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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #841
Exactly a year since I started, with 6 and a half stone lost along with 12 inches from my waist. Determined to lose the remaining 3 I set out to, but it looks like I have to accept that might take just as long.
 
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Nick

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #842
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Exactly a year since I started, with 6 and a half stone lost along with 12 inches from my waist. Determined to lose the remaining 3 I set out to, but it looks like I have to accept that might take just as long.
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That's some going in a year!

How do you feel? (Other than smaller?)
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #843
Nick said:
That's some going in a year!

How do you feel? (Other than smaller?)
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It feels liberating is the best word I can use. Being able to play sport like everyone else is a massive plus, but so is being able to fit clothes in regular shops and not getting out of breath climbing the stairs.

That’s how bad it had become
 
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Nick

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #844
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It feels liberating is the best word I can use. Being able to play sport like everyone else is a massive plus, but so is being able to fit clothes in regular shops and not getting out of breath climbing the stairs.

That’s how bad it had become
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There loads of football type things now, not sure if that's your sport. Maybe you love the squash or something!
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Aug 8, 2024
  • #845
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It feels liberating is the best word I can use. Being able to play sport like everyone else is a massive plus, but so is being able to fit clothes in regular shops and not getting out of breath climbing the stairs.

That’s how bad it had become
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what about mentally? I found that my moods & emotions were way better having got fit
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 9, 2024
  • #846
Nick said:
There loads of football type things now, not sure if that's your sport. Maybe you love the squash or something!
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Football and cricket mostly. I used to play club hockey in my early 20s, might look into that again
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 9, 2024
  • #847
Ring Of Steel said:
what about mentally? I found that my moods & emotions were way better having got fit
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I think the word ‘liberating’ covers that. Been stuck at this current weight for months now though which is really frustrating.
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Aug 9, 2024
  • #848
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I think the word ‘liberating’ covers that. Been stuck at this current weight for months now though which is really frustrating.
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I hear you. Sometimes your body takes over, and if you’ve given it a hammering then it retains what it has for a while ready for the next push. I’m not meaning to patronise you, you no doubt know this but that’s where the consistency and discipline comes in
 

covcity4life

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  • Aug 9, 2024
  • #849
80kg bench completed today. Buzzing
 

Marty

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  • Aug 9, 2024
  • #850
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I think the word ‘liberating’ covers that. Been stuck at this current weight for months now though which is really frustrating.
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It'll come, don't get disheartened, when I lost my weight, I got stuck at 13.5 stone for a few months, then lost 1.5 stone in about 3 weeks. It just all came off at once, changed nothing regarding my diet or exercise.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 9, 2024
  • #851
Marty said:
It'll come, don't get disheartened, when I lost my weight, I got stuck at 13.5 stone for a few months, then lost 1.5 stone in about 3 weeks. It just all came off at once, changed nothing regarding my diet or exercise.
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I think there is some truth though in the advice to slightly increase my calorie intake given a whole year of a pretty large deficit.
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Aug 9, 2024
  • #852
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I think there is some truth though in the advice to slightly increase my calorie intake given a whole year of a pretty large deficit.
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Oh I’d say you have to- if you’re that much lighter then your body is running completely differently now, different metabolism and everything, it’ll need more fuel.
 

covcity4life

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  • Aug 9, 2024
  • #853
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I think there is some truth though in the advice to slightly increase my calorie intake given a whole year of a pretty large deficit.
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In other words


Covcity4life is always right!
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 15, 2024
  • #854
So about 3 months on from this and trying to stick to what I thought was a maintenance figure…now put on a stone and back into being technically obese.

If I’m gaining weight on a low 2000 calorie diet, what actually is the answer? Have I screwed my metabolism? Clothes still seem to fit the same as they did in August which makes it more puzzling.
 

Evo1883

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  • Nov 15, 2024
  • #855
Brighton Sky Blue said:
So about 3 months on from this and trying to stick to what I thought was a maintenance figure…now put on a stone and back into being technically obese.

If I’m gaining weight on a low 2000 calorie diet, what actually is the answer? Have I screwed my metabolism? Clothes still seem to fit the same as they did in August which makes it more puzzling.
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Do uou feel comfortable at this new weight ? My ideal weight is classed as obese but it's how I'm built , if I was to be 11 st 7 like my doctor thinks then id look like I was dying
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 15, 2024
  • #856
Evo1883 said:
Do uou feel comfortable at this new weight ? My ideal weight is classed as obese but it's how I'm built , if I was to be 11 st 7 like my doctor thinks then id look like I was dying
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Would like to lose the stomach fat but to be honest it feels pretty demoralising to work this hard to then seemingly be punished for eating what seems sensible.
 

Evo1883

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  • Nov 15, 2024
  • #857
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Would like to lose the stomach fat but to be honest it feels pretty demoralising to work this hard to then seemingly be punished for eating what seems sensible.
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How about you try eating a zero carb diet

Mate lost loads eating basically eggs , cheese, belly pork and steak

Body lives off fat stores rather than carbs
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Nov 15, 2024
  • #858
Brighton Sky Blue said:
So about 3 months on from this and trying to stick to what I thought was a maintenance figure…now put on a stone and back into being technically obese.

If I’m gaining weight on a low 2000 calorie diet, what actually is the answer? Have I screwed my metabolism? Clothes still seem to fit the same as they did in August which makes it more puzzling.
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Could be water weight, stress/hormone fluctuation or actual weight gain. Don’t panic and probably need to cut an extra 100-200 kcals off and increase expenditure.

I need to get back on my weight loss program because this year has been a big step backwards.

Iceland do a decent range of MyProtein meals that are 3 for £10 which can be good if batch cooking is an issue. It has been for me when travelling a lot.
 
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SBAndy

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  • Nov 15, 2024
  • #859
Brighton Sky Blue said:
So about 3 months on from this and trying to stick to what I thought was a maintenance figure…now put on a stone and back into being technically obese.

If I’m gaining weight on a low 2000 calorie diet, what actually is the answer? Have I screwed my metabolism? Clothes still seem to fit the same as they did in August which makes it more puzzling.
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What exercise are you doing (if any)? What is the ‘profile’ of your diet?

I wouldn’t get too focused on weight given the journey you’ve been on. It’s possible that there’s been muscle gain or, as MMB says, water retention if the salt content of your diet has been higher than usual.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Jan 13, 2025
  • #860
Didn't want to derail the politics thread again so figured I'd post it in here. Panorama tonight was about weight loss jabs. Only 30 mins and worth a watch

Panorama - Weight Loss Jabs and the NHS

The new generation of weight loss drugs is now available on the NHS and Panorama has exclusive access to one of the UK’s top hospitals as it rolls out Wegovy, also known as Ozempic.
www.bbc.co.uk
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 13, 2025
  • #861
chiefdave said:
Didn't want to derail the politics thread again so figured I'd post it in here. Panorama tonight was about weight loss jabs. Only 30 mins and worth a watch

Panorama - Weight Loss Jabs and the NHS

The new generation of weight loss drugs is now available on the NHS and Panorama has exclusive access to one of the UK’s top hospitals as it rolls out Wegovy, also known as Ozempic.
www.bbc.co.uk
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Two friends have lost significant weight
It’s a no brainer for me
 
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robbiekeane

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #862
Sky Blue Pete said:
Two friends have lost significant weight
It’s a no brainer for me
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My concerns with it are
1) It doesn’t fix the underlying psychological issues with controlling your impulses. So you risk having to be on it for life which brings me to
2) No one knows the long term effects of this shit
 
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Captain Dart

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #863
chiefdave said:
Didn't want to derail the politics thread again so figured I'd post it in here. Panorama tonight was about weight loss jabs. Only 30 mins and worth a watch

Panorama - Weight Loss Jabs and the NHS

The new generation of weight loss drugs is now available on the NHS and Panorama has exclusive access to one of the UK’s top hospitals as it rolls out Wegovy, also known as Ozempic.
www.bbc.co.uk
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In the USA in a few years there will be class-action lawsuits against Ozempic from people seeking damages for the harm this drug has done to them.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #864
Captain Dart said:
In the USA in a few years there will be class-action lawsuits against Ozempic from people seeking damages for the harm this drug has done to them.
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I can’t shake this feeling that you’ve probably said the same at some point about vaccines.
 
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Captain Dart

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #865
Sick Boy said:
I can’t help but shake this feeling that you’ve probably said the same at some point vaccines.
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I said nothing about vaccines.

I did say we see a lot of footballers collapse on video these days (and posted a few clips other people had posted on twitter) but I absolutely never said I knew why.

Other people might have jumped to the conclusion I some sort of fixed idea in mind.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #866
Captain Dart said:
In the USA in a few years there will be class-action lawsuits against Ozempic from people seeking damages for the harm this drug has done to them.
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Go and look at the side effects of literally any drug. There’s no evidence Ozempic is harmful, that’s just wishful thinking.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #867
Captain Dart said:
I said nothing about vaccines.

I did say we see a lot of footballers collapse on video these days (and posted a few clips other people had posted on twitter) but I absolutely never said I knew why.

Other people might have jumped to the conclusion I some sort of fixed idea in mind.
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Yeah, sure. It was more like an extensive collection of videos.
 

chiefdave

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #868
shmmeee said:
Go and look at the side effects of literally any drug. There’s no evidence Ozempic is harmful, that’s just wishful thinking.
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When a new drug or treatment for anything else comes out you don't hear the amount of wailing you do about weightloss drugs.

Nobody is saying stop using an effective cancer treatment because you might get the shits for a few days or you don't know what the effects will be in 20 years time.

And its not like they've developed these out of nowhere, they're a derivative of diabetic treatment and again nobody is telling diabetics not to take their medication or that they shouldn't have it because they'll need it for life.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #869
chiefdave said:
When a new drug or treatment for anything else comes out you don't hear the amount of wailing you do about weightloss drugs.

Nobody is saying stop using an effective cancer treatment because you might get the shits for a few days or you don't know what the effects will be in 20 years time.

And its not like they've developed these out of nowhere, they're a derivative of diabetic treatment and again nobody is telling diabetics not to take their medication or that they shouldn't have it because they'll need it for life.
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Something I think you only ever truly learn as a fatty is the visceral hatred most people have for fat people and how they are viewed as morally compromised. Anyone who has gone through the fat barrier and become a thin person or visa versa will attest to the difference.

It really upsets people that these moral failures might be able to fix things with a simple chemical balance change. They must be punished for their misdeeds
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #870
On similar lines for some reason people that hate the pharmaceutical industry are usually keen on defending the perceived rights of the oil and gas industry
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #871
fernandopartridge said:
On similar lines for some reason people that hate the pharmaceutical industry are usually keen on defending the perceived rights of the oil and gas industry
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The “Big Pharma” stuff is a very good point and also a cross over.
 
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Captain Dart

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #872
I love your trust in medical 'science' based on little or no research.

Severe side effects of GLP-1 drugs (e.g., Ozempic) sourced from 16 million patient’s medical records found that the drugs were strongly linked to a variety of side effects that frequently required hospitalization. Specifically, when compared to another weight loss combination not typically associated with these effects, GLP-1 users were found to have:
  • 9.09 times greater risk of pancreatitis
  • 4.22 times greater risk of bowel obstruction
  • 3.67 times greater risk of gastroparesis (which means you can barely eat because the stomach is constantly full—and in many cases after Ozempic, ends up being permanent)
  • 1.48 times greater risk of biliary disease (e.g., painful gallstones)
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2810542

Adverse events acknowledged within a trial sponsored by Ozempic’s manufacturer:
Table 3 Adverse events

In addition to lawsuits being filed against Ozempic for gastrointestinal disorders such as gastroparesis, lawsuits are also emerging for other severe conditions such as vision loss. Likewise, evidence is now emerging linking Ozempic to an increased risk of suicidal ideation (e.g., a 45% increase has been observed). Animal experiments are showing it distorts the architecture of the small intestine (which can lead to poor nutrient absorption or chronic intestinal obstructions), and many of the GLP-1 drug labels state the drugs may be linked to thyroid cancer.

So good luck with your health and weight loss efforts but don't say you never knew there could be bad side effects of using semaglutide/ozempic.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #873
Captain Dart said:
I love your trust in medical 'science' based on little or no research.

Severe side effects of GLP-1 drugs (e.g., Ozempic) sourced from 16 million patient’s medical records found that the drugs were strongly linked to a variety of side effects that frequently required hospitalization. Specifically, when compared to another weight loss combination not typically associated with these effects, GLP-1 users were found to have:
  • 9.09 times greater risk of pancreatitis
  • 4.22 times greater risk of bowel obstruction
  • 3.67 times greater risk of gastroparesis (which means you can barely eat because the stomach is constantly full—and in many cases after Ozempic, ends up being permanent)
  • 1.48 times greater risk of biliary disease (e.g., painful gallstones)
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2810542

Adverse events acknowledged within a trial sponsored by Ozempic’s manufacturer:
Table 3 Adverse events

In addition to lawsuits being filed against Ozempic for gastrointestinal disorders such as gastroparesis, lawsuits are also emerging for other severe conditions such as vision loss. Likewise, evidence is now emerging linking Ozempic to an increased risk of suicidal ideation (e.g., a 45% increase has been observed). Animal experiments are showing it distorts the architecture of the small intestine (which can lead to poor nutrient absorption or chronic intestinal obstructions), and many of the GLP-1 drug labels state the drugs may be linked to thyroid cancer.

So good luck with your health and weight loss efforts but don't say you never knew there could be bad side effects of using semaglutide/ozempic.
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Puts science in quotes. Uses scientific papers (badly) to back up point. Couldn’t make it up.
 
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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #874
Captain Dart said:
I love your trust in medical 'science' based on little or no research.
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Do you think people don't research things or look into the risk before signing up? You may be shocked to learn that you're not the only person in the world that knows how to google.

The people the NHS, some of whom were featured on the program I'm guessing you haven't watched, recommend these drugs for have multiple life long medical conditions caused by their weight so even if all those things you say are correct you have to balance them against the benefits.

No drug is risk free. But if we took the approach that nothing with any potential for side effects should be considered we'd basically have no treatment for anything.

Out of interest do you think diabetics should cease their treatment or is it only people using semaglutide for weight loss you have an issue with?
 

Captain Dart

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #875
shmmeee said:
Puts science in quotes. Uses scientific papers (badly) to back up point. Couldn’t make it up.
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Is that your best response, no data, no facts just a nonsensical critique of style. Rather poor.
 
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