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What the fuck has happened to England (2 Viewers)

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Frostie

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  • Sep 23, 2022
  • #526
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Sep 23, 2022
  • #527
Frostie said:
Can't see why he'd be remotely interested.
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We have one of the most talented groups of attacking players in the world.
 
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Otis

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  • Sep 23, 2022
  • #528
mark82 said:
We have one of the most talented groups of attacking players in the world.
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That's what makes it all the more frustrating. Fabulous attacking threat, yet can't score a goal from open play in 5 games.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 23, 2022
  • #529
Frostie said:
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San Marino’s one of the most beautiful places I’ve ever been, Southgate should go for a visit. For about 20 or 30 years.
 

Evo1883

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  • Sep 23, 2022
  • #530
Italy without Spinazzola, Bastoni, Tonali, Zaniolo, Chiesa, Immobile
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 23, 2022
  • #531
Actually , to really understand how bad Gareth Southgate has been , or lucky for the better word

Check out his overall record against top nations
Nobody can seriously say the bloke is a good manager
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 23, 2022
  • #532
Evo1883 said:
Italy without Spinazzola, Bastoni, Tonali, Zaniolo, Chiesa, Immobile
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Genuinely who would we put up front if Kane is unavailable?
 

Frostie

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  • Sep 23, 2022
  • #533
mark82 said:
We have one of the most talented groups of attacking players in the world.
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Yes but a woeful defence etc. & the England job is such a hiding to nothing. Howe has a much better thing going for him at Newcastle.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Sep 23, 2022
  • #534
Evo1883 said:
Italy without Spinazzola, Bastoni, Tonali, Zaniolo, Chiesa, Immobile
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Verratti!
 
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Evo1883

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  • Sep 23, 2022
  • #535
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Verratti!
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And we are the ones with all the talent apparantly
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 23, 2022
  • #536
Evo1883 said:
And we are the ones with all the talent apparantly
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Declan Rice should switch back to Ireland
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Sep 23, 2022
  • #537
Start getting ready for the we are planning for 2030.
 

David O'Day

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  • Sep 23, 2022
  • #538


sack him
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 23, 2022
  • #539
David O'Day said:
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sack him
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Only Bellingham can hold his head up after that. And as was alluded to it’s only because Southgate hasn’t really used him that he was trying to play with more attacking purpose
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Sep 23, 2022
  • #540
Couldn't give a fuck tbh, never get excited for England, only watch the tournaments.

Got excited for the semi and final last year but who didnt.

Weird cus when it comes to Cov I've shed tears, screamed in elation, celebrated, been distraught you name it

England im just 'ah well'
 
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Otis

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  • Sep 23, 2022
  • #541
David O'Day said:
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sack him
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We played very well? Seriously?
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Sep 23, 2022
  • #542
Gareth Southgate £5m per year plus bonuses - probably explains why he spouts stuff like this

Lots of good individual performances. I personally thought the performance is a step in the right direction
 

SomersetSB

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  • Sep 23, 2022
  • #543
LastGarrison said:
Unlucky.

I ended up having a nibble on Italy/draw no bet at 5/4 so least got some additional betting tokens to back the Krauts with on Monday.

Should have held my nerve and backed them right out. They were 10/3 to win just before they scored.
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At least I got money back on Italy/draw@8/15.
LastGarrison said:
Unlucky.

I ended up having a nibble on Italy/draw no bet at 5/4 so least got some additional betting tokens to back the Krauts with on Monday.

Should have held my nerve and backed them right out. They were 10/3 to win just before they scored.
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Shall do my four draws tomorrow as a lucky 15
Bristol rovers v Accrington
Barrow v Leyton Orient
Hartlepool v Gillingham
Sutton v Salford
 
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SBAndy

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  • Sep 23, 2022
  • #544
mark82 said:
Who would you appoint? Prior to him joining Chelsea I'd have had Potter. Obviously won't happen now.

Eddie Howe maybe the one I'd go for.
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Steve Cooper?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 23, 2022
  • #545
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Declan Rice should switch back to Ireland
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No, thanks.
 
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rexo87

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  • Sep 24, 2022
  • #546
Saddlebrains said:
Couldn't give a fuck tbh, never get excited for England, only watch the tournaments.

Got excited for the semi and final last year but who didnt.

Weird cus when it comes to Cov I've shed tears, screamed in elation, celebrated, been distraught you name it

England im just 'ah well'
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Yeah agreed. Would rather cov win a league cup game than England win a tournament, really not bothered. Also no point in sacking Southgate this close to a tournament. Probably has to go after though

Sent from my SM-G991B using Tapatalk
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Sep 24, 2022
  • #547
mark82 said:
Who would you appoint? Prior to him joining Chelsea I'd have had Potter. Obviously won't happen now.

Eddie Howe maybe the one I'd go for.
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You can just see it being Scott Parker
 
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Otis

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  • Sep 24, 2022
  • #548
SlowerThanPlatt said:
You can just see it being Scott Parker
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Cos of the nice hair and tie? Always a winner.
 

Nick

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  • Sep 24, 2022
  • #549
SlowerThanPlatt said:
You can just see it being Scott Parker
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Dry your eyes mate.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Sep 24, 2022
  • #550
Damning assessment from Henry Winter

The FA will not get rid of Gareth Southgate, certainly not on the eve of a World Cup and certainly not with executives having so much personal credibility tied up in his doing well, but the governing body is surely finally beginning to realise that he is not a great tactician, his in-game management lacks decisiveness and he risks wasting a good generation.

Everyone focuses on this run of three defeats in five matches now, no wins in five, no goals from open play in 450 minutes and relegation from tier A of the Nations League, but this slide began in the European Championship final last year when Southgate failed to respond to Roberto Mancini’s second-half changes. People are waking up to a painful situation that has been unfolding for 14 months. It’s not a bad dream, it’s a grim reality.

 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 24, 2022
  • #551
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Damning assessment from Henry Winter

The FA will not get rid of Gareth Southgate, certainly not on the eve of a World Cup and certainly not with executives having so much personal credibility tied up in his doing well, but the governing body is surely finally beginning to realise that he is not a great tactician, his in-game management lacks decisiveness and he risks wasting a good generation.

Everyone focuses on this run of three defeats in five matches now, no wins in five, no goals from open play in 450 minutes and relegation from tier A of the Nations League, but this slide began in the European Championship final last year when Southgate failed to respond to Roberto Mancini’s second-half changes. People are waking up to a painful situation that has been unfolding for 14 months. It’s not a bad dream, it’s a grim reality.

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I did say this during the Euros. People said it was fine to be playing for mind numbing tedium as we were getting away with it. Sadly though poor football will always eventually turn into poor results.
 
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Otis

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  • Sep 24, 2022
  • #552
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I did say this during the Euros. People said it was fine to be playing for mind numbing tedium as we were getting away with it. Sadly though poor football will always eventually turn into poor results.
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I can't remember the last time we played well to be honest. It's been a series of games now with very lacklustre performances and a lack of cohesion.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 24, 2022
  • #553
Otis said:
I can't remember the last time we played well to be honest. It's been a series of games now with very lacklustre performances and a lack of cohesion.
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The commentators said it quite well as having become conditioned to play negatively and that Bellingham who hasn’t really played much for Southgate hadn’t succumbed to that yet.

My biggest concern is that this crop of players is just going to be wasted. That’s why he needs to go as soon as possible. Don’t wait for the formalities of an early World Cup exit.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Sep 24, 2022
  • #554
Del piero even said our players have no freedom
 
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Otis

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  • Sep 24, 2022
  • #555
Evo1883 said:
Del piero even said our players have no freedom
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That's it in a nutshell. No freedom to express themselves. And that is daft when you have flair players.

Players like Sterling and Sancho and Saka and Grealish and to a degree, Bellingham, thrive on having a bit of freedom to play their natural game.

I think we have to play Toney on Monday. The result now doesn't matter. We need to try something different. The worry is, he will put Mason Mount back in, who has done next to nothing for England.
 
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SBT

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  • Sep 24, 2022
  • #556
Brighton Sky Blue said:
My biggest concern is that this crop of players is just going to be wasted. That’s why he needs to go as soon as possible. Don’t wait for the formalities of an early World Cup exit.
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Like who? Kane is the only world class player in the squad whose window is closed by the time USA 2026 comes around.
 

Otis

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  • Sep 24, 2022
  • #557
SBT said:
Like who? Kane is the only world class player in the squad whose window is closed by the time USA 2026 comes around.
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We have a fine crop of young players coming through. I don't think anyone has any idea whatsoever what level they will be by 2026.
 

SBAndy

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  • Sep 24, 2022
  • #558
None of our attacking players last night were particularly suited to each other’s game. Sterling was awful for slowing down attacks, Kane dropping so deep that at one point he was wearing the keeper top. Needs a huge rethink. Make far more use of the wing backs in an attacking sense as well.

Oh and Pope isn’t an international keeper. He’s absolutely awful on the ball.
 
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SBT

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  • Sep 24, 2022
  • #559
Sacking Southgate before the World Cup is a fantasy. His overachievement in the Euros was always going to buy him the chance to have a go at the World Cup. Even if he was fired, you’re not going to get a new manager bounce at international level - look at Spain in the last World Cup.
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Sep 24, 2022
  • #560
SBT said:
Like who? Kane is the only world class player in the squad whose window is closed by the time USA 2026 comes around.
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You can be concerned if Southgate gets us through against the 'might' of Wales, USA and Iran, squeaks through another round, and the FA don't sack him afterwards. The talent, whilst left under the current set up, could well be wasted. For me it stems from the amount of the game wasted p*ssing about at the back with players whose main aim seems to be 'not being the one to give the ball away'. The result is the ball being at the wrong end of the pitch for long periods, with those players pre-occupied with not losing the ball, rather than being part of a cohesive attacking unit. The lack of urgency to 'attack' only ever changes when we go a goal behind (by which time they all seem numbed into the style of play, by the hole they have already dug themselves into)
 
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