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What have SISU have done to Coventry City (6 Viewers)

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  • Start date Feb 22, 2014
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rondog1973

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  • Feb 23, 2014
  • #141
torchomatic said:
OK, have it your way. The support has still been piss poor for years. A fact you can't escape from.
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I wouldn't call it piss poor, not on a par with clubs I would consider contemporaries though. The thing is, the main reason for this must surely be the constant mediocrity, not a top 6 finish for more than 40 years with one flash in the pan cup success occurring at the time the game of footballs profile was at it's lowest ebb. Just the stimulous of the odd promotion/play off I think would see a fanbase increase.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 23, 2014
  • #142
bigfatronssba said:
The size of other clubs is irrelevant to be honest.

15k is more than enough fans to compete at championship level.

Relegation season:

1 West Ham United 32977
2 Southampton 26419
3 Derby County 26020
4 Leeds United 23282
5 Leicester City 23080
6 Cardiff City 22139
7 Nottingham Forest 21969
8 Brighton & Hove Albion 20027
9 Birmingham City 19516
10 Reading 19219
11 Hull City 18790
12 Ipswich Town 18266
13 Middlesbrough 17557
14 Crystal Palace 15219
15 Coventry City 15119
16 Portsmouth 15015
17 Burnley 14048
18 Bristol City 13845
19 Blackpool 12808
20 Watford 12703
21 Millwall 11484
22 Barnsley 10329
23 Doncaster Rovers 9341
24 Peterborough United 9110


Attendence is only relative to the teams around you. In that respect we were a mid table supported championship team.
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Of course its not irrelevant its a comment made by you before the obvious answer comes back. Yeovil will not attract big crowds whatever the position they are in. West ham would even if they were bottom.

15 000 would be an acceptable figure if that us achieved by other clubs in similar cities - is it?
 

bigfatronssba

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 23, 2014
  • #143
Grendel said:
Of course its not irrelevant its a comment made by you before the obvious answer comes back. Yeovil will not attract big crowds whatever the position they are in. West ham would even if they were bottom.

15 000 would be an acceptable figure if that us achieved by other clubs in similar cities - is it?
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If your going on population areas then it is pretty similar to other clubs.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 23, 2014
  • #144
Compared to other clubs then no, I don't think it's too impressive. Look back at Derby, Leicester, Forest, Norwich, Southampton, Sunderland, both Sheffield teams. Clubs of similar size and stature.

bigfatronssba said:
So do you think 15k is poor for a Championship club in the relegation zone the whole season? Yes or No?
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Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 23, 2014
  • #145
Were we not getting over 20k when SISU first took over? The crowds got lower very quickly once we ended up with a relegation side.

And now we can be lucky to get more than 2k and that is including the away support.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 23, 2014
  • #146
I think you could be right. From what I remember on here it was around 17K for a couple of seasons afterwards.

Astute said:
Were we not getting over 20k when SISU first took over? The crowds got lower very quickly once we ended up with a relegation side.

And now we can be lucky to get more than 2k and that is including the away support.
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torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 23, 2014
  • #147
ClubHighHigh OpponentLowLow OpponentAverage
Wolves28598Leyton Orient(29/12/13)14989Tranmere(26/11/13)19652
Sheffield Utd19551Oldham(26/12/13)14796Walsall(26/11/13)17139
Bradford City18218Rotherham(26/12/13)12106Port Vale(18/02/14)14382
Bristol City14393Wolves(17/08/13)10085Crawley Town(05/11/13)11568
Preston16583Wolves(03/08/13)8492Colchester(23/11/13)10472
Rotherham11758Sheffield Utd(07/09/13)7096Colchester(02/11/13)8400
MK Dons14988Coventry City(30/11/13)6675Carlisle(22/10/13)8289
Swindon Town11598Bristol City(21/09/13)6683Colchester(14/02/14)8032
Brentford11309Wolves(22/02/14)5705Colchester(19/10/13)7319
Port Vale12601Wolves(31/08/13)3734Colchester(11/02/14)6765
Peterborough10026Leyton Orient(02/11/13)4263Walsall(14/02/14)6639
Gillingham8613Leyton Orient(26/12/13)4951Stevenage(26/11/13)6201
Notts County8564Sheffield Utd(11/01/14)3385Oldham(29/10/13)5625
Shrewsbury9510Wolves(21/09/13)4194Leyton Orient(07/01/14)5607
Leyton Orient7123Preston(16/11/13)3928Bristol City(11/02/14)5254
Tranmere6251Gillingham(20/12/13)3777Rotherham(28/01/14)4879
Crewe6820Port Vale(23/11/13)3613MK Dons(21/01/14)4770
Walsall6519Coventry City(26/10/13)3522Oldham(14/01/14)4585
Oldham7180Bradford City(01/12/13)3460Stevenage(11/01/14)4304
Carlisle7934Preston(26/12/13)2969Crewe(26/11/13)4248
Colchester7295Wolves(05/10/13)2597MK Dons(26/11/13)3766
Crawley Town4177Brentford(02/11/13)2407Preston(14/12/13)3274
Stevenage4262Peterborough(22/02/14)2167Swindon Town(14/01/14)2970
Coventry City4905Peterborough(26/12/13)1603Carlisle(18/02/14)2352
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 23, 2014
  • #148
torchomatic said:
ClubHighHigh OpponentLowLow OpponentAverage
Wolves28598Leyton Orient(29/12/13)14989Tranmere(26/11/13)19652
Sheffield Utd19551Oldham(26/12/13)14796Walsall(26/11/13)17139
Bradford City18218Rotherham(26/12/13)12106Port Vale(18/02/14)14382
Bristol City14393Wolves(17/08/13)10085Crawley Town(05/11/13)11568
Preston16583Wolves(03/08/13)8492Colchester(23/11/13)10472
Rotherham11758Sheffield Utd(07/09/13)7096Colchester(02/11/13)8400
MK Dons14988Coventry City(30/11/13)6675Carlisle(22/10/13)8289
Swindon Town11598Bristol City(21/09/13)6683Colchester(14/02/14)8032
Brentford11309Wolves(22/02/14)5705Colchester(19/10/13)7319
Port Vale12601Wolves(31/08/13)3734Colchester(11/02/14)6765
Peterborough10026Leyton Orient(02/11/13)4263Walsall(14/02/14)6639
Gillingham8613Leyton Orient(26/12/13)4951Stevenage(26/11/13)6201
Notts County8564Sheffield Utd(11/01/14)3385Oldham(29/10/13)5625
Shrewsbury9510Wolves(21/09/13)4194Leyton Orient(07/01/14)5607
Leyton Orient7123Preston(16/11/13)3928Bristol City(11/02/14)5254
Tranmere6251Gillingham(20/12/13)3777Rotherham(28/01/14)4879
Crewe6820Port Vale(23/11/13)3613MK Dons(21/01/14)4770
Walsall6519Coventry City(26/10/13)3522Oldham(14/01/14)4585
Oldham7180Bradford City(01/12/13)3460Stevenage(11/01/14)4304
Carlisle7934Preston(26/12/13)2969Crewe(26/11/13)4248
Colchester7295Wolves(05/10/13)2597MK Dons(26/11/13)3766
Crawley Town4177Brentford(02/11/13)2407Preston(14/12/13)3274
Stevenage4262Peterborough(22/02/14)2167Swindon Town(14/01/14)2970
Coventry City4905Peterborough(26/12/13)1603Carlisle(18/02/14)2352
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No need to show the lowest attendances
 

ccfc92

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 23, 2014
  • #149
Astute said:
No need to show the lowest attendances
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We are the highest for MK and Walsall, and don't feature on the lowest opponent SBA
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 23, 2014
  • #150
Where did it all go wrong?

Not really the best question to ask is it
 
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Houdi

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 23, 2014
  • #151
rondog1973 said:
I wouldn't call it piss poor, not on a par with clubs I would consider contemporaries though. The thing is, the main reason for this must surely be the constant mediocrity, not a top 6 finish for more than 40 years with one flash in the pan cup success occurring at the time the game of footballs profile was at it's lowest ebb. Just the stimulous of the odd promotion/play off I think would see a fanbase increase.
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Exactly with no top 6 place since 1970 , a stat which I can't believe any other club comes even remotely close to matching, it is frankly amazing that anybody goes. Speaking to some Sheff Wed fans before the game at Rotherham, they were absolutely gobsmacked when we told them of our dubious honour. It would be hard to think of any team in any major sport with such a sustained period of abject failure.
That is one of the factors I don't believe SISU have ever factored into their gamble of going to Northampton, the club simply doesn't have any residual goodwill to draw on with the club's fans. For fans who started following after 1987 there has been no success or even any hint of success.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 23, 2014
  • #152
Why is it surprising anybody goes because we haven't had much success since 1970? If people only want to support when we get success then maybe they should get an Arsenal / Man Utd / Chelsea shirt.
 

ccfc92

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 23, 2014
  • #153
Nick said:
Why is it surprising anybody goes because we haven't had much success since 1970? If people only want to support when we get success then maybe they should get an Arsenal / Man Utd / Chelsea shirt.
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we are a strange bunch
 
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valiant15

New Member
  • Feb 23, 2014
  • #154
Nick said:
Why is it surprising anybody goes because we haven't had much success since 1970? If people only want to support when we get success then maybe they should get an Arsenal / Man Utd / Chelsea shirt.
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What success! !
 

bigfatronssba

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 23, 2014
  • #155
Nick said:
Why is it surprising anybody goes because we haven't had much success since 1970? If people only want to support when we get success then maybe they should get an Arsenal / Man Utd / Chelsea shirt.
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You find it surprising that people want to watch a winning team?

Using your logic there should be no variation across the leagues in the amount of people watching. Why do you suppose Man City get more fans than Bury?
 

ccfc92

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 23, 2014
  • #156
bigfatronssba said:
You find it surprising that people want to watch a winning team?

Using your logic there should be no variation across the leagues in the amount of people watching. Why do you suppose Man City get more fans than Bury?
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the colour of their shirt is nicer?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 23, 2014
  • #157
bigfatronssba said:
You find it surprising that people want to watch a winning team?

Using your logic there should be no variation across the leagues in the amount of people watching. Why do you suppose Man City get more fans than Bury?
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Well I thought about that one and for a minute thought burys population of 60,000 versus 2.5 million might be a factor but on reflection you are probably right.
 

bigfatronssba

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 23, 2014
  • #158
Grendel said:
Well I thought about that one and for a minute thought burys population of 60,000 versus 2.5 million might be a factor but on reflection you are probably right.
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And then there's Leeds which has a population similar to that of Liverpool, yet Liverpool and Everton have a combined attendance of around 70k each weekend, whereas Leeds has about 23k.

Very strange don't you think?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 23, 2014
  • #159
bigfatronssba said:
And then there's Leeds which has a population similar to that of Liverpool, yet Liverpool and Everton have a combined attendance of around 70k each weekend, whereas Leeds has about 23k.

Very strange don't you think?
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Mmmm interesting thought you've convened me. So of course teams like forest Norwich and Southampton in their relegation seasons from the championship must have had massively lower attendances than us - I'm guessing - am I right?
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 23, 2014
  • #160
Grendel said:
Mmmm interesting thought you've convened me. So of course teams like forest Norwich and Southampton in their relegation seasons from the championship must have had massively lower attendances than us - I'm guessing - am I right?
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Southampton escaped the clutches of SISU so they didn't get their support decimated like we have.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 23, 2014
  • #161
Grendel said:
Well I thought about that one and for a minute thought burys population of 60,000 versus 2.5 million might be a factor but on reflection you are probably right.
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So are you now going to let us know how many Manchester fans......both clubs.......were born or live in Manchester? And I suppose our club has the same amount of fans that were not either born or live in Coventry.
 

ccfc92

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 23, 2014
  • #162
Astute said:
So are you now going to let us know how many Manchester fans......both clubs.......were born or live in Manchester? And I suppose our club has the same amount of fans that were not either born or live in Coventry.
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You do regularly see the Chinese wearing Cov tops and subscribing to CCTV
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 23, 2014
  • #163
bigfatronssba said:
You find it surprising that people want to watch a winning team?

Using your logic there should be no variation across the leagues in the amount of people watching. Why do you suppose Man City get more fans than Bury?
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I don't know, maybe some of them are just glory fans and were probably nowhere to be seen when they were lurking in the lower leagues....
 

ccfc92

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 23, 2014
  • #164
Nick said:
I don't know, maybe some of them are just glory fans and were probably nowhere to be seen when they were lurking in the lower leagues....
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Hard to imagine we were relegated with Man City
 

bigfatronssba

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 23, 2014
  • #165
Nick said:
I don't know, maybe some of them are just glory fans and were probably nowhere to be seen when they were lurking in the lower leagues....
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But that can't be possible.

According to some posters on here Ccfc is the only club in the world that attracts more fans when doing well.
 
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Huckerby

Guest
  • Feb 23, 2014
  • #166
bigfatronssba said:
But that can't be possible.

According to some posters on here Ccfc is the only club in the world that attracts more fans when doing well.
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Not to mention the fact that support is predominantly based on population as Grendel implied
 
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