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What do we still need? (2 Viewers)

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  • Start date Jul 20, 2024
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Perennial Lurker

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  • Jul 23, 2024
  • #316
Offhegoes said:
Tough signing this CF. We know Simms, and then most possibly Wright will be the CF of choice next season (and not forgetting Tavares) so we need to bring in someone who's not expecting to start, but at the same time can step up when needed. Ntelo seems a good fit for this role, has pace and is direct.
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Like I've said also , the model is to still bring in players to improve and replace when the big stars get sold .
It's the pragmatic way to building a squad for now and the future
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 23, 2024
  • #317
The same bedwetters who rattle on about the 'Brighton model' or the 'Brentford model' are the first ones to complain that every prospective signing does not look like the finished article
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 23, 2024
  • #318
I quite like the signings as we are generally looking like a big, strong and powerful squad with increased pace and drive.
 
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Perennial Lurker

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  • Jul 23, 2024
  • #319
fernandopartridge said:
The same bedwetters who rattle on about the 'Brighton model' or the 'Brentford model' are the first ones to complain that every prospective signing does not look like the finished article
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It's ridiculous isn't it
 
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Perennial Lurker

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  • Jul 23, 2024
  • #320
fernandopartridge said:
I quite like the signings as we are generally looking like a big, strong and powerful squad with increased pace and drive.
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Looking at the training videos it looks like we are going to play more direct this season with a very high intensity to the press
 
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TomRad85

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  • Jul 23, 2024
  • #321
fernandopartridge said:
I quite like the signings as we are generally looking like a big, strong and powerful squad with increased pace and drive.
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Absolute fucking units mate.
 
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The watchmaker

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  • Jul 23, 2024
  • #322
Perennial Lurker said:
Like I've said also , the model is to still bring in players to improve and replace when the big stars get sold .
It's the pragmatic way to building a squad for now and the future
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I generally agree with this. Adi has traditionally taken a lot of the credit for the development of players. Imperative his replacement is up to the job.
 
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BlueSkiesForever

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  • Jul 23, 2024
  • #323
fernandopartridge said:
The same bedwetters who rattle on about the 'Brighton model' or the 'Brentford model' are the first ones to complain that every prospective signing does not look like the finished article
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Maybe it’s just me but it seems well regarded on here that we’re going down that route of buying players and training them up in order to turn a profit. Yes prospective signings are not going to be the finished article but you’d expect some sort of “article” at least, from Ntelo I’ve yet to see anything that suggests he’s a standout above any other £1-2 mil striker. The scouts know best of course, but this is a forum and that’s my view on him, I don’t think he’s shit, I’m just feel a bit meh towards him
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 23, 2024
  • #324
BlueSkiesForever said:
Maybe it’s just me but it seems well regarded on here that we’re going down that route of buying players and training them up in order to turn a profit. Yes prospective signings are not going to be the finished article but you’d expect some sort of “article” at least, from Ntelo I’ve yet to see anything that suggests he’s a standout above any other £1-2 mil striker. The scouts know best of course, but this is a forum and that’s my view on him, I don’t think he’s shit, I’m just feel a bit meh towards him
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You've yet to see (from seeing a clip on YouTube) compared with a scout that has actually watched him play
 

BlueSkiesForever

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  • Jul 23, 2024
  • #325
fernandopartridge said:
You've yet to see (from seeing a clip on YouTube) compared with a scout that has actually watched him play
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Absolutely, hence why I said the scouts know best, I’m just giving my humble shitty view on a fan forum, and even then I’ve just said I’m neutral/meh on him.
 

Hobo

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  • Jul 23, 2024
  • #326
Patience is what most of us need.
But some need a big pair of rubber pants
 

BlueSkiesForever

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  • Jul 23, 2024
  • #327
Hobo said:
Patience is what most of us need.
But some need a big pair of rubber pants
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Trust me I’ve been looking and I can’t find any anywhere
 
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Viktor17

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  • Jul 24, 2024
  • #328
Desperate for that additional midfielder now - sheaf and torp down (torp seems to pick up niggles, hopefully settle down)

biggest priority now.
 

fatso

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  • Jul 24, 2024
  • #329
BlueSkiesForever said:
Really not sold on Ntelo tbh, stats aren’t exactly amazing for a league that’s very poor and I haven’t seen anything from any highlight reels that screams raw talent, just seems to fall over a lot. It could just be me being a pessimistic old fart but I’m really not sure why people always seem to rate the first thing we get linked with.
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You could of said the same about Gyokeres.
He did nothing at Brighton, couldn't get into a poor Swansea side, didn't score here when he first broke into the team, and yet is now valued at £85million.

Talent scouts look at a players potential, has he got the basic traits, strength, power, pace, awareness, determination, has he got good work ethics etc etc etc, and most importantly, can he be improved.

And most importantly from Doug King's point of view, can we increase his value and potentially make a profit.

That's why we arnt just buying players that are already proven at this level, and recently we've got more signings right than wrong.

Trust the process.
 
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Monty

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  • Jul 24, 2024
  • #330
The injuries mounting up do show the frailty of the squad. Reinforces to me that we need another CB and CM.

I have been an advocate for a new forward but wondering if Obikwu can perform that role.

Why buy someone a bit older and more experienced that in effect will hold him back. Need to see how he performs if given the opportunity against the bigger teams now coming up in preseason.

May need to consider if we need more forward cover in the wider positions now with Wright and Tavares carrying knocks which is limiting getting game time into their legs
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jul 24, 2024
  • #331
Monty said:
The injuries mounting up do show the frailty of the squad. Reinforces to me that we need another CB and CM.

I have been an advocate for a new forward but wondering if Obikwu can perform that role.

Why buy someone a bit older and more experienced that in effect will hold him back. Need to see how he performs if given the opportunity against the bigger teams now coming up in preseason.

May need to consider if we need more forward cover in the wider positions now with Wright and Tavares carrying knocks which is limiting getting game time into their legs
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It depends if we’re serious about promotion or not - a new forward is a bigger priority than a CB.
 

Bad Boy

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  • Jul 24, 2024
  • #332
What do we still need..... .
A feckin ambulance with the number of injuries we've got already.
The new goalie has a slight shoulder injury ffs and he hasn't played!!!
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Jul 24, 2024
  • #333
Bad Boy said:
What do we still need..... .
A feckin ambulance with the number of injuries we've got already.
The new goalie has a slight shoulder injury ffs and he hasn't played!!!
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You're going home in an ambulance should be the new club song .
 
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BlueSkiesForever

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 24, 2024
  • #334
fatso said:
You could of said the same about Gyokeres.
He did nothing at Brighton, couldn't get into a poor Swansea side, didn't score here when he first broke into the team, and yet is now valued at £85million.

Talent scouts look at a players potential, has he got the basic traits, strength, power, pace, awareness, determination, has he got good work ethics etc etc etc, and most importantly, can he be improved.

And most importantly from Doug King's point of view, can we increase his value and potentially make a profit.

That's why we arnt just buying players that are already proven at this level, and recently we've got more signings right than wrong.

Trust the process.
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Yeah I know what you mean and I’m not saying Ntelo will be shit, I’m just saying for me personally the jury’s out.

As for Gyokeres, although he didn’t score any goals that season, at least he was having experience playing in the championship with Swansea during the 20/21 season and it was perhaps easier to assess whether he was up to standard or not. With Ntelo, there’s so few highlights and stats and also the fact he’s playing in the Bulgarian league means it’s hard to assess how good he is/isn’t, hence why the jury’s out for me.
 

iflynno

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 24, 2024
  • #335
Backup ST, perhaps another CB/RB unless were going with Lati as CB and Burroughs as RB.

Feel like we still need another defensive minded midfielder.
 
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Monty

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 24, 2024
  • #336
Are we limited now on overseas signings, was reading that there are four ESC slots available, per club which can used for players who would not otherwise qualify for a work permit under the new post-Brexit rules.
So for us is the MVE, Wright, Sakamoto and Dovin?
If so can we get any more overseas players?
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Jul 24, 2024
  • #337
Monty said:
Are we limited now on overseas signings, was reading that there are four ESC slots available, per club which can used for players who would not otherwise qualify for a work permit under the new post-Brexit rules.
So for us is the MVE, Wright, Sakamoto and Dovin?
If so can we get any more overseas players?
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Wright would have qualified wouldn't he as hes played international for USA?
 
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Monty

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 24, 2024
  • #338
Ccfcisparks said:
Wright would have qualified wouldn't he as hes played international for USA?
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So maybe we have one slot available then? Dovin was born in England, so not sure if that helps. Just something that struck me whist ponndering if we could hijack Blackburns transfer of Yuki Ohasi
 

BlueSkiesForever

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 24, 2024
  • #339
Just wondering if anyone’s thoughts have changed since the injuries last night? Who do we still need if we’re to aim for promotion?

Personally think we really need another CM, ST, maybe CB (and obviously would still love a RB or LB), I doubt we’ll see more than 3 signings though?
 

Balli001

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 24, 2024
  • #340
Ccfcisparks said:
Wright would have qualified wouldn't he as hes played international for USA?
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And dovin as he was born here I think is fine too
 
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