Ring Of Steel
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It must also be said however that HR was not even in the same league as those grounds.
Nail on head
I just don’t see it with the old grounds personally. Speaks to a time before I was into football.
I’m not saying the Ricoh is some amazing stadium, like others I think they’re made through experiences the Ricoh has lacked. I was more curious as to whether the proponents of the “soulless bowl” stuff were against all stadium bowls, or if there was something specific about the Ricoh design they didn’t like.
After all, I’d expect us to end up as a bowl at the new ground, even if not straight away. It’s just the most efficient use of space.
Oh I don’t know Old Trafford emptied very quickly last time we were there one minute they were there next minute they were gone.Exits weren’t such a huge problem when the west stand was built. There was a huge exit onto the pitch if needed. It wasn’t until the introduction of ‘hooligan fencing’ in the 70’s that safety would become a real issue. Yes, it took ages to get out, but that isn’t any different to large crowds in any stadium even today.
I actually like the new Spurs stadium, in the main it's jut a bowl but what they've done with the south stand being one big single tier ready to be converted into safe standing is great. They've also taken advantage of new technologies to mean the stands are steeper and closer to the pitch. It's also on the site go WHL meaning it has all the infrastructure around it. It's possible to make good new stadiums we just wen't through a period of 20 years or so only building shite in this country.I just don’t see it with the old grounds personally. Speaks to a time before I was into football.
I’m not saying the Ricoh is some amazing stadium, like others I think they’re made through experiences the Ricoh has lacked. I was more curious as to whether the proponents of the “soulless bowl” stuff were against all stadium bowls, or if there was something specific about the Ricoh design they didn’t like.
After all, I’d expect us to end up as a bowl at the new ground, even if not straight away. It’s just the most efficient use of space.
Sorry Craig all those grounds are fucking crap same as that shithole we play at nowI disagree, Highfield Road was a football stadium, the ricoh arena is an events arena.. I prefer brammel Lane, Portman Road, goodison Park, Upton Park (before knocked down), fratton Park much more than I prefer our generic bowl
I actually find the ricoh to be one of the worst generic bowls too, such a boring, soulless mundane stadium.
I just don’t see it with the old grounds personally. Speaks to a time before I was into football.
I’m not saying the Ricoh is some amazing stadium, like others I think they’re made through experiences the Ricoh has lacked. I was more curious as to whether the proponents of the “soulless bowl” stuff were against all stadium bowls, or if there was something specific about the Ricoh design they didn’t like.
After all, I’d expect us to end up as a bowl at the new ground, even if not straight away. It’s just the most efficient use of space.
Warwick Uni.highfield road will always be home to me in my youth
ricoh will always be home to me in past 15 years
birmingham will never be home
sisu's move next.......
Well Warwick Uni will have a stadium,we mabe piggy back onto that.Still.... we are getting a brand new stadium fit for the Premier league at Warwick Uni eh lads?
Well, it was for 34 yearsIt must also be said however that HR was not even in the same league as those grounds.
Best ground...Goodison Park, still is. Just something about it, steeped in tradition alas soon to be vacated, bloody shame.I think it is the early 00s vintage that people have an issue with. Those mentioned and also Cardiff and one or two others. They got them completely wrong. For me, if you are going to build a new stadium you should try to tick as many of the following boxes as possible. 1. Central location or as close to former ground as possible. 2. Some asymmetry and variation to the elevations. 3. Creation of an identifiable 'end' for fans to adopt and create new memories in. 4. Fans should be as close to the pitch as possible. The Ricoh failed to tick any of those boxes really. Some manage it, the new WHL is decent.
Give me HR, the Dell, Victoria Ground, Baseball Ground, Roker Park, Ayresome Park and Ninian Park over their replacements any day.
It most certainly is. In the same way , the demolition of Upton park was an absolute tragedy .Best ground...Goodison Park, still is. Just something about it, steeped in tradition alas soon to be vacated, bloody shame.
It most certainly is. In the same way , the demolition of Upton park was an absolute tragedy .
Love it.Some people like the pre match pints, some people like the post match pints, some people like the tension that builds on the walk up to the stadium, the singing at away fans along the way, some people like the memories of the place: 50,000 vs Wolves, watching your all time favourite player, being small and overwhelmed but feeling safe because your Dad's huge hand is crushing yours, returning the gesture years later when your old man is too frail to get up there on his own. Highfield Road had all of that because of it's central location, the length of time we were there, and that our best periods as a team were at that location.
As a stadium the Ricoh is fine and if it was built on the same site as HR there would be a lot less arguing. Not many people enjoy a drive to an out of town stadium, to watch Newport, with 5000 other people who will all go their separate ways as soon as the final whistle goes. Win or lose the bars around HR would still have plenty of people in after a game and even though it would only need a few 100 to fill them, it would give the impression of community close the stadium.
It's a real pity about the lack of rental agreement and then BHCD for this season as there would have been many good memories created this season adding soul to the Ricoh bowl. 20k in there week in week out, playing Robinsball and getting results and people would slowly start to fill up the 'on the pitch' memory banks. Not sure there's too much that can be done about the peripheral bits because of the location though.
So Swan lane at the back of the Spion Kop hampered all attempts at stadium redevelopment and expansion at that end of the ground for decades, resulting in at least two odd shaped stands being built to accommodate the road out the back
That‘s a great idea in theory but space wasn’t in abundance at the west terrace end, either. Moving the pitch 30 yards in that direction would have reduced capacity at the west end and ruined sight lines. Swan Lane is probably wider than traffic necessitates, the best solution in my opinion would have been to pinch around 4 metres from Swan Lane and build further back on the Main Stand end of the terrace. A pedestrian walkway could have been provided under the stand on that side. The issue of space only affected a 25-30% section of that end as Swan Lane arced away from the ground towards the Mercer’s anyway. I guess even in those days the club’s relationship with the council wasn’t great enough to achieve what other clubs like Wolves have in redirecting traffic to benefit stadium development.So Swan lane at the back of the Spion Kop hampered all attempts at stadium redevelopment and expansion at that end of the ground for decades, resulting in at least two odd shaped stands being built to accommodate the road out the backfor no real reason.
If they’d just picked it up and moved it 30 yards back then, we could have built a Kop like the one at Anfield
Do Leicester fans still pine for Filbert Street?
serious question by the way, I genuinely don’t know the answer. I didn’t care for the Crisp Bowl whenever I’ve been there but wasn’t fond of Filbert St either.
I wish that we had stayed at Highfield Road, but that is mainly because of all of the fall out with the Ricoh resulting in us not having a ground and having to play at St Andrews, something that would have been unbelievable had you spoken to a City fan in 2005.I think it is the early 00s vintage that people have an issue with. Those mentioned and also Cardiff and one or two others. They got them completely wrong. For me, if you are going to build a new stadium you should try to tick as many of the following boxes as possible. 1. Central location or as close to former ground as possible. 2. Some asymmetry and variation to the elevations. 3. Creation of an identifiable 'end' for fans to adopt and create new memories in. 4. Fans should be as close to the pitch as possible. The Ricoh failed to tick any of those boxes really. Some manage it, the new WHL is decent.
Give me HR, the Dell, Victoria Ground, Baseball Ground, Roker Park, Ayresome Park and Ninian Park over their replacements any day.
Do Leicester fans still pine for Filbert Street?
serious question by the way, I genuinely don’t know the answer. I didn’t care for the Crisp Bowl whenever I’ve been there but wasn’t fond of Filbert St either.
I've also been Goodison on many occasions...... 6 or 7 visits as an away fan, but i've also been in all the stands including the family enclosure for various games with mates & family etc.
Whilst obviously there are some shit views, about 39,000 folk have no obstruction whatsoever.
Back in the 90's I went in the naughty Gladys street end a couple times....the only restricted view there was due to the massive thick clouds of weed smoke.....
....and when they sing, that place rocks......its no wonder the red shite call them the noisy neighbours.....no flag waving chinese & irish tourist fans in that place.
Its a fantastic ground.
I was just pointing out that on that old map there are no buildings shown on the other side of Swan Lane,That‘s a great idea in theory but space wasn’t in abundance at the west terrace end, either. Moving the pitch 30 yards in that direction would have reduced capacity at the west end and ruined sight lines. Swan Lane is probably wider than traffic necessitates, the best solution in my opinion would have been to pinch around 4 metres from Swan Lane and build further back on the Main Stand end of the terrace. A pedestrian walkway could have been provided under the stand on that side. The issue of space only affected a 25-30% section of that end as Swan Lane arced away from the ground towards the Mercer’s anyway. I guess even in those days the club’s relationship with the council wasn’t great enough to achieve what other clubs like Wolves have in redirecting traffic to benefit stadium development.
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