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PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Oct 23, 2021
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What has happened to us we have gone from dominating second halves to bottling second halves
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #2
It was a lovely ride but maybe over achieving?
 
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PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #3
wingy said:
It was a lovely ride but maybe over achieving?
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I dont doubt that we are over achieving but to fall this hard this quick is just mad, why have we just lost composure in second halves
 

Tommo1993

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #4
We’re a solid mid table team who had a good start is all.
 
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COV

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #5
Tommo1993 said:
We’re a solid mid table team who had a good start is all.
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Yeah I agree- upper mid though
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #6
Maybe we need to calm it down a touch.
Been frenetic in approach maybe leads to wastefulness?
Obviously worked for around 5-6games.
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #7
PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
I dont doubt that we are over achieving but to fall this hard this quick is just mad, why have we just lost composure in second halves
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Not sure really but maybe the international break disturbed things IE momentum and a time to think /analyse things.
 
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Marty

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #8
Need a Michael Doyle type to clatter their players, kicking lumps out of ours and ref does nothing.
 
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PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #9
Marty said:
Need a Michael Doyle type to clatter their players, kicking lumps out of ours and ref does nothing.
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I agree
 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #10
The strong start really makes us slightly dizzy .

We are ofcourse still 4th on merit , and that's phenomenal
 
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PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #11
Evo1883 said:
The strong start really makes us slightly dizzy .

We are ofcourse still 4th on merit , and that's phenomenal
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Agree but it would be nice not to bottle games though
 
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procdoc

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #12
What’s happened is we fought back from 2-0 down at Blackburn to earn a decent point, lost at a ground where we ain’t won at since King George was the monarch and Drew at home. Too much bed wetting for my liking!
 
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cc84cov

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #13
Fitness levels ? We was fitter than most early season are teams catching up ? Agree with a solid loan in jan,surprised he didn’t start walker today him and Waghorn would of been bang up for that game,Gyo looks tired.

Still in a great position
 
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Evo1883

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #14
They had an extra day too , and I think it showed a bit , we looked tired which we don't normally do
 
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steve101

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #15
Think we need to get Allen back in. Much more of a threat with him linking the play and breaking with a bit of quality.
 
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Hobo

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #16
I think Derby are more resilient than some of our fans thought, it is still way too early to be dreaming of the play offs - Lets not throw the baby out with the bathwater.
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #17
Hobo said:
I think Derby are more resilient than some of our fans thought, it is still way too early to be dreaming of the play offs - Lets not throw the baby out with the bathwater.
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Play with it all to fight for like we did after our point hit.
 
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PVA

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #18
It's just a case of not taking advantage of our dominance when on top.

Final ball/finish just lacking sometimes.
 
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Samo

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  • Oct 23, 2021
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PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
What has happened to us we have gone from dominating second halves to bottling second halves
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Its an average spell, keep your knickers on, it happens
 
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SkyblueTexan

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #20
PVA said:
It's just a case of not taking advantage of our dominance when on top.

Final ball/finish just lacking sometimes.
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We should have added a second goal when we were on the ascendancy and Derby were on the ropes after the penalty. When you don't put teams away, things cone back to bite you
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Oct 23, 2021
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SkyblueTexan said:
We should have added a second goal when we were on the ascendancy and Derby were on the ropes after the penalty. When you don't put teams away, things cone back to bite you
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For a 10 minute spell it was one way traffic and we should have put the game beyond doubt. That Godden/Gyokeres missed chance was the turning point
 
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SkyblueTexan

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  • Oct 23, 2021
  • #22
I think MR has to take the blame for the second half collapses this week. That's why you build a squad, rotate players and change formations if you need to. Granted we don't have a huge squad, but it's not like we played Bournemouth and West Brom back to back (just Preston and Derby). All teams were playing under the same set of circumstances this week with the quick turnaround.
 

rob9872

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  • Oct 23, 2021
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PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
What has happened to us we have gone from dominating second halves to bottling second halves
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Gint11

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  • Oct 24, 2021
  • #24
It would have been great to see out the win but a points ok. It’s the championship, it’s hard. We are still 4th. Enjoy the ride.

We are so close to being the real deal. Just taking chances when on top and cutting out silly goals.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Oct 24, 2021
  • #25
My take on it is that we have a really good starting 11 and a really good plan A. We have lack of depth and Plan B and teams are now starting to figure us out.

I’m ecstatic with our start, but didn’t really expect to sustain it.

We’ve seen a lot of progress this season already , that’s all we need to maintain.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 24, 2021
  • #26
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
My take on it is that we have a really good starting 11 and a really good plan A. We have lack of depth and Plan B and teams are now starting to figure us out.

I’m ecstatic with our start, but didn’t really expect to sustain it.

We’ve seen a lot of progress this season already , that’s all we need to maintain.
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Which is what you’d expect to start happening, then it’s on the management to rise to the challenge. Unfortunately both games he has got the calls wrong-it happens, but hopefully this week some reflection sees a change in approach at least on the road.
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Oct 24, 2021
  • #27
PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
I dont doubt that we are over achieving but to fall this hard this quick is just mad, why have we just lost composure in second halves
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We drew away at a decent Blackburn side at their place. had one poor second half at PNE. then played pretty well yesterday against a side with 24 hours extra rest, and who had lost 3 out of 13 games. Hardly a 'fall, so hard, so quick'?
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Oct 24, 2021
  • #28
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Which is what you’d expect to start happening, then it’s on the management to rise to the challenge. Unfortunately both games he has got the calls wrong-it happens, but hopefully this week some reflection sees a change in approach at least on the road.
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He has, an whether I agree with his changes or not - he’s at a stage where we haven’t got many other options. Ironically the one difference from last season is that we have 4 good striker options.

I expect us to beat Hull and we can go back to being in the clouds again
 

PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Oct 24, 2021
  • #29
Sky Blue Harry H said:
We drew away at a decent Blackburn side at their place. had one poor second half at PNE. then played pretty well yesterday against a side with 24 hours extra rest, and who had lost 3 out of 13 games. Hardly a 'fall, so hard, so quick'?
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Before the international break we would have probably won all 3 of these games
 
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The Philosopher

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  • Oct 24, 2021
  • #30
It was odd that Waghorn wasn’t given a run out yesterday. Scoring against old club jinx and all that?

Odd. Odd. Odd.
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Oct 24, 2021
  • #31
PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
Before the international break we would have probably won all 3 of these games
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Gyokeres - our key forward, was maimed in the Blackburn game (not anyone's fault but the ref that he didn't give us a penalty for the winner. MR held his hands up for the second half at PNE. Yesterday I put down partly to the extra day's rest Derby had, although again MR could have used the subs differently (hindsight and all that). Still thought it was a half decent performance yesterday.
 

PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Oct 24, 2021
  • #32
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Gyokeres - our key forward, was maimed in the Blackburn game (not anyone's fault but the ref that he didn't give us a penalty for the winner. MR held his hands up for the second half at PNE. Yesterday I put down partly to the extra day's rest Derby had, although again MR could have used the subs differently (hindsight and all that). Still thought it was a half decent performance yesterday.
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Realistically though their goal came from our “offside” goal, so robbed!
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 24, 2021
  • #33
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
He has, an whether I agree with his changes or not - he’s at a stage where we haven’t got many other options. Ironically the one difference from last season is that we have 4 good striker options.

I expect us to beat Hull and we can go back to being in the clouds again
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Games like Reading and Forest he got the subs spot on. Both games this week the changes were too late or the wrong ones. When the pressure’s cranking up and we’re not getting much of the ball we don’t need like for like changes, we need more in midfield. When Sheaf is fresh and playing well he doesn’t need taking off. End of the day all Moore had to do yesterday was pick the ball out of the net once…

You take the lead twice in a week you’d expect to see one of them home. Then again Blackburn probably feel the same and they’ve dropped 3-0 and 2-0 leads at home.
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 24, 2021
  • #34
Tommo1993 said:
We’re a solid mid table team who had a good start is all.
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that’s such illogical reasoning - we have one point out of 6 through poor tactical decision making - that’s nothing to do with being a mid table team
 
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Nick

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  • Oct 24, 2021
  • #35
We're 4th
 
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