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We would have been better off with Robins (1 Viewer)

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Evo1883

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  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #421
clint van damme said:
I'm just putting 2 and 2 together.
Maybe coming up with 5, but this team, barring 1 or 2 exceptions, were in great form for a decent period of time.

If it all went to shit because the coaches left and the manager lost it then with the new set up there shouldn't be any need for rebuilds, it should just be a xase of getting them purring again.
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Also , last season was a good season on the whole , saying Robins couldn't manage a decent budget I'd wager that without that cup run we make the playoffs again last year .. but we finished 9th and got to a cup semi final , we were playing so many games in the end it fuxked us
 
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Chris1987

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  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #422
clint van damme said:
I'm just putting 2 and 2 together.
Maybe coming up with 5, but this team, barring 1 or 2 exceptions, were in great form for a decent period of time.

If it all went to shit because the coaches left and the manager lost it then with the new set up there shouldn't be any need for rebuilds, it should just be a xase of getting them purring again.
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I haven't said this - I've been consistent throughout. Robins was a big Austin fan also and backed his recommendations from all the information I've read. This is a major additional factor which I've always emphasised
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #423
Chris1987 said:
I haven't said this - I've been consistent throughout. Robins was a big Austin fan also and backed his recommendations from all the information I've read. This is a major additional factor which I've always emphasised
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No one @Evo1883 answers this?
 

Evo1883

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  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #424
Grendel said:
No one @Evo1883 answers this?
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Answered this about 6 million times

Austin is still here btw and doug will be backing his recommendations in January no doubt
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #425
Chris1987 said:
I haven't said this - I've been consistent throughout. Robins was a big Austin fan also and backed his recommendations from all the information I've read. This is a major additional factor which I've always emphasised
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I'm not aiming these comments purely at you but at those who thought Robins should go.
Again, if the problem is recruitment and the players aren't a 'top 6 deck' how did Robins and Co have them playing so well for a large chunk of the season?

I know I keep making circular arguments but I think the point I'm trying to make is no matter what people try to pin our recent woes on there's evidence to the contrary.
 
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Grendel

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  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #426
Evo1883 said:
Answered this about 6 million times

Austin is still here btw and doug will be backing his recommendations in January no doubt
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Robins totally trusted his judgement though and appointed him?
 
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Evo1883

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  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #427
Grendel said:
Robins totally trusted his judgement though and appointed him?
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Robins trusted his judgement and the judgement of several other scouts who were putting players forward based off stat driven data that will be EXACTLY the same still going forward with frank lampard , what's the thing you're struggling with ?

Alot if these players had good seasons on the whole last year , so I'm not going with the bad players argument, the squad is missing a couple of key additions
 

higgs

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  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #428
Doug re invested the vik and hamer sales he could have pocketed it and let us sign freebies. Sacking Robins and hiring Lampard won't have been cheap either.

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Evo1883

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  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #429
higgs said:
Doug re invested the vik and hamer sales he could have pocketed it and let us sign freebies. Sacking Robins and hiring Lampard won't have been cheap either.

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Good old doug , could have paid cal his worth though , might have been a good thing to do looking back
 

Captain Dart

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  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #430
wingy said:
The show on cwr had David Burrows on I think bigging up Frank and then revealed he'd just done masters in dof, when the told him a post was going here he asked to put his name forward!
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David Thompson.
 
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Chris1987

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  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #431
Evo1883 said:
Answered this about 6 million times

Austin is still here btw and doug will be backing his recommendations in January no doubt
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How do you know ? May have been part of the agreement with Lampard that someone else comes in .
 

Evo1883

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  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #432
Chris1987 said:
How do you know ? May have been part of the agreement with Lampard that someone else comes in .
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Well if somebody else comes in then sure , it won't be Dean

Wouldn't he already be gone ?
 

Chris1987

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  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #433
clint van damme said:
I'm not aiming these comments purely at you but at those who thought Robins should go.
Again, if the problem is recruitment and the players aren't a 'top 6 deck' how did Robins and Co have them playing so well for a large chunk of the season?

I know I keep making circular arguments but I think the point I'm trying to make is no matter what people try to pin our recent woes on there's evidence to the contrary.
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It's the summer arrivals that concern me most . Complete lack of squad requirements which Robins approved
 

Chris1987

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  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #434
Evo1883 said:
Well if somebody else comes in then sure , it won't be Dean

Wouldn't he already be gone ?
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Not necessarily. Maybe the replacement that Lampard wants won't be available for a while . That's the point we don't know.
 

Evo1883

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  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #435
Chris1987 said:
Not necessarily. Maybe the replacement that Lampard wants won't be available for a while . That's the point we don't know.
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I'd be very surprised if Dean Austin isn't here in 3 weeks when the window opens
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #436
Chris1987 said:
It's the summer arrivals that concern me most . Complete lack of squad requirements which Robins approved
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We changed the whole demographic of the squad, I'm not sure that's down to Robins.
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #437
clint van damme said:
We changed the whole demographic of the squad, I'm not sure that's down to Robins.
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What is?
 

Chris1987

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  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #438
Evo1883 said:
I'd be very surprised if Dean Austin isn't here in 3 weeks when the window opens
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May still be here but how much influence he has remains open to conjecture
 

Chris1987

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  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #439
clint van damme said:
We changed the whole demographic of the squad, I'm not sure that's down to Robins.
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Who was deciding tactics and player requirements then ? Surely that has to be Robins
 

Evo1883

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  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #440
Chris1987 said:
Who was deciding tactics and player requirements then ? Surely that has to be Robins
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Robins was one of several people involved in recruitment , last season alot of the new signings did quite well , this season we missed out on a couple players particularly midfielders , hopefully it's addressed in January .

Robins isn't going out and identifying these players but even so , I think we have alot of talent here
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #441
Grendel said:
What is?
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Plenty. But after 7 years of success using experienced players and loans I don't think Robins decided not to bother this time round.

Some of the ITKs have indicated as much, doesn't make it true but I can well imagine it is.
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #442
Chris1987 said:
Who was deciding tactics and player requirements then ? Surely that has to be Robins
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Tactics yes. And he cost us a lot of point this season with poor tactics and poor subs.

Changing the squad demographic, see my reply to Grendel.
 

Chris1987

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  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #443
Evo1883 said:
Robins was one of several people involved in recruitment , last season alot of the new signings did quite well , this season we missed out on a couple players particularly midfielders , hopefully it's addressed in January .

Robins isn't going out and identifying these players but even so , I think we have alot of talent here
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True but he would have been fully aware of their attributes through watching countless online resources. Still can't believe the signing of BTA was sanctioned along with one of Raphael or Norman. Schoolboy error not spending that money on a midfielder and not pursuing that more diligently. Again we don't know why that happened.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #444
Chris1987 said:
True but he would have been fully aware of their attributes through watching countless online resources. Stoll can't believe the signing of BTA was sanctioned along with one of Raphael or Norman. Schoolboy error not spending that money on a midfielder and not pursuing that more diligently. Again we don't know why that happened.
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2 midfielders turned us down tbh , marquee signings
 

Chris1987

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  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #445
clint van damme said:
Tactics yes. And he cost us a lot of point this season with poor tactics and poor subs.

Changing the squad demographic, see my reply to Grendel.
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Too many cooks and all that- the modern game. If the general team is shit the result is shit if the man in charge concurs. Ultimately I eoukd like to see an inkling with my own eyes as to where the power of selection lies within this club. If the quality of signings dramatically improves under Lsmpard with less funding we know the answer
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #446
Evo1883 said:
2 midfielders turned us down tbh , marquee signings
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But robins wasn’t responsible for signings?
 

Chris1987

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  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #447
Evo1883 said:
2 midfielders turned us down tbh , marquee signings
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Unless I'm mistaken we missed out on a quality midfielder because Robins pissed him off by prioritising the other
 

higgs

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  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #448
Evo1883 said:
Good old doug , could have paid cal his worth though , might have been a good thing to do looking back
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I wouldn't say good old Doug but if there is a wage cap then can see why he wouldn't break that wage structure but I would have offered cal a deal on a par with the top earners but did he not accept our deal because he wanted a Premier league move and wasn't willing to stay in the championship with us any longer?

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Chris1987

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  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #449
Evo1883 said:
Good old doug , could have paid cal his worth though , might have been a good thing to do looking back
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No . Its what Cal's agent thought his worth was - massive difference.
 
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Earlsdon-Loyal-Blue

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  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #450
Chris1987 said:
Robins by all accounts wanted Austin in that role and King trusted his judgement.
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Why did King wheel out Dean Austin at the fans forum then? Why hasn’t Austin been fucked off for wasting 40 Million with Robins then? Austin should have been out too if he was such a Robins ‘asset’.

Austin didn’t find Hamer or Gyokeres before you say. He couldn’t find his arse with both hands for that matter.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #451
Grendel said:
But robins wasn’t responsible for signings?
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I literally haven't attributed those players to anybody , that's you trying to be smart
 

Evo1883

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  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #452
Chris1987 said:
Unless I'm mistaken we missed out on a quality midfielder because Robins pissed him off by prioritising the other
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Which one is this ? One lad went to forest / olympiacos on loan the other didn't want to leave ajax despite being surplus
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #453
Evo1883 said:
Which one is this ? One lad went to forest / olympiacos on loan the other didn't want to leave ajax despite being surplus
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You know who it is
 

Evo1883

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  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #454
Brighton Sky Blue said:
You know who it is
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Having a brain fart , remind me
 

Sick Boy

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  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #455
Evo1883 said:
Yes you have insight into all the Barnsley fans opinions
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Urgh don’t summon that Barnsley fan.
 
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