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What the fuck has happened to England (4 Viewers)

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  • Start date Jun 14, 2022
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David O'Day

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  • Jun 14, 2022
  • #36
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I’d always assumed Slippy or Lampard would take the role after a few years.
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Are they good managers? I suppose Slippy may win something if every other team appointed Neil Francis Lennon as manager
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Jun 14, 2022
  • #37
Deleted member 5849 said:
Two tournaments in a row is luck?
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watch the games abck and tell me we played well in any of the games, only game we played well in was the italy game but the lack of ideas from big nose cost us
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Jun 14, 2022
  • #38
Otis said:
This is just like being on a City match thread.
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You mean O'Hare missed a sitter?
 

David O'Day

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  • Jun 14, 2022
  • #39
Otis said:
We are good enough. It's just the wrong tactics
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With this XI they'd be better moving james or walker to a 3rd cb and saka to LWB
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 14, 2022
  • #40
David O'Day said:
Are they good managers? I suppose Slippy may win something if every other team appointed Neil Francis Lennon as manager
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Well they’ll have gained better club experience than Southgate that’s for sure. Slippy will have his eyes on the Liverpool job of course but Lampard has already been binned off from his dream job
 

FulltimeWum

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  • Jun 14, 2022
  • #41
Andy Thorn would out think this lot.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Jun 14, 2022
  • #42
Kieranp96 said:
watch the games abck and tell me we played well in any of the games, only game we played well in was the italy game but the lack of ideas from big nose cost us
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Talking of big nose - the Hungary No 5 would give Pinnochio a run for his money.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 14, 2022
  • #43
Are we led to believe this garbage Hungary team who we dicked on in front of a full racist house have suddenly become unbreakable?
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Jun 14, 2022
  • #44
Deleted member 5849 said:
Two tournaments in a row is luck?
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By far the best manager we have had in decades
 

FulltimeWum

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  • Jun 14, 2022
  • #45
Deleted member 5849 said:
Finalist at European Championships
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I double dare you to watch any of the matches back again.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 14, 2022
  • #46
FulltimeWum said:
I double dare you to watch any of the matches back again.
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That your way of saying I was right?
 

Otis

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  • Jun 14, 2022
  • #47
FulltimeWum said:
I double dare you to watch any of the matches back again.
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We were brilliant against Germany weren't we?
 

FulltimeWum

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  • Jun 14, 2022
  • #48
No, I think anyone that praises Southgate or England after that tournament or the previous world cup needs to take their tinted glasses off.

So much talent wasted.

Italy seized games, Croatia the tournament before killed games with gamesmanship.

England kick the balls to corners for Sterling to chase and then wait for imaginary knock downs to Kane.

Insipid.
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Jun 14, 2022
  • #49
Deleted member 9744 said:
By far the best manager we have had in decades
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Andy Thorne or Southgate?
 
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BodicoteSkyBlue

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  • Jun 14, 2022
  • #50
That Gallagher needs a hair cut, I keep thinking it’s Robbie Savage running about!
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 14, 2022
  • #51
Anyway, I didn't want Southgate when he was appointed - his record with Middlesbrough was terrible. But, ultimately, he's outperformed just about every England manager before him. That, much like Robins with City, gives him a certain leeway in suggesting he does know what he's doing. Would I set up as he does? Nope. But then playing like Keegan had us playing didn't really work.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 14, 2022
  • #52
The players couldn't give a fuck and to be fair I don't really blame them, long season next season with that silly world cup in the middle of it yet they've had their holiday cut to play in this pointless competition.
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Jun 14, 2022
  • #53
And there are the predicted boos.
 

Otis

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  • Jun 14, 2022
  • #54
fernandopartridge said:
The players couldn't give a fuck and to be fair I don't really blame them, long season next season with that silly world cup in the middle of it yet they've had their holiday cut to play in this pointless competition.
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That is part of it I'm sure.
 

FulltimeWum

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  • Jun 14, 2022
  • #55
Deleted member 5849 said:
Anyway, I didn't want Southgate when he was appointed - his record with Middlesbrough was terrible. But, ultimately, he's outperformed just about every England manager before him. That, much like Robins with City, gives him a certain leeway in suggesting he does know what he's doing. Would I set up as he does? Nope. But then playing like Keegan had us playing didn't really work.
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Achieved nothing. Collapsed under pressure every time.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 14, 2022
  • #56
Deleted member 5849 said:
That your way of saying I was right?
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Well. Like Venables he had home advantage for all the games, except for one. But yes went one further.

The performance against Scotland was next level poor
 

Otis

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  • Jun 14, 2022
  • #57
FulltimeWum said:
Achieved nothing. Collapsed under pressure every time.
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Sounds like Spain before they finally started winning stuff.

It's a fine line and we do have the quality.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 14, 2022
  • #58
fernandopartridge said:
The players couldn't give a fuck and to be fair I don't really blame them, long season next season with that silly world cup in the middle of it yet they've had their holiday cut to play in this pointless competition.
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Well then they should tell everyone that so nobody pays for a ticket
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 14, 2022
  • #59
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Well then they should tell everyone that so nobody pays for a ticket
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Southgate should have picked a totally second string squad with players given a chance to state their case, instead he's gone with the same old same old
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jun 14, 2022
  • #60
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Well they’ll have gained better club experience than Southgate that’s for sure. Slippy will have his eyes on the Liverpool job of course but Lampard has already been binned off from his dream job
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But they like Southgate haven't shown anything to say they are international class mamagers
 

Otis

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  • Jun 14, 2022
  • #61
Anyway, Gallagher has been poor, as have Walker and Bowen. Bowen is getting into good positions, but is either than dispossessed, or puts in a poor cross.

Bellingham has been decent, as have James and Saka.

Kane looks sluggish again unfortunately
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Jun 14, 2022
  • #62
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Andy Thorne or Southgate?
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Jackett
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 14, 2022
  • #63
Otis said:
Sounds like Spain before they finally started winning stuff.

It's a fine line and we do have the quality.
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Not at the back we don’t, and he sets us up to nick a 1-0 against everyone. We aren’t Italy of the 80s and 90s
 

Otis

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  • Jun 14, 2022
  • #64
fernandopartridge said:
Southgate should have picked a totally second string squad with players given a chance to state their case, instead he's gone with the same old same old
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Isn't it 9 changes? And Bellingham, Gallagher, Ramsdale and Guehi aren't same old same old are they?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 14, 2022
  • #65
David O'Day said:
But they like Southgate haven't shown anything to say they are international class mamagers
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They’ve done more than he did at Middlesbrough
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jun 14, 2022
  • #66
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Well. Like Venables he had home advantage for all the games, except for one. But yes went one further.

The performance against Scotland was next level poor
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So, semi finals at the World Cup? Home advantage there?
 

FulltimeWum

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  • Jun 14, 2022
  • #67
Otis said:
Sounds like Spain before they finally started winning stuff.

It's a fine line and we do have the quality.
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Behave. There's a difference between possession football in the opposition's half and threatening areas and playing a back 6 and knocking it about for an hour.
 

Otis

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  • Jun 14, 2022
  • #68
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Not at the back we don’t, and he sets us up to nick a 1-0 against everyone. We aren’t Italy of the 80s and 90s
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I agree on the centre backs. Shaw and James are both good enough
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 14, 2022
  • #69
Deleted member 5849 said:
So, semi finals at the World Cup? Home advantage there?
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Bobby Robson matched that and Alf Ramsay bettered it.
 

Otis

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  • Jun 14, 2022
  • #70
FulltimeWum said:
Behave. There's a difference between possession football in the opposition's half and threatening areas and playing a back 6 and knocking it about for an hour.
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Showed lots of promise, collapsed under pressure.

Very similar.
 
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