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What’s your expectation for the new guy? (2 Viewers)

  • Thread starter shmmeee
  • Start date Nov 10, 2024
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What’s the bare minimum you expect from the new manager?

  • Avoid relegation

    Votes: 15 5.8%
  • Comfortably mid table

    Votes: 38 14.7%
  • Top half

    Votes: 43 16.7%
  • Top ten

    Votes: 67 26.0%
  • Playoffs

    Votes: 86 33.3%
  • Autos

    Votes: 9 3.5%

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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #1
What it says. What will justify the sacking for you?

Talking this season specifically.
 
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Cally Fedora

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #2
The expectation has to be play offs. That is the target Robins had. That is why he’s gone. I fear we’re now moving to an early 80’s / early 00’s model of a manager a year. That saw us in L2.
 
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SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #3
Top 10, that will require play off form to achieve a top 10 position from here.

Play offs will require close to automatic form which in my view is unreasonable to expect.


Edit: I didn't want Robins out so i guess i shouldn't have answered this or voted in the poll?
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #4
Top 10 this season, play offs next - bare minimum 12th this season

I don’t think we have a bad squad in terms of quality, couple of tweaks in January we’ll be fine regardless of manager
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #5
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
Top 10, that will require play off form to achieve a top 10 position from here.

Play offs will require close to automatic form which in my view is unreasonable to expect.


Edit: I didn't want Robins out so i guess i shouldn't have answered this or voted in the poll?
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We’re seven points off the playoffs with 30 odd games to go.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #6
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Top 10 this season, play offs next - bare minimum 12th this season

I don’t think we have a bad squad in terms of quality, couple of tweaks in January we’ll be fine regardless of manager
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Interesting you’d accept a step back this season
 
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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #7
Don't see how anyone can say anything less than play offs as a minimum

King pulled the trigger very early and only 7 points off the play offs after just 14 games.

The idea that a new manager will get a free hit this season to build for next season seems crazy to me. It's not how football works at the best of times. If a manager with 7 years of incredible success gets 14 games there's no way the replacement comes in without very high expectations from King. If that wasn't the case it would make the sacking of Robins and even crazier decision
 
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SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #8
shmmeee said:
We’re seven points off the playoffs with 30 odd games to go.
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Yea 7 points in 32 games.

So we have to gain 0.22 points per game on the top 6 to make the play offs.

If plays offs is 75 points that's around 1.63 points, which means we have to go at 1.85 points per match to make the play offs.

Over a full season 1.85 points a match would give us 85 points which is top 2/3 standard. People have done it in the past but i wouldn't say it is expected.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #9
shmmeee said:
Interesting you’d accept a step back this season
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It’s not a step back - it’s a reassessment of where we’re currently at. We know we’re still a CM short which can only be addressed in January.

that being said roughly 72 points needed - 56 from 31 is 1.8 PPG. As you’ve alluded to, entirely doable
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #10
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
It’s not a step back - it’s a reassessment of where we’re currently at. We know we’re still a CM short which can only be addressed in January.

that being said roughly 72 points needed - 56 from 31 is 1.8 games. As you’ve alluded to, entirely doable
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We’re not much worse than the season we got into the POs. Play off teams tend to have spurts of auto form and spurts of relegation form rather than consistent playoff form IMO
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #11
I was mostly interested in what those who wanted a new guy think he can do. I’d have expected a belief this squad should be playoffs and so any manager should get there as a bare minimum.

I think a general barometer of the fanbase is good too but suspect those that didn’t want robins gone will have higher expectations of a replacement.
 
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covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #12
Can't vote as it's only open to those that wanted robins out. I can't imagine many people can vote. Should have opened it up to everyone
 

TomRad85

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #13
There's no way Robins was getting us play offs this season ffs. I'd want to be finishing top half, with much improved home form as that has frankly been disastrous. Next season I'd want us starting well and making a strong go at the play offs.
Next seasons relegated teams will be much better than what came down this season which makes what has happened this season doubly disappointing.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #14
covcity4life said:
Can't vote as it's only open to those that wanted robins out. I can't imagine many people can vote. Should have opened it up to everyone
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We already know your expectations. 4-0 every game with sexy football. Ideally fronted by someone you’ve seen on Sky.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #15
TomRad85 said:
There's no way Robins was getting us play offs this season ffs. I'd want to be finishing top half, with much improved home form as that has frankly been disastrous. Next season I'd want us starting well and making a strong go at the play offs.
Next seasons relegated teams will be much better than what came down this season which makes what has happened this season doubly disappointing.
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Do you think the pos are out of reach? Only 8 (I forgot about the games yesterday) off. They’re very reachable on decent form.
 
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covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #16
shmmeee said:
We already know your expectations. 4-0 every game with sexy football. Ideally fronted by someone you’ve seen on Sky.
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Hair of the dog!
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #17
This season or long term ?

This season I'd be happy to cement a mid table finish and progress over the next couple seasons back towards a playoff/ promotion spot .


(Realism)
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #18
covcity4life said:
Hair of the dog!
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Ask her to shave and be nicer to your girlfriend.
 

TomRad85

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #19
shmmeee said:
Do you think the pos are out of reach? Only 8 (I forgot about the games yesterday) off. They’re very reachable on decent form.
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It would take some turnaround in fortunes. I do think the league is poorer than usual so never say never but we'd have to really get motoring. If Wright is out long term then absolutely no chance.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #20
Evo1883 said:
This season or long term ?

This season I'd be happy to cement a mid table finish and progress over the next couple seasons back towards a playoff/ promotion spot .


(Realism)
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This season.

I think our current form puts us midtable, recent results look fine.
 
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ExmouthNeil

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #21
There's a chance we'll see two more managers by the end of next season...
Sack the first one and it's a lot easier to keep pulling the trigger after.

Prepare for instability...
 
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SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #22
shmmeee said:
I was mostly interested in what those who wanted a new guy think he can do. I’d have expected a belief this squad should be playoffs and so any manager should get there as a bare minimum.

I think a general barometer of the fanbase is good too but suspect those that didn’t want robins gone will have higher expectations of a replacement.
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I mean it's all relatives to the person expectations then isn't it, some will say we were going down or going to be in a relegation fight this season so anything above that is justifying it.

Personally for me, I expect the new guy to show play off form between now and the end of the season and then we finish where ever we finish in the table. But i didn't want Robins sacked anyway.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #23
shmmeee said:
We’re not much worse than the season we got into the POs. Play off teams tend to have spurts of auto form and spurts of relegation form rather than consistent playoff form IMO
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shmmeee said:
I was mostly interested in what those who wanted a new guy think he can do. I’d have expected a belief this squad should be playoffs and so any manager should get there as a bare minimum.

I think a general barometer of the fanbase is good too but suspect those that didn’t want robins gone will have higher expectations of a replacement.
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I take your point. It still should be the main goal.

Will be intrigued as to how long Wright is out for, that’ll seriously impact us
 
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Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #24
shmmeee said:
This season.

I think our current form puts us midtable, recent results look fine.
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I think we can do better but I won't be calling for heads at a mid table finish

Il be honest I don't really know what to expect but generally I'm more than happy normally to give a manager time
 
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Evo1883

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  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #25
I probably shouldn't have replied the thread as it's not aimed at me , I hadn't engaged my brain tbh
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #26
I think play offs is a reasonable target at this point in the season. I’d accept top half with a significantly improved style of play and level of performance. But then next season I’d be looking at top four by Christmas.

If there’s no turn around, I’d sack him before Jan TBH. At this point better to quickly accept you’ve made the wrong decision and move on to the next gamble.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #27
Evo1883 said:
I probably shouldn't have replied the thread as it's not aimed at me , I hadn't engaged my brain tbh
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Changed the title. Was needlessly specific.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #28
Evo1883 said:
This season or long term ?

This season I'd be happy to cement a mid table finish and progress over the next couple seasons back towards a playoff/ promotion spot .


(Realism)
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This is probably realistic, IMO.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #29
shmmeee said:
If there’s no turn around, I’d sack him before Jan TBH. At this point better to quickly accept you’ve made the wrong decision and move on to the next gamble.
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We’re not going to sack them after a month in charge.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #30
Sick Boy said:
We’re not going to sack them after a month in charge.
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If there’s no improvement I would. It’s a numbers game finding the right fit now. No sense in holding on for another 18 months and spending millions in the hope of a turnaround.
 

Darth Robins

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #31
Robins got us to the play-off final and I've been told we needed to upgrade so anything less than the autos is a failure for me, Clive.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #32
shmmeee said:
If there’s no improvement I would. It’s a numbers game finding the right fit now. No sense in holding on for another 18 months and spending millions in the hope of a turnaround.
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I really hate the thought of spiralling and becoming a Cardiff or stoke

Just loved the fact we had stability
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #33
shmmeee said:
If there’s no improvement I would. It’s a numbers game finding the right fit now. No sense in holding on for another 18 months and spending millions in the hope of a turnaround.
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Put it this way - I feel sorry for our next manager, through no fault of his own. He’s got to hit the ground running
 
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shmmeee

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  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #34
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Put it this way - I feel sorry for our next manager, through no fault of his own. He’s got to hit the ground running
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If Lampard is announced at the forum I’d love someone to ask him “You’re taking over after the most popular and successful manager in a generation, under an owner who has shown himself to be impulsive and meddling, with fans who don’t want you and expect success as a bare minimum. Why?”
 
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dadgad

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  • Nov 10, 2024
  • #35
Playoffs obviously
 
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