Ring Of Steel
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this is what they wanted after all.
It's most likely worse than that, taking a longer term view. Robins' tenure here for so many years was pretty much unique. The way it works across English football is that managers are churned on a very regular basis. If you don't deliver success within a couple of years (statistically most likely because every year the vast majority of teams don't get promoted or win a trophy) you are deemed a failure and replaced, and the cycle begins again.
The club has now signed up for that tombola, which is the natural consequence of removing Robins, and I assume those who wanted him out are cool with it.
you do realise the poll is titled "bare minimum" right?What I’m getting here is a bunch of bedwetters have written the season off after ten games and basically see the next nine months as an extended pre season.
No chance that's the minimum.One job keep us in the championship
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If we don't get into the play offs then the new manager will have failed, because clearly Doug won't settle for anything less, otherwise he'd have kept Robins .I think it is quite a stretch to say Robins has made playoffs before therefore the new guy must do better than that in his first part season.
As the saying goes “Past performance is not indicative of future results” and this is never truer than in football. Who knows whether Robins would have turned this around or whether the wheels were coming off.
To my mind we are currently 9-13 points away from playoff spots. If we were to finish the season 9-13 points below playoff spots then the new guy will have demonstrated playoff form. Ie. We would be performing as well as the playoff teams. Anything better than that would be nearer auto form.
I worry an unfair judgement will be made on whether we do or do not make playoffs. The need for bedding in of new coaches and styles may take several games at minimum.
Certainly we were trending towards a relegation battle under Robins.One job keep us in the championship
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King will view not reaching them next season as being a failure. He got rid of Robins because he'd lost confidence in him in the long-term.If we don't get into the play offs then the new manager will have failed, because clearly Doug won't settle for anything less, otherwise he'd have kept Robins .
, so we aren’t repeating the same ridiculous meltdown on here that we’ve had this autumn.
He sacked him because he felt that there was a real danger of us being relegated this season.If we don't get into the play offs then the new manager will have failed, because clearly Doug won't settle for anything less, otherwise he'd have kept Robins .
Stop us being relegated.I think realistically now, top ten would be a decent come back from this position. Considering our defensive frailty and injury to a key forward.
The bare minimum has to be staying in the division. Mid table is the limit for these jokersI think realistically now, top ten would be a decent come back from this position. Considering our defensive frailty and injury to a key forward.
Has to be higher than 9th surely. If 9th and an FA Cup semi final wasn’t good enough for Robins to keep his job then surely the new guy has to do better with a supposedly better squad.
I guess it was more the results and performance after the semi final, Derby, Swansea, Norwich , Shef Wed, Stoke performances were terrible.Has to be higher than 9th surely. If 9th and an FA Cup semi final wasn’t good enough for Robins to keep his job then surely the new guy has to do better with a supposedly better squad.
Im not sure this is quite right.Regarding expectations, we already have a clear yardstick for the new Head Coach don’t we?
After 7 years hauling the club up by its bootstraps, Robins put together his new coaching team in July. Nine league games later, the first thread calling for Robins to be sacked appeared on here. After ten games two more were posted, and we had a series of polls and even a thread for choosing his successor IIRC. Around the same time, King appears to have been thinking along the same lines, with or without advice from anyone else. He wielded the axe in early November after 14 league games (when we were two or three results short of a strong position in what King describes as a “really compact league”). He has clearly pointed the finger at the new coaching setup and cited the risk to the club of relegation.
So assuming the new guy comes in before the next match, on the 9 or 10 game benchmark they’d have until New Year’s Day to satisfy some people on here that they are the right choice, or the [insert name here] Out! threads will begin. If we took it to King’s 14 games, the new regime would be judged on results / performance and change in league position by the end of January (or by 8th Feb to see if his required cup run was being delivered?).
I’m sure people will stay a bit calmer and give the next person a bit more time if things aren’t going too well. Performance has been hampered by some unfilled places in the squad, so there’s a need for a couple of extra players in the January window. The new guy needs a chance to get the benefit of bringing those in.
Obviously we all hope and expect that we’re flying up the league by then, so we aren’t repeating the same ridiculous meltdown on here that we’ve had this autumn.
Tbh, heads should of rolled for completely pissing so much of the Gyokeres and Hamer up the wall on poor quality players.I’m no
Im not sure this is quite right.
MR was not fired because of the first 9 or 14 matches.
He was fired because our league form was very mixed last year, he fell out with Adi and was not prepared to try and repair the relationship, he put in place an inexperienced coaching structure below him, and resisted the opportunity to change it when it wasn’t working.
The new manager will be given longer to improve us by DK than I suspect the fans will give him.
He surely isn’t on that?Tbh, heads should of rolled for completely pissing so much of the Gyokeres and Hamer up the wall on poor quality players.
Honestly, spending £10+ million on Kitchen, EMC and Torp is criminal, and it didn't stop there.
Paying a shit defender like Binks £30k a week is just embarrassing.
Ultimately someone had to pay the price,
and hopefully others will go too.
Its true though? Why sack your manager for a lower league position?
The way you guys have dropped your standards just so you don’t look silly for wanting robins out is quite something.
Nick’s even positive in match threads now!
The way you guys have dropped your standards just so you don’t look silly for wanting robins out is quite something.
I didn’t want him out but can recognise this squad has bigger flaws in it than any of us anticipated. So even outperforming Robins by 50% we would still be in the bottom half. It would still be a higher league position than we were on course for.Its true though? Why sack your manager for a lower league position?
The way you guys have dropped your standards just so you don’t look silly for wanting robins out is quite something.
Nick’s even positive in match threads now!
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