We would have been better off with Robins (2 Viewers)

SkyBlueMatt · Dec 11, 2024

6 points in 6 games.

25 points by Christmas yeah?

More XG than the opposition, same as before. They will put this 'bad luck' on Lampard and he's been unfortunate. Players need to stand up and stop being weak as piss.

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ptr · Dec 11, 2024

The players aren’t good enough but it was clear as day that Robins wasn’t going to turn it around.

fatso · Dec 11, 2024

Give him a transfer window at least, he's still getting to know the squad, and he's without Wright who makes a big difference.

His use of subs is better than MR, and he's dropped Dasilva which is a bonus.

PVA · Dec 11, 2024

Not writing Lampard off and here's here so he'll have my full support. But I don't see Lampard getting any more out of this group of players than Robins would.

Nick · Dec 11, 2024

Would we?

He's gone.

Evo1883 · Dec 11, 2024

SkyBlueMatt said:
6 points in 6 games.

25 points by Christmas yeah?

More XG than the opposition, same as before. They will put this 'bad luck' on Lampard and he's been unfortunate. Players need to stand up and stop being weak as piss.

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I agree but it's happened he's gone and we have to back lampard and hope it works .

Chin up mate PUSB

Bigelvesy · Dec 11, 2024

fatso said:
Give him a transfer window at least, he's still getting to know the squad, and he's without Wright who makes a big difference.

His use of subs is better than MR, and he's dropped Dasilva which is a bonus.

I think you should be careful about labelling anyone as “dropped”.
He stated he’d be rotating people as he gets to know the squad more.
I hope you’re right but i think we’ll still see da silva again

pusbccfc · Dec 11, 2024

Didn't take long for this post

Terry_dactyl · Dec 11, 2024

pusbccfc said:
Didn't take long for this post

How many days has Lampard been in charge?

JoeCCFCPUSB · Dec 11, 2024

It's fairly simple, we have shit centre backs Joel. Bobby, Luis and Liam aren't good enough, 2 goals in 7 of the last 8 games.

We need a new left back, while I would keep Bidwell I wouldn't be playing him, perfect back up.

Lastly we need a player that can be the spark between middle and attack, aka a proper number 10.

Joel, binks, liam and Bobby are simply not good enough, if you want to finish around 16th in the table then yes keep these 4

Rudoni isn't good enough, compare his work and creativity to O'hare and it is telling.

Dasilva isn't at the standard, if you want him to play you play him as a winger and you then have yourself a poor winger.

Unfortunately when having a squad overhaul you're just not gonna get everything right.
Dasilva, Joel, Liam, Bobby, Luis, Rudoni, BTA unfortunately are examples of getting it wrong.

Mve, Sakamoto, Wright. Mason Clarke, Torp and Simms have all come in and settled down and done well, when given a chance.

If your central defence is terrible you're going to struggle, if your number 10 can't link the play you will waste chance after chance, regardless of xg.

Luckily for us tho, we are 3 or 4 players away from the jigsaw being complete, however this will all depend on Doug King now. If he passes around, we will lose Sheaf, Wright and Mve, and then it's back to the very beginning.

We have wasted so much money, one name in particular is BTA, £2 million on a player that honestly for me, looks so out of his depth in this division, he has no ball control, his first touch is dreadful and he just looks like a league 1 player. Serious questions must be asked of our head of recruitment Austin.

Perennial Lurker · Dec 11, 2024

pusbccfc said:
Didn't take long for this post

I agree with parts of it but it's a pointless thread .
Frank is our new manager now , get behind him and the team

Perennial Lurker · Dec 11, 2024

Terry_dactyl said:
How many days has Lampard been in charge?

Not as many as Liz Truss!

CBS16 · Dec 11, 2024

It's happened and Lampard needs time to imprint something on them. The squad is nowhere near ready for anything higher than mid table. The defence is league one standard and our forwards are fighting a losing battle.

However, why does Lampard get the time to fix the mess created by recruitment and not Robins? The excitement of a fresh new face will fade, and in time it will be clear what a very harsh and probably incorrect decision it was to sack Mark Robins. Fans rightly trusted Robins to eventually get it right based off a long track record of doing so, this is an enormous job for Frank if Doug expects play offs next season

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Dec 11, 2024

While I don't necessarily agree with the OP, the performances/results so far under CCFL have been little different to those under MR.

So while I'm hoping Frank does a good job and will support him, it does suggest the problem wasn't the manager.

BrisbaneBronco · Dec 11, 2024

Last 9
Robins WWL
Carr DDL
Lampard DWL

SeshMouseSkyBlue · Dec 11, 2024

Bigelvesy said:
I think you should be careful about labelling anyone as “dropped”.
He stated he’d be rotating people as he gets to know the squad more.
I hope you’re right but i think we’ll still see da silva again

When does the rotation of MVE start

Perennial Lurker · Dec 11, 2024

BrisbaneBronco said:
Last 9
Robins WWL
Carr DDL
Lampard DWL

Can I have a vowel please Rachel

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Dec 11, 2024

Perennial Lurker said:
Can I have a vowel please Rachel

It's the Welsh language version.

Frankly_Mr_Shankly · Dec 11, 2024

We’d have lost Ll

SkyBlueMatt said:
6 points in 6 games.

25 points by Christmas yeah?

More XG than the opposition, same as before. They will put this 'bad luck' on Lampard and he's been unfortunate. Players need to stand up and stop being weak as piss.

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we’d have lost all 3 under Robins, or won all 3 maybe draws, what a pointless question.
This is Robin’s squad fact.

Perennial Lurker · Dec 11, 2024

Frankly_Mr_Shankly said:
We’d have lost Ll

we’d have lost all 3 under Robins, or won all 3 maybe draws, what a pointless question.
This is Robin’s squad fact.

So Frank will be totally blameless until after the January window ?

pusbccfc · Dec 11, 2024

BrisbaneBronco said:
Last 9
Robins WWL
Carr DDL
Lampard DWL

Lampard and Carr would be WW if they played against 10 men like Robins did in those two wins.

nunchuckas · Dec 11, 2024

ptr said:
The players aren’t good enough but it was clear as day that Robins wasn’t going to turn it around.

I dunno, we were averaging 1.75 points per game in Robins last 4 games, around the same time he always starts to turn it around.

fernandopartridge · Dec 11, 2024

ptr said:
The players aren’t good enough but it was clear as day that Robins wasn’t going to turn it around.

If the players aren't good enough why was Robins sacked?

Perennial Lurker · Dec 11, 2024

nunchuckas said:
I dunno, we were averaging 1.75 points per game in Robins last 4 games, around the same time he always starts to turn it around.

The last 3 games were typical Robins in his tenure. Get points when not expected then throw in an absolute stinker

harvey098 · Dec 11, 2024

ptr said:
The players aren’t good enough but it was clear as day that Robins wasn’t going to turn it around.

You probably said the same when he was in exactly the same position the previous two seasons. We looked hopeless both seasons at the start and then he found a way.
We won 2 of the last 3 before he was sacked.

I firmly believe we would’ve stood a better chance with him than anyone else on the list of potential replacements.

But it’s done now, we have to move forward (sadly)

ptr · Dec 11, 2024

harvey098 said:
You probably said the same when he was in exactly the same position the previous two seasons. We looked hopeless both seasons at the start and then he found a way.
We won 2 of the last 3 before he was sacked.

I firmly believe we would’ve stood a better chance with him than anyone else on the list of potential replacements.

Bit it’s done now, we have to move forward (sadly)

I really didn’t say the same.

With all the off field stuff, coaching changes etc, it just felt different this time around.

Respect your opinion though.

Chris1987 · Dec 11, 2024

So predictable. It was only a matter of time before someone started this thread. Surprised it took 3 games.

Chris1987 · Dec 11, 2024

fernandopartridge said:
If the players aren't good enough why was Robins sacked?

Because he had final say on signing most of them.

fernandopartridge · Dec 11, 2024

Chris1987 said:
Because he had final say on signing most of them.

King thinks they're good enough

Brighton Sky Blue · Dec 11, 2024

I see Lampard at least trying to get this group doing the right things. The problem is I have no faith in too many of these players.

January we need to move on some piss takers and replace them with consistent performers

nunchuckas · Dec 11, 2024

Perennial Lurker said:
The last 3 games were typical Robins in his tenure. Get points when not expected then throw in an absolute stinker

Yeah exactly, like the Yeovil 2-6 at home the year we won the playoffs, or the Rotherham 4-0 the year we won the league, or the Luton 6-0 the week before we beat Fulham 4-1.

Would have been typical City under Robins to go up to Sunderland 3 days after the Derby debacle and get the win.

But nah, ignore history, sack him instead.

Perennial Lurker · Dec 11, 2024

nunchuckas said:
Yeah exactly, like the Yeovil 2-6 at home the year we won the playoffs, or the Rotherham 4-0 the year we won the league, or the Luton 6-0 the week before we beat Fulham 4-1.

Would have been typical City under Robins to go up to Sunderland 3 days after the Derby debacle and get the win.

But nah, ignore history, sack him instead.

Would be interesting to see his results against top 6 sides during his stewardship. I bet they would make interesting reading

Chris1987 · Dec 11, 2024

fernandopartridge said:
King thinks they're good enough

Well you can't expect him to publicly say much else really. Wouldnt be great if he came out and said they were shit We will see how good he thinks they are when Lampard has his say on transfers

harvey098 · Dec 11, 2024

ptr said:
I really didn’t say the same.

With all the off field stuff, coaching changes etc, it just felt different this time around.

Respect your opinion though.

Yeah fair

I still feel he would’ve found a way, as he always did. I respect your opinion too though, I guess we’ll never know who would’ve been right

nunchuckas · Dec 11, 2024

Perennial Lurker said:
Would be interesting to see his results against top 6 sides during his stewardship. I bet they would make interesting reading

That's the thing with Lampard, I think he'll get more wins than Robins against the poor teams, but lack the tactical nous to beat the better teams, which was Robins biggest strength - other than the first half Vs Luton in the playoff final, we always turned up in big games under Robins.

If you look at Lampard's first, fairly successful season at Chelsea, they finished 4th after he inherited the team that finished 3rd the previous season. He only won something like 1 game against the top 6.

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