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  • Start date Aug 15, 2021
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #246
Ccfcisparks said:
No Kelly is key to our squad. If people couldn’t tell the difference he made to our team last year they were watching a different game. Kelly with either Hamer or Sheaf we will be a lot better and more balanced
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not happening
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #247
Grendel said:
not happening
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If it doesn’t happen we will be making more trouble for ourself. Hamer and Sheaf offer no steel in front of defence
 
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cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #248
Grendel said:
not happening
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soon as Kelly is fit he’s back in that side,robins knows how much he means to us hence why he’s just been extended,sheaf is toast once he’s back fit
 

cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #249
While we are at it how many goals and assists did Kelly get last season compared to O’Hare ?
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #250
cc84cov said:
soon as Kelly is fit he’s back in that side,robins knows how much he means to us hence why he’s just been extended,sheaf is toast once he’s back fit
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Erm he gave Sheaf a 3 year contract
 

cc84cov

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  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #251
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Erm he gave Sheaf a 3 year contract
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Squad player He had no way out
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #252
cc84cov said:
Squad player He had no way out
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Have a day off talking shit.
 

COV

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  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #253
cc84cov said:
While we are at it how many goals and assists did Kelly get last season compared to O’Hare ?
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go on?
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #254
Nick said:
Have a day off talking shit.
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I’m sure somewhere along the line he’s a relation of Sky Blue Kid
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #255
I love Liam Kelly for everything he's done for us but I hope he's behind Sheaf and Hamer in the pecking order this year.

If we're starting him it would likely be because we're in a relegation battle and we need that lower league grit in the game. The other two, when on form, are players that you'd expect to be in a mid-table team.
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #256
It's a squad game. We're going to need most of them over the season, so it doesn't matter who we think is a bit better than whom. Leave it to MR and concentrate on the next game
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #257
Ccfcisparks said:
If it doesn’t happen we will be making more trouble for ourself. Hamer and Sheaf offer no steel in front of defence
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Really? Not even Hamer?
 

CanadianCCFC

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  • Aug 16, 2021
  • #258
Injuries will play a big role, I’m worried about missing Walker
 
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SkyBlueSam01

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  • Aug 16, 2021
  • #259
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Really? Not even Hamer?
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Hamer undoubtedly has steel... I'd say Kelly's predominant contributions are game management and tactical nous.

Problem is do you pair that with steel or technical ability?
 

fatso

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  • Aug 16, 2021
  • #260
DannyThomas_1981 said:
Just find it hilarious you ask others for stats given your constantly ill-informed arguments.

As for your 'career on here' - I sincerely hope that your real life career was considerably more successful because honestly your time on here has been marked mostly by failure and nonsense.
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cc84cov

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  • Aug 16, 2021
  • #261
SkyBlueSam01 said:
Hamer undoubtedly has steel... I'd say Kelly's predominant contributions are game management and tactical nous.

Problem is do you pair that with steel or technical ability?
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Same as last season if Kelly is fit he plays
 
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CDK

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  • Aug 16, 2021
  • #262
COV said:
go on?
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He plays a different role in the side.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Aug 16, 2021
  • #263
shmmeee said:
His atrocious pass completion rate for a CM mostly. I think what Dreamer said is fair. Decent enough to bring on when you’re defending a lead an need someone to kick it into row Z no questions asked.
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He isn’t the best passer of the ball, you’re right.
Overall, he was probably our best defensive midfielder and that is his primary role.

Had we signed Matty James, that would’ve been Kelly’s replacement. We didn’t and the search continues - it’s really not that simple to go out and sign a player to replace your captain.

We are still looking to sign a CM on loan too so our recruitment isn’t complete in that department either.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Aug 16, 2021
  • #264
Mucca Mad Boys said:
He isn’t the best passer of the ball, you’re right.
Overall, he was probably our best defensive midfielder and that is his primary role.

Had we signed Matty James, that would’ve been Kelly’s replacement. We didn’t and the search continues - it’s really not that simple to go out and sign a player to replace your captain.

We are still looking to sign a CM on loan too so our recruitment isn’t complete in that department either.
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I thought we were after 1 more and it was a LWB
 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 16, 2021
  • #265
Liquid Gold said:
I thought we were after 1 more and it was a LWB
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That’s what Robins has said. Sheaf is clearly Kelly’s replacement. We don’t play 3 CM, and we’re clearly after a loan so I don’t get this idea we are still looking for Kelly’s replacement and not just a loan to cover while we’ve got injuries.

It’s just this weird thing people have that they can’t accept Sheaf as a player. Just like when they were all pretending we hadn’t signed him.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 16, 2021
  • #266
Iirc Sheaf's defensive stats were as good as Kelly's but his passing is on another level.

I like Kelly but there were times last season where his limitations were really exposed, not to say he can't do a job but i don't think he'll necessarily start as many games as he may have done in the past.

That said, depends how we go but the signs from the first two games are that being dominated in midfield is not a problem at all.
 
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SIR ERNIE

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  • Aug 16, 2021
  • #267
I think Sheaf and Hamer are his preferred starters but over a 46 game season MR will be looking at Sheaf/Hamer/Kelly as his any 2 from 3 CMs for the season. With all three fit he has competition for places and reliable cover for suspensions, injuries and dips in form.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 16, 2021
  • #268
SIR ERNIE said:
I think Sheaf and Hamer are his preferred starters but over a 46 game season MR will be looking at Sheaf/Hamer/Kelly as his any 2 from 3 CMs for the season. With all three fit he has competition for places and reliable cover for suspensions, injuries and dips in form.
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Yes, and Hamer will be suspended at least once
 

Johhny Blue

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  • Aug 16, 2021
  • #269
hamil99 said:
Is the bet league only or all appearances? Best to sort out all the details or it'll just get messy in the end
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Do headers count?
 
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hamil99

Facebook User
  • Aug 16, 2021
  • #270
Johhny Blue said:
Do headers count?
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Only if it comes off the back of their heads
 

Esoterica

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2021
  • #271
Have a feeling that some of these Sheaf and Hamer comments are going to be quoted a lot during this season
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 18, 2021
  • #272
riyadhskyblue said:
Kelly is head and shoulders above Sheaf and Hamer and is the missing link IMO. Both players need a player like Kelly to make sense their movement.
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Pfffftttt
 
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Evo1883

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  • Aug 18, 2021
  • #273
Allen looks a new player so far
 

NortonSkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2021
  • #274
fernandopartridge said:
Pfffftttt
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I am sure you are aware that both Sheaf and Kelly are Coventry City players who I want to succeed. I believe that Sheaf has started well and deserves his place atm. I also recognise that Kelly has been pivotal to our rise and we were a better team with him in the side.
Three games in doesn’t make a career and I still believe that Kelly is the man, however should Robins choose Sheaf I hope he is brilliant.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 18, 2021
  • #275
fernandopartridge said:
Iirc Sheaf's defensive stats were as good as Kelly's but his passing is on another level.

I like Kelly but there were times last season where his limitations were really exposed, not to say he can't do a job but i don't think he'll necessarily start as many games as he may have done in the past.

That said, depends how we go but the signs from the first two games are that being dominated in midfield is not a problem at all.
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I’ve looked into this and Sheaf had some impressive stats. However, Kelly’s overall rating was better than Sheafs - 6.74 to 6.60 iirc.

Sheaf had injuries to deal with last year so I’m hoping he can elevate his game that much more this season. I like him and think £750,000 could be v good value.

For me, Kelly is the default starter but he will be out for a while so Sheaf has time to stake his claim.
 
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