now up for sale. Sign up today. 5.52 acres.

That's it, isn't it?

chiefdave · Jan 20, 2017

Nick said:
By J2 of the M6

Always thought that would be a decent location.

The uni is a possibility if you have a decent traffic management plan.

Otis · Jan 20, 2017

Deleted member 5849 said:
If that's when the architects dress it up to look at its best, just how dull will it look when built!

sky blue john · Jan 20, 2017

Fits on the dining room table no bother !

robbiethemole · Jan 20, 2017

Fisher always said minimum 60 acres

stevefloyd · Jan 20, 2017

And you believe him?????????????

shy_tall_knight · Jan 20, 2017

Thats a good shout for a potential new ground - not sure what's happening to the old fire station plot but proximity to city centre and railway station is great could help regenerate the canal basin also

Brylowes · Jan 20, 2017

shy_tall_knight said:
Thats a good shout for a potential new ground - not sure what's happening to the old fire station plot but proximity to city centre and railway station is great could help regenerate the canal basin also

Can't believe there are people still talking about a new stadium.:emoji_thinking:

olderskyblue · Jan 20, 2017

stevefloyd said:
And you believe him?????????????

Well, if it suits my argument, then yes. If it doesn't, then no... thought that was clear on here?

shy_tall_knight · Jan 20, 2017

Brylowes said:
Can't believe there are people still talking about a new stadium.:emoji_thinking:

The thought of a city centre location for the ground gets me excite no matter how unlikely

shmmeee · Jan 20, 2017

stevefloyd said:
And you believe him?????????????

Dollars to doughnuts Fisher looked around and found out the biggest possible site was 59 acres.

I don't see why you need 60 acres, but then I can't see the "massive room to expand" at the Butts either.

I maintain we knock down half the city centre, it's about the only regeneration plan that's likely to succeed. Failing that, Warwick Uni.

Anyone know how big HR was? That's got to be close to as small as you could go.

shmmeee · Jan 20, 2017

shy_tall_knight said:
Thats a good shout for a potential new ground - not sure what's happening to the old fire station plot but proximity to city centre and railway station is great could help regenerate the canal basin also

The new fire station is going on the old one isn't it?

shmmeee · Jan 20, 2017

Gigg Lane is 4.59 acres But obviously that's in a perfect rectangle.

Meadow Lane (20k) is about 5.75 acres.

Best I can get in a rectangle on the site Otis is on about is about 3 acres.

Otis · Jan 20, 2017

shmmeee said:
Gigg Lane is 4.59 acres But obviously that's in a perfect rectangle.

Meadow Lane (20k) is about 5.75 acres.

Best I can get in a rectangle on the site Otis is on about is about 3 acres.

Not the best shape for sure. Nice place for the academy though.

shmmeee · Jan 20, 2017

What about up by the hospital? Who owns that?

Terry Gibson's perm · Jan 20, 2017

robbiethemole said:
Fisher always said minimum 60 acres

This is where we go wrong when a Fisher quotes figures he has no idea on figures look at his history with them.

hill83 · Jan 20, 2017

Just a couple of acres

ceetee · Jan 20, 2017

That

robbiethemole said:
Fisher always said minimum 60 acres

That was to include a training base and Academy as well as commercial outlets as i recall.
Hardly going to find that in Coventry.
And I believe that the commercial outlets are essential if they want a developer to pay for it.,

Randeep94 · Jan 20, 2017

Would be looking a 7/8 acres atleast. Hard finding within a reasonable distance. Speedway would been ideal if it wasn't so far out of the City Centre.

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