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What’s your expectation for the new guy? (3 Viewers)

  • Thread starter shmmeee
  • Start date Nov 10, 2024
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What’s the bare minimum you expect from the new manager?

  • Avoid relegation

    Votes: 15 5.8%
  • Comfortably mid table

    Votes: 38 14.7%
  • Top half

    Votes: 43 16.7%
  • Top ten

    Votes: 67 26.0%
  • Playoffs

    Votes: 86 33.3%
  • Autos

    Votes: 9 3.5%

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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #176
Nick said:
Again, we have wasted a 3rd of the season.
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We're 17th, not cut adrift with one win in 24th place.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #177
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
We're 17th, not cut adrift with one win in 24th place.
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Yeah so that's why expectations now will be slightly different to the start of the season.

Obviously at the start of the next season the expectation will be there if not higher.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #178
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
We're 17th, not cut adrift with one win in 24th place.
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Plymouth then are also in the running for the play offs
 
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Bigelvesy

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #179
Nick said:
Yeah so that's why expectations now will be slightly different to the start of the season.

Obviously at the start of the next season the expectation will be there if not higher.
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Grendel said:
Plymouth then are also in the running for the play offs
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Plymouth barely scraped survival last year, got promoted from the league below the year before
We finished 9th last year and were play off finalists the year before. The two are not the same.

Anyone comfortable with midtable now is going to need to explain to me what the point in sacking Robins in November was. Especially considering that anyone replacing him will flat out not have the record he does.

The only reason to sack him now, is because you gamble on the new person still delivering the start of the season target. Else we could have given Robins the season and said goodbye.
 
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skybluecam

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #180
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I'm not surprised at all at the correlation between the people that wanted Robins out, and those that are willing to give the new manager lowered expectations.

If you're going to sack Robins, the long-standing, successful manager of CCFC, then the new manager has to produce something better. If we aren't aiming for the playoffs, then what was the point.
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And I'm not surprised the feverish Robins loyalists are now setting unrealistic expectations for the new manager so they can inevitably call him a "failure" and pat themselves on the back for being right.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #181
Grendel said:
Plymouth then are also in the running for the play offs
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Behave.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #182
skybluecam said:
And I'm not surprised the feverish Robins loyalists are now setting unrealistic expectations for the new manager so they can inevitably call him a "failure" and pat themselves on the back for being right.
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Doing better than they guy you were sacked for now “unrealistic expectations”.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #183
skybluecam said:
And I'm not surprised the feverish Robins loyalists are now setting unrealistic expectations for the new manager so they can inevitably call him a "failure" and pat themselves on the back for being right.
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That would be 80-90% of the fan base. Perhaps you haven't realised that you are in the overwhelming minority?

Not many people wanted a new manager, but if you're going to sack the one that has been here for 7.5 years with several trips to Wembley and two promotions, the person that is going to replace them needs to be something special. Especially if you are doing it early enough for the old manager not to have the chance to turn it around - of which it was showing signs of life of.

I know you are trying really hard to run around this forum and have a pop at anyone who wanted to keep Robins, mainly because you've overdone it on the 'Robins out' shit for a while, but it is pretty boring.
 
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Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #184
Robins has taken us from here to playoffs already so that has to be minimum expectation.
 
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Marty

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #185
Play offs, would like to see fast attacking football. We have the players for it.
 

Darth Robins

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #186
shmmeee said:
Doing better than they guy you were sacked for now “unrealistic expectations”.
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31 games to make up the 8 point gap to the play-offs? Surely there's no manager head coach who could do such a thing. Better write the season off and try again next year.
 
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Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #187
I’d say playoffs justifies the sacking.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #188
Ring Of Steel said:
I’d say playoffs justifies the sacking.
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With respect fans who actually attend matches should be the overall judge for the rest of the season.

If Rooney is sacked would top 6 be the expectation.
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #189
Grendel said:
With respect fans who actually attend matches should be the overall judge for the rest of the season.

If Rooney is sacked would top 6 be the expectation.
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It was only a matter of time before the ‘Robins Out’ side started to immediately downplay any expectations for the new manager. If you don’t think that playoffs need to be the expectation then not much more to say.

as for Wayne Rooney, one of the more entertaining Grendel deflections
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #190
Grendel said:
With respect fans who actually attend matches should be the overall judge for the rest of the season.

If Rooney is sacked would top 6 be the expectation.
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I forgot to ask- what is your stance? What is your expectation for the new manager?
 

Sky Blue Harry H

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #191
Bare minimum for me is avoid relegation. How a lot think the bare minimum for a new manager is play offs. based on what has gone on so far (and with our top striker maybe out for a while) is crazy to me. I'm wondering if people have considered what 'bare minimum' means, before voting.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #192
Ring Of Steel said:
I forgot to ask- what is your stance? What is your expectation for the new manager?
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The only wins we’ve had this season is when Wright was on his game.

We’ve lost to absolute dross at home.

If Wright is out for a few weeks we are in trouble - play offs without him as a bare minimum is just embarrassing
 
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Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #193
Grendel said:
The only wins we’ve had this season is when Wright was on his game.

We’ve lost to absolute dross at home.

If Wright is out for a few weeks we are in trouble - play offs without him as a bare minimum is just embarrassing
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and your answer is?

I mean you wanted this, you’ve been demanding it, surely you had some kind of expectation as to what would happen?
 
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torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #194
shmmeee said:
Doing better than they guy you were sacked for now “unrealistic expectations”.
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There's a lot of goal post shifting here, isnt there? "Feverish Robins loyalists". Haha. I thought we were all naturally loyal to our manager and players?

Not sure why some are struggling with this. We are underperforming, King has pulled the plug. If the new guy isn't going to improve on what he thought Robins would have achieved this season then really what is the point in sacking the incumbent, who is pretty much universally loved by the fan base?

No one will mind the pain and upheaval of this if we get into the play offs, or just miss out after having a decent season. No one.
 
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bigfatronssba

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #195
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Bare minimum for me is avoid relegation. How a lot think the bare minimum for a new manager is play offs. based on what has gone on so far (and with our top striker maybe out for a while) is crazy to me. I'm wondering if people have considered what 'bare minimum' means, before voting.
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We got rid of a manger who for the past 3 seasons has had us in the play off mix.

Any new manager that can't do that is a step backwards
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #196
Ring Of Steel said:
and your answer is?

I mean you wanted this, you’ve been demanding it, surely you had some kind of expectation as to what would happen?
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I think with robins still in charge we’d have been in severe trouble so mid table this season will be an achievement in the same way when robins took over from thorn
 

Jamesimus

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #197
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I'm not surprised at all at the correlation between the people that wanted Robins out, and those that are willing to give the new manager lowered expectations.

If you're going to sack Robins, the long-standing, successful manager of CCFC, then the new manager has to produce something better. If we aren't aiming for the playoffs, then what was the point.
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I didn’t want Robins out and I’m willing to give the manager lowered expectations initially

It’s just being pragmatic. The situation has changed so I’m changing with it.
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #198
Grendel said:
I think with robins still in charge we’d have been in severe trouble so mid table this season will be an achievement in the same way when robins took over from thorn
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so you want someone who will do worse than Robins has done, and someone who can take us to about where Robins already had us the day he was sacked.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #199
Ring Of Steel said:
so you want someone who will do worse than Robins has done, and someone who can rake us to about where Robins already had us the day he was sacked.
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I think if he’d stayed there would be a severe risk of relegation
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #200
Grendel said:
I think if he’d stayed there would be a severe risk of relegation
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i think that’s clearly ridiculous, but that’s your view
 
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torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #201
Jamesimus said:
I didn’t want Robins out and I’m willing to give the manager lowered expectations initially

It’s just being pragmatic. The situation has changed so I’m changing with it.
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Bizarre. Don't get that
 
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Matt smith

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #202
Grendel said:
The only wins we’ve had this season is when Wright was on his game.

We’ve lost to absolute dross at home.

If Wright is out for a few weeks we are in trouble - play offs without him as a bare minimum is just embarrassing
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Absolutely correct

if wright is out for a prolonged period you’d have to take survival

we are a one man team going forward
 

skybluecam

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #203
shmmeee said:
Doing better than they guy you were sacked for now “unrealistic expectations”.
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Doing better than Robins would be finishing 16th
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #204
bigfatronssba said:
We got rid of a manger who for the past 3 seasons has had us in the play off mix.

Any new manager that can't do that is a step backwards
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seems fair
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #205
skybluecam said:
Doing better than Robins would be finishing 16th
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could you attempt to move the goalposts any further? We finished 9th last season, we are only in November.
 

Matt smith

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #206
skybluecam said:
Doing better than Robins would be finishing 16th
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Who’s going to score any goals for us to win games now?

16th would be a good season
 
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Darth Robins

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #207
Matt smith said:
Absolutely correct

if wright is out for a prolonged period you’d have to take survival

we are a one man team going forward
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Funny, I could have sworn we'd changed the entire club structure explicitly to avoid being dependent on one man.
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #208
Darth Robins said:
Funny, I could have sworn we'd changed the entire club structure explicitly to avoid being dependent on one man.
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this is where we will start to see the double standards start to ooze out.
 

Matt smith

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #209
Darth Robins said:
Funny, I could have sworn we'd changed the entire club structure explicitly to avoid being dependent on one man.
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If haji plays well we play well

if he doesn’t play or doesn’t play well we don’t

it’s pretty simple

play off talk is embarrassing when we’re one point off the bottom 3
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #210
torchomatic said:
Bizarre. Don't get that
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Nor me.

For what it’s worth I think we will improve- a lot- I just think that it would have happened under Robins anyway, just as it has done every other season. To now be saying that we’re ok with avoiding relegation, it’s pretty cringeworthy.
 
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