Has he? We’ve had one half decent game. He’s also shown the ability to get the worst basing it on yesterday.
Robins PPG 1.07
Lampard PPG 1.40
Don't think that's quite the smoking gun you think it is mate
On what basis then are you saying Lampard hasn’t got more out of these players than Robins?
And look at who we have playedThis season has been much of a muchness no matter who has been in charge.
Very early days for Lampard and he needs time, and hopefully he'll get it and put things right but in his short tenure so far there's absolutely nothing to suggest any improvement.
The same frailties at the back, abject individual performances, no leadership.
0.33 of a point better doesn't sell your point to me but as I said, I'm giving him longer than 5 or 6 games but it's too early to be making prounoucments about his performance either way.
And look at who we have played
Cardiff at home (bottom 3) Drew
Millwall away who had a 3-4 of their best players out - Won
West Brom (play off contenders) - Lost
Hull (bottom 3) - Won
Portsmouth (bottom 3) - lost
The original point I replied to was that Lampard wasn’t getting the best out of this team.
There is nothing to suggest he is doing worse than Robins in that regard. That is the point I’m making.
Perhaps it’s just that we’ve signed a big pile of shite for £43m?
And every time I hear a remark about the signings I have to reply the same thing, Robins had them in promotion form for over 3 months so if Lampard is a better manager he'll improve on that.
Not this squad he didn’t
OK, so if we're judging purely on this season are we only giving Lampard 14 games as well?
If you insist onlooking at players performances then one example is Sakamoto. What has happened to his exciting brand and style? I think I saw him take a man on once yesterday. Now that has to be coaching to blame. He is not a midfield player, far too lightweight. But, they have took his attacking ability away from him.
Defence is shocking. The table shows it. Goals for is not bad, but against the number tells a story. Goalkeeping has been poor and better when Wilson was in, though others do not want to believe that. Thomas is OK, and is a good attacking threat from corners. Binks just not showing enough. Bidwell sorely missed. Van Ewik not his full self but is OK.
Torp should be in the number 10 role not Rudoni. If Sheaf could shoot on target I'd perservere but his form has deserted him. And attacking options are not utilesed properly Simms all day long for me. Bassette is still learning.
I'd try this and work on it all week:
...........................Dovin
Van Ewik.......Thomas.......Kitching........Bidwell
Eccles
Rudoni......................Torp
Asante..............................................EMC
Simms
I’m not sure how to answer that.
I thought Robins was got rid of too quickly.
I suppose my argument back would be that these are Robins’ players
If you insist onlooking at players performances then one example is Sakamoto. What has happened to his exciting brand and style? I think I saw him take a man on once yesterday. Now that has to be coaching to blame. He is not a midfield player, far too lightweight. But, they have took his attacking ability away from him.
Defence is shocking. The table shows it. Goals for is not bad, but against the number tells a story. Goalkeeping has been poor and better when Wilson was in, though others do not want to believe that. Thomas is OK, and is a good attacking threat from corners. Binks just not showing enough. Bidwell sorely missed. Van Ewik not his full self but is OK.
Torp should be in the number 10 role not Rudoni. If Sheaf could shoot on target I'd perservere but his form has deserted him. And attacking options are not utilised properly Simms all day long for me. Bassette is still learning.
I'd try this and work on it all week:
...........................Dovin
Van Ewik.......Thomas.......Kitching........Bidwell
............................Eccles
...........Rudoni......................Torp
Asante..............................................EMC
.............................Simms
Interestingly, Slot at Liverpool said you can judge a manager on 18 games.OK, so if we're judging purely on this season are we only giving Lampard 14 games as well?
Robins PPG 1.07
Lampard PPG 1.40
Let’s wait until we’ve had comparable length at least. Of his five games three have been against the bottom four.
I agree.
The only point I'm making is that there is no evidence that he is doing worse with these players than Robins was
For me second half yesterday was the worst performance for years.
Leeds away earlier in the season was horrific .
We don't judge managers on individual games.
The quality of the opposition is irrelevant when it comes to guts. You can play the best team in the world, get hammered, and still show guts.Leeds was against essentially a PL team, this was against a relegation side and we’d shown we could outclass them. It’s was pure gutlessness.
Yep.For me second half yesterday was the worst performance for years.
And every time I hear a remark about the signings I have to reply the same thing, Robins had them in promotion form for over 3 months so if Lampard is a better manager he'll improve on that.
It’s not the same - stop this nonsense
Of course it is. People are holding a fella who just walked in the door to a different standard than a fella who was here nearly 8 years and rebuilt the club, that's nonsensical.
It isn’t. We lost o hare in the form of his life.
Also it’s the same team then that Robins then managed 34 points from the next 31 games. Other than splurging millions on more players. What happened?
Again, people include last season when it suits and ignore it when it suits.
King said this is a top 6 deck that's EPL fit so the players are good enough aren't they?
Is this why you keep referring to last season only in terms of the 3-month period when we actually looked any good, rather than the season as a whole?Again, people include last season when it suits and ignore it when it suits.
Is this why you keep referring to last season only in terms of the 3-month period when we actually looked any good, rather than the season as a whole?
The fact remains from last summer's overhaul to now the squad has only sustained one period of decent form in the space of 1.5 seasons. Whatever Lampard said, there is no leadership at all out there to help when the tide is turning or to guide the more inexperienced players through.Again, people include last season when it suits and ignore it when it suits.
King said this is a top 6 deck that's EPL fit so the players are good enough aren't they?
Why? Because King said so?
Your own eyes tell you the real answer.
The fact remains from last summer's overhaul to now the squad has only sustained one period of decent form in the space of 1.5 seasons. Whatever Lampard said, there is no leadership at all out there to help when the tide is turning or to guide the more inexperienced players through.
We have assembled a group of technically talented players who shit the bed at the drop of a hat. What Chris Wilder said was so true-he can count on an acceptable minimum from his players every week, the Coventry manager whoever it is cannot.
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