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What the fuck has happened to England (10 Viewers)

  • Thread starter Kieranp96
  • Start date Jun 14, 2022
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mark82

Super Moderator
  • Sep 26, 2022
  • #771
Let's take a look at Henderson.
 
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mark82

Super Moderator
  • Sep 26, 2022
  • #772
David O'Day said:
He's pretty ropey as well
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They all are TBF.
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Sep 26, 2022
  • #773
Don't get throwing on someone we already know about.
 
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Tommo1993

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 26, 2022
  • #774
We haven’t had a great keeper in years.
 

LastGarrison

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 26, 2022
  • #775
mark82 said:
I don't mind Pope in the squad. Ramsdale is our best keeper IMO.
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I think Pickford has earned his starting place but I do think Ramsdale will take over in the next year or two.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 26, 2022
  • #776
mark82 said:
Are we gonna give Toney at least a couple of minutes?
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No - Gareth is easing him in..........................s l o w l y
 

Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 26, 2022
  • #777
mark82 said:
Don't get throwing on someone we already know about.
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Especially as he's past it at the top level.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 26, 2022
  • #778
mark82 said:
Don't get throwing on someone we already know about.
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Got to protect the draw and seal 4th place.
 

MacReady

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 26, 2022
  • #779
So what can we take from this? Maguire and Pope will start in the WC. I can see it now.
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Sep 26, 2022
  • #780
Frostie said:
Especially as he's past it at the top level.
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It's mad. Although suspect Bellingham was feeling that tackle a bit.
 

MacReady

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 26, 2022
  • #781
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Got to protect the draw and seal 4th place.
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Maybe bring a right back on for Saka to ensure it.
 
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mark82

Super Moderator
  • Sep 26, 2022
  • #782
Slightly better performance but still disappointing. Took us being 2 down to show some passion. Not a big Mount fan but at least looked like he gave a shit.
 

Block 19

Active Member
  • Sep 26, 2022
  • #783
bring back big sam
 
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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 26, 2022
  • #784
Bottom line is that was much better and shows what we ARE capable of. Just need Southgate to recognise that.

Bellingham was MOTM. I thought Shaw and Rice were both very good and Mount and Saka, especially, looked really decent when they came on.
 
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Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 26, 2022
  • #785
MacReady said:
So what can we take from this? Maguire and Pope will start in the WC. I can see it now.
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Don’t think Pope will unless Pickford is crocked.
 
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mark82

Super Moderator
  • Sep 26, 2022
  • #786
Otis said:
Bottomed line is that was much better and shows what we ARE capable of. Just need Southgate to recognise that.

Bellingham was MOTM. I thought Shaw and Rice were both very good and Mount and Saka, especially, looked really decent when they came on.
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Bellingham been the big shining light of the last 2 games. Got a big future ahead of him.
 
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mark82

Super Moderator
  • Sep 26, 2022
  • #787
MacReady said:
So what can we take from this? Maguire and Pope will start in the WC. I can see it now.
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Maguire is terrible at the moment. Not sure the alternatives are much better to be fair.
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Sep 26, 2022
  • #788
John Terry is only 41. Reckon we can tempt him back?
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 26, 2022
  • #789
End of the day

3 points from 6 matches and the football was awful for almost all of it
 

Paul Anthony

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 26, 2022
  • #790
Otis said:
Bottomed line is that was much better and shows what we ARE capable of. Just need Southgate to recognise that.

Bellingham was MOTM. I thought Shaw and Rice were both very good and Mount and Saka, especially, looked really decent when they came on.
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Fully agree. Clearly we've not been playing to the strengths of our team, and when we do we are so much better.
 
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Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 26, 2022
  • #791
mark82 said:
It's mad. Although suspect Bellingham was feeling that tackle a bit.
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Yeah, agree, more a damning indictment that Henderson was the only option I guess. Real dearth of talent in that position.
 

MacReady

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 26, 2022
  • #792
Otis said:
Bottomed line is that was much better and shows what we ARE capable of. Just need Southgate to recognise that.

Bellingham was MOTM. I thought Shaw and Rice were both very good and Mount and Saka, especially, looked really decent when they came on.
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Agree with this. Shaw is direct which is refreshing - Bellingham was ace in terms of ball turnover and setting counters off.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 26, 2022
  • #793
We are pretty shit for most of the game against an at best average German side.

It'll get treated like some kind of great victory
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Sep 26, 2022
  • #794
Looking forward to Bellingham being ruined by his next transfer.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 26, 2022
  • #795
mark82 said:
Looking forward to Bellingham being ruined by his next transfer.
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He seems pretty level headed to be honest, he'll probably pick correctly
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 26, 2022
  • #796
Oh and I thought James was much, much better second half. He has a great cross on him.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 26, 2022
  • #797
Let's see what Southgate's main observation is. Probably that being too attacking cost us the win
 
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Block 19

Active Member
  • Sep 26, 2022
  • #798
I still think we should sack them all off and play the under 21s. What do we have to lose? I know Folarin Balogun didn't do much at Middlesbrough last season, but my gut feeling is that he'd probably pip Harry Kane at the world cup for the golden boot if we just gave him a chance
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 26, 2022
  • #799
 
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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 26, 2022
  • #800
Otis said:
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That is a NSS post, but it has to be said and Southgate needs to get it into his thick head.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 26, 2022
  • #801
Otis said:
That is a NSS post, but it has to be said and Southgate needs to get it into his thick head.
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Been saying that for years
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 26, 2022
  • #802
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Been saying that for years
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We know our defence isn't great, so why do we keep trying to protect it?

We carry such a threat going forwards, I really think we need more of a we're going to always score one more than you attitude.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 26, 2022
  • #803
Otis said:
We know our defence isn't great, so why do we keep trying to protect it?

We carry such a threat going forwards, I really think we need more of a we're going to always score one more than you attitude.
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It would be great if we had quality all over the pitch, but we don't. The Euro final should have been the lesson to learn for Southgate.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 26, 2022
  • #804
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It would be great if we had quality all over the pitch, but we don't. The Euro final should have been the lesson to learn for Southgate.
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Exactly. And when we concentrate on the defence we just nullify all the attacking qualities we possess.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 26, 2022
  • #805
Otis said:
Exactly. And when we concentrate on the defence we just nullify all the attacking qualities we possess.
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It still stings now to be honest. Winning the game and cruising while playing aggressive football that Italy just couldn't find a response to. Then second half he sends them out to camp in their own half and invite pressure.

Mancini looked lost in the first half and relieved in the second
 
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