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  • Thread starter Colin1883
  • Start date Mar 27, 2013
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Colin1883

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  • Mar 27, 2013
  • #1
My understanding of it is...

A company that invests co-investors money and take a management fee for doing so whether the investment makes a loss or a profit.

My real question is...

If sisu take the management fee ie 10percent and then reinvest it in ccfc could they say this is part of the debt owed to them?
 
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skybluesam66

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  • Mar 27, 2013
  • #2
Absolutely

The debt - including that transferred from the purchase - will no doubt have been accruing interest also
PWKH also mentioned management fees (although i am not sure the accounts supported the theory)

so even if they acquired the club for nothing - the original balance sheet may have been

goodwill 30m
old debt (-30m)

they then write off the goodwill, and claim that is part of the losses ( albeit they have not really lost the money)
 
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Godiva

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  • Mar 27, 2013
  • #3
Colin1883 said:
My understanding of it is...

A company that invests co-investors money and take a management fee for doing so whether the investment makes a loss or a profit.

My real question is...

If sisu take the management fee ie 10percent and then reinvest it in ccfc could they say this is part of the debt owed to them?
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Hedge funds are usually only paid a success fee. Something like 1-2% of the profit made. The fee is usually paid by the funds - not the company owned by the funds.
There have in previous financial reports been no indication that sisu have taken any fee from the club or the group.
 
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Godiva

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  • Mar 27, 2013
  • #4
skybluesam66 said:
Absolutely

The debt - including that transferred from the purchase - will no doubt have been accruing interest also
PWKH also mentioned management fees (although i am not sure the accounts supported the theory)

so even if they acquired the club for nothing - the original balance sheet may have been

goodwill 30m
old debt (-30m)

they then write off the goodwill, and claim that is part of the losses ( albeit they have not really lost the money)
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The loans provided by the funds draw no interest.
 

Houchens Head

Fairly well known member from Malvern
  • Mar 27, 2013
  • #5
I thought it was a savings account to build a pretty border around your garden? Get rid of the fencing. Start saving to build a hedge of conifers!
 

Mr T - Sukka!

Active Member
  • Mar 27, 2013
  • #6
Hedge funds are private investors setup to make money. Now why on earth they want to invest in football clubs is beyond me.

Everyone knows you lose money buying a football club.
 
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