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What worries me about Doug King (2 Viewers)

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  • Start date Nov 26, 2024
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Moff

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  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #71
Deity said:
I thought DK said at the forum that he planned to bring in a Sporting Director, and last week we were linked with Steve Round for that role ???
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It's only taken two years or so, and its still only a rumour. Go Doug
 
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nunchuckas

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  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #72
Deity said:
Do you think the Owners of Man City, Arsenal, Etc had a deep understanding of football when they bought them ? No. Of course not. It’s true for most modern owners.

This isn’t the 1980’s where a guy who had made a few quid and loved his local club bought it.

I don;t know Doug but i do know business.

From what i can see he is trying to put in a high calibre team of people commercially and on the football side to give us the best chance of success. It might work, it might not but my god it’s so much better than we had under SISU and frankly so much better than most championship teams get. The only clubs who have invested more than we have over the last 2 years have been championships clubs who had recently dropped down from the Premier League.

Does Doug have an ego, almost certainly. Has he made some errors in driving change, yes. Are we better off for his involvement ? By a country mile.
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I dunno, maybe in a few years time we'll look back over the previous 20-30 years and think that actually the apathetic SISU era was the most stable, football wise at least. At least they would never have sacked Robins and just left him to it.

As good as the off field improvements are, I'd still rather that than a nice club shop - this is all on the assumption that it does transpire that Doug is in the midst of messing everything up, football wise.
 
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BusyDoughnut

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  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #73
mmttww said:
No.
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It does sound like he said is happy with the midfield here. And I would say it's a problem if the person making decisions on the deck thinks Andrews, Allen and Latibeaudiere are strong Championship midfield options
 
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Deity

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  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #74
nunchuckas said:
I dunno, maybe in a few years time we'll look back over the previous 20-30 years and think that actually the apathetic SISU era was the most stable, football wise at least. At least they would never have sacked Robins and just left him to it.

As good as the off field improvements are, I'd still rather that than a nice club shop - this is all on the assumption that it does transpire that Doug is in the midst of messing everything up, football wise.
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You will be able to host the “SISU the golden years” party in a phone box.
 

mmttww

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  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #75
Moff said:
So how do you know the above is true...
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Because there's no evidence to say otherwise.
 

Para1140

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  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #76
BusyDoughnut said:
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It does sound like he said is happy with the midfield here. And I would say it's a problem if the person making decisions on the deck thinks Andrews, Allen and Latibeaudiere are strong Championship midfield options
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Reading that DK comes across as an arrogant sarcastic twat
 
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Para1140

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  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #77
mmttww said:
No.
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Yes he did.
 
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nunchuckas

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  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #78
Deity said:
You will be able to host the “SISU the golden years” party in a phone box.
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There is an element of tongue in cheek in my post, but if Doug does mess it all up from here, then it could crazily be true.

The Robinson/Richardson all but killed us, the initial hands-on SISU era did kill us, Mark Robins brought us back to life - which was facilitated by the hands-off SISU era and them just leaving him to it, if this is followed up by Doug throwing this all away with batshit football decisions and starts a spiral down the leagues again over the coming years then that will make those last few apathetic SISU years our best owner days in 30 years. And that is not saying much!
 
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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #79
Moff said:
It's only taken two years or so, and its still only a rumour. Go Doug
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I mean we had Robins before that who was responsible for the football operations including final say on transfers.

You don’t need a DOF in the traditional set up
 
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Earlsdon-Loyal-Blue

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  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #80
Para1140 said:
Reading that DK comes across as an arrogant sarcastic twat
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And this is one of many instances where he’s talked in an arrogant, twattish voice about matters that he isn’t informed to comment on. The centre of midfield needs strong reinforcements and young Kai Andrews (who I won’t write off as I can’t recall making an appearance or been given a chance yet) and Jamie Allen don’t fit the top 6 ‘deck’ claim.
 
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Earlsdon-Loyal-Blue

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  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #81
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
King is a failure, fucked up using all of the Gus and Gyokeres transfer fees effectively.
Fucked up appointing a new assistant
Fucked up sacking Robin
And is now going to fuck up appointing a new manager.
And a collection of other minor fuck ups along the way.

We know he knows nothing about football but appears he's a bit clueless about all matters.
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Majority agree but don’t think DK can be solely blamed for blowing the Gyokeres money alone. According to DK, when he arrived SISU were ready to sell Gyokeres and Robins said thank god he’s not going - so you’d be right in assuming surely VG replacements were already lined up and identified.

That said, Hamer was dreadfully replaced and we have struggled in centre mid, Dennis Lawrence was not replaced, AV was not replaced, Palmer was not replaced, and DK would have been at the heart of all those decisions.

My anger has been the journey we have all been on and invested in, since dropping to League 2 and coming back up the leagues, that now it feels like it’s all at risk to be a very rich man’s toy, who appears clueless on all fronts other than retail. Even disabled and JSB policies King has made massive fuck ups on.

It won’t be so great having a nice new club shop selling lots of shirts when we’re back in League 1.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #82
BusyDoughnut said:
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It does sound like he said is happy with the midfield here. And I would say it's a problem if the person making decisions on the deck thinks Andrews, Allen and Latibeaudiere are strong Championship midfield options
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He's happy with the midfield but we won't stop buying goalkeepers and strikers
 

blunted

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  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #83
Mucca Mad Boys said:
It should be. It was close last season and the only players we’ve lost are COH and Palmer. Looking at their statistical outputs this season, we’re not missing much!

How did a back 5 of Collins, MVE, Thomas, Kitching and Bidwell go from conceding next to 0 goals in 10-12 games to now leaking an average of 2 goals a game?

Don’t get me wrong, we need 2-3 players to top up the team but we really aren’t far away from having a top team in this division.
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In pre-season, in an Interview, Eccles said we have a whole new approach to how we are going to play. We used to be predominantly a counter attacking team, now we are a pressing team that can't pass through the lines. Teams defend against us then find we are wide open on the break. Hence the two goals a game conceded problem.
The level of coaching for us has fallen with a lot of coaches that are inexperienced or have not been successful consistently elsewhere. Poor preparation leads to piss poor performance.
 
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wingy

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  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #84
BusyDoughnut said:
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It does sound like he said is happy with the midfield here. And I would say it's a problem if the person making decisions on the deck thinks Andrews, Allen and Latibeaudiere are strong Championship midfield options
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Like the username!
 

ccfc922

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  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #85
GIMOC said:
and players who are ‘Premier League fit’
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Maybe Reece James "Premier League Fit".
 

blunted

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  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #86
Moff said:
It's only taken two years or so, and its still only a rumour. Go Doug
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As we used to say when I was a kid, "If bullshit was music we would have a brass band". Currently we have a dictatorship. That needs to change quick.
Strange that Boddy who was so successful was another one shown the door.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #87
BusyDoughnut said:
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It does sound like he said is happy with the midfield here. And I would say it's a problem if the person making decisions on the deck thinks Andrews, Allen and Latibeaudiere are strong Championship midfield options
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Someone ought to tell him it's not his job to decide if the midfield is good enough - he's not qualified to make that decision. Fact he names some of those as viable midfield options right now tells you everything.
 
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The watchmaker

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  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #88
BusyDoughnut said:
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It does sound like he said is happy with the midfield here. And I would say it's a problem if the person making decisions on the deck thinks Andrews, Allen and Latibeaudiere are strong Championship midfield options
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What I love about it is that he says we had Kasey Palmer as though having had players counts. "...and there was O'Hare and Hamer... Paul Telfer - how many options does he want!?"
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #89
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Someone ought to tell him it's not his job to decide if the midfield is good enough - he's not qualified to make that decision. Fact he names some of those as viable midfield options right now tells you everything.
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I thought he was just giving a opinion, as for not being " qualified " well it's his club.
 
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Earlsdon-Loyal-Blue

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  • Nov 27, 2024
  • #90
Skyblue Bangkok said:
I thought he was just giving a opinion, as for not being " qualified " well it's his club.
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He’s a custodian of our club. This isn’t the same as daddy giving you a trust fund and a rapeseed business.
 
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