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We would have been better off with Robins (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter SkyBlueMatt
  • Start date Dec 11, 2024
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Evo1883

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  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #386
Grendel said:
I’ve said adversity management was his strength as the only other club he did well at was Rotherham
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Barnsley never finished as high again after robins left before they were relegated fyi
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #387
TomRad85 said:
And gave him and his assistant new contracts plus tens of millions in transfer funds. Does seem rather far fetched doesn't it.
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It's just utter nonsense.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #388
Sick Boy said:
This is hilarious.

So he had planned to sack him as soon as he joined but waited for nearly two whole seasons worth of games to do it rather than at the earliest sign of trouble/poor form last season.

Right.
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It wasn't planned. But with hindsight it was the start of the end of an era.
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #389
Chris1987 said:
And other sides didn't have the same problem throughout the season? Come on Evo . Ffs what's wrong with you that you refuse to consider a level playing field over the duration of a whole season.
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Well actually no we had one of the smallest squads in the league and had a long cup run
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #390
Evo1883 said:
Barnsley never finished as high again after robins left before they were relegated fyi
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They were in the play offs in the championship in 2021
 

TomRad85

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #391
Sick Boy said:
It's just utter nonsense.
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Emperor Palpatine style politics from King.
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #392
Grendel said:
They were in the play offs in the championship in 2021
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Before they were relegated after he left grendel , they got worse
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #393
Evo1883 said:
Before they were relegated after he left grendel
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More straw clutching. I doubt they’d want him back.
 

Chris1987

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  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #394
Evo1883 said:
Too long ? Jesus frank doesn't have much time then
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So a league record over his last 22 games of W6 D4 L12 is not a sign of decline then ?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #395
Bring back Sisu so Mark can have his job back
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #396
Chris1987 said:
So a league record over his last 22 games of W6 D4 L12 is not a sign of decline then ?
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Who adds the end of last season ? Not any sane person
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #397
Chris1987 said:
So a league record over his last 22 games of W6 D4 L12 is not a sign of decline then ?
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So if the issue is/was a decline in Robins managagerial performance we should soon see a massive up turn in results with the new elite coaching set up?
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #398
Evo1883 said:
Who adds the end of last season ? Not any sane person
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Who only focuses on a couple of wins against obvious and clear decline this season and claim it’s turning around?
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #399
Grendel said:
More straw clutching. I doubt they’d want him back.
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After he left they finished 21st 21st and 23rd and we're relegated , there is no clutch strawing.
 

Chris1987

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #400
Evo1883 said:
Well actually no we had one of the smallest squads in the league and had a long cup run
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Constant excuses. Just look at the facts of the last 22 league games under Robins. That's almost half a season with a shot load of money spent too which he sanctioned.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #401
clint van damme said:
So if the issue is/was a decline in Robins managagerial performance we should soon see a massive up turn in results with the new elite coaching set up?
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No - honestly I think we were heading down or near to it.
 
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Grendel

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  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #402
Evo1883 said:
After he left they finished 21st 21st and 23rd and we're relegated , there is no clutch strawing.
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They were glad to be rid of him
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #403
Grendel said:
Who only focuses on a couple of wins against obvious and clear decline this season and claim it’s turning around?
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Grendel , his 7.5 years here meant he deserved more time than 14 league games ..
Cheers
 

Chris1987

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #404
clint van damme said:
So if the issue is/was a decline in Robins managagerial performance we should soon see a massive up turn in results with the new elite coaching set up?
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We will see . "Massive upturn" is a gross exaggeration which you have chosen to cherry pick as a phrase. Where have I ever stated that I expected a massive upturn ? I just expect an improvement. We can all invent bollocks statements to justify our point of view but that's really exceptionally childish.
 

Evo1883

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  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #405
Grendel said:
They were glad to be rid of him
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Yes you have insight into all the Barnsley fans opinions
 

Chris1987

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #406
Evo1883 said:
Grendel , his 7.5 years here meant he deserved more time than 14 league games ..
Cheers
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22
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #407
Chris1987 said:
22
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How about 7.5 years of form chris ? Shall we add that in
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #408
Chris1987 said:
Constant excuses. Just look at the facts of the last 22 league games under Robins. That's almost half a season with a shot load of money spent too which he sanctioned.
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Chris , il tell you what mate it's easier to ask you to name me 3 better seasons than last season in the last 25 years ..then il take your opinion of it seriously

Go
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #409
Grendel said:
No - honestly I think we were heading down or near to it.
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With a squad that spent over 3 months playing like promotion candidates and got to within a whisker of an FA Cup final?

That's not a lucky run.

If the squads that bad how did Robins have them playing so well?
If it was down to Adi and Lawrence then surely the new elite coaching set up should soon have us firing again?
 
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Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #410
Barnsley fans were glad he went , then had 2 worse seasons and then were relegated in the 3 years after him
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #411
Chris1987 said:
We will see . "Massive upturn" is a gross exaggeration which you have chosen to cherry pick as a phrase. Where have I ever stated that I expected a massive upturn ? I just expect an improvement. We can all invent bollocks statements to justify our point of view but that's really exceptionally childish.
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Eh? I used the phrase massive upturn.
 
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Chris1987

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  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #412
Evo1883 said:
How about 7.5 years of form chris ? Shall we add that in
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Yes 7.5 years of brilliance but the other major imponderable is that MR had previously never operated with a decent budget but was a warrior under adversity. Given a budget and with signings he approved they have been questionable and his management of these players is open to debate. We all know that he was stubborn and this may have been his downfall
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #413
Chris1987 said:
Yes 7.5 years of brilliance but the other major imponderable is that MR had previously never operated with a decent budget but was a warrior under adversity. Given a budget and with signings he approved they have been questionable and his management of these players is open to debate. We all know that he was stubborn and this may have been his downfall
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Sure boss, this is you in February mate , you seem to have had a change of heart to fit your argument ? Why Is that

you didn't think playoffs was realistic anyway and yet we're given the chance up until the end almost and had the added joy of an fa cup semi final .

Honestly our fans
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #414
clint van damme said:
With a squad that spent over 3 months playing like promotion candidates and got to within a whisker of an FA Cup final?

That's not a lucky run.

If the squads that bad how did Robins have them playing so well?
If it was down to Adi and Lawrence then surely the new elite coaching set up should soon have us firing again?
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O Hare
 
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Chris1987

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #415
clint van damme said:
Eh? I used the phrase massive upturn.
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I assumed that the implication was that I expected a massive upturn. Why would it be reasonable for anyone to expect a massive upturn? Upturn yes . That's a ridiculous expectation
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #416
Grendel said:
O Hare
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Well that's an argument I'd thinks got some traction but plenty on here won't have it.
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #417
Grendel said:
O Hare
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We did ofcourse lose 10 league games with cal in the team too ? I like cal too
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #418
These same players last season gave us some great times .. part of the problem with this squad is it's missing a couple of players in key positions , we know already we failed to bring in 2 top midfielders
 

Chris1987

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #419
Evo1883 said:
Sure boss, this is you in February mate , you seem to have had a change of heart to fit your argument ? Why Is that

you didn't think playoffs was realistic anyway and yet we're given the chance up until the end almost and had the added joy of an fa cup semi final .

Honestly our fans
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Time doesn't stay constant , that was last February when that statement was perfectly justifiable. We've spent a load mors since and have regressed under Robins- facts. Comes to something when you have to dig that deep to try and find an argument ( which fails ) to diminish my point. I won't go delving into your posting history as that's childish. I respected you before but not now. You appear to twist anything to suit your pro Robins agenda and refuse to accept any difference to your point of view.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 13, 2024
  • #420
Chris1987 said:
I assumed that the implication was that I expected a massive upturn. Why would it be reasonable for anyone to expect a massive upturn? Upturn yes . That's a ridiculous expectation
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I'm just putting 2 and 2 together.
Maybe coming up with 5, but this team, barring 1 or 2 exceptions, were in great form for a decent period of time.

If it all went to shit because the coaches left and the manager lost it then with the new set up there shouldn't be any need for rebuilds, it should just be a case of getting them purring again.
 
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