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Brighton Sky Blue · Aug 15, 2021

Mucca Mad Boys said:
Not sure what it is exactly, but we look a lot more dangerous whenever Walker is on the pitch. Personally, I think he’s the best we’ve got at the club.

If I was picking the team, I’d have have one of Gyo/Waghorn and one of Godden/Walker as my strike partnership.

We did enough yesterday to win, let alone draw, the game yesterday without Kelly - you’re right.

Goals win games, we had plenty of very good chances to score yesterday and didn't take any of them. The only one they got they put it away and unless we want many more very frustrating afternoons of losing to otherwise crap teams we need our attacking players especially to be more clinical.

As for the partnerships, unfortunately the only 2 fit strikers available are the ones who make the least effective duo. A real shame as Walker looked right up for it yesterday.

Irish Sky Blue · Aug 15, 2021

shmmeee said:
They should’ve saved some cash and brought in Max and Kelly.

Obviously leadership counts, but you don’t put in substandard players for it. Leaders need to be respected and lead by example, if you’re the worst player on the pitch you can’t lead because you won’t be respected.

You have just shown why Kelly is Captain and why Robins keeps picking him. He is a good leader and one of the reasons for this is that the other players respect his playing ability. As you say, if he couldn’t play to Championship standard, that respect would not be there.

cc84cov · Aug 15, 2021

Irish Sky Blue said:
You have just shown why Kelly is Captain and why Robins keeps picking him. He is a good leader and one of the reasons for this is that the other players respect his playing ability. As you say, if he couldn’t play to Championship standard, that respect would not be there.

Sheaf has gone from shit to keeping Kelly out the side

Grendel · Aug 15, 2021

Irish Sky Blue said:
You have just shown why Kelly is Captain and why Robins keeps picking him. He is a good leader and one of the reasons for this is that the other players respect his playing ability. As you say, if he couldn’t play to Championship standard, that respect would not be there.

you say he keeps picking him but I’m sure sheaf played more last season?

Irish Sky Blue · Aug 15, 2021

Gint11 said:
I haven’t got an issue with you not rating Kelly and of course you entitled to an opinion just like I am entitled to see it differently and challenge it.

Football isn’t just about passing is it?
Kelly’s pass completion last season was 66% which isn’t great but what about other attributes he brings? Leadership, heart, organisation, communication, leading by example, the odd goal (the 2 he scored against Wycombe)

In my opinion, when Kelly plays the team is better.

He is also always available, even in very tight situations. He provides an outlet ball to his team mates, helping them out of difficult areas. With this in mind, it’s not surprising that pass completion rate is lower than others.
Fortunately players are not just judged on stats alone. The impact a player has on the game, the way they play is still more truely gauged by simply watching the game. Last season we were a better team when Kelly played. That is bourne out by better results but also by the evidence provided by our own eyes. We were a better organised, more cohesive more effective unit when Kelly played. That is not just down to Kelly as a leader, but Kelly as a player too. He is a Championship standard player and rarely dipped below that level in the games he played last year.

SlowerThanPlatt · Aug 15, 2021

Sheaf played 32 games, Kelly 24. Don’t know how time spent injured compares?

Irish Sky Blue · Aug 15, 2021

Grendel said:
you say he keeps picking him but I’m sure sheaf played more last season?

When both were available, Kelly started more games.

Grendel · Aug 15, 2021

Irish Sky Blue said:
When both were available, Kelly started more games.

Did he? Do you have stats?

DannyThomas_1981 · Aug 15, 2021

Grendel said:
Did he? Do you have stats?

Did you use stats in evaluating that Robins (our most successful manager ever) should be fired - as you have now brilliantly suggested for the past 4 seasons?

Ccfcisparks · Aug 15, 2021

Grendel said:
Did he? Do you have stats?

Kelly started 23 of 30 when fit, Sheaf started 20 of 37

Grendel · Aug 15, 2021

DannyThomas_1981 said:
Did you use stats in evaluating that Robins (our most successful manager ever) should be fired - as you have now brilliantly suggested for the past 4 seasons?

curious. I ask for stats on Kelly and you again show how you follow my career on here.

Grendel · Aug 15, 2021

Ccfcisparks said:
Kelly started 23 of 30 when fit, Sheaf started 20 of 37

mmmm but then again players can be in the bench not fully fit?

Ccfcisparks · Aug 15, 2021

Grendel said:
mmmm but then again players can be in the bench not fully fit?

Huh?

cc84cov · Aug 15, 2021

Ccfcisparks said:
Huh?

Sparks do you think sheaf will keep Kelly on the bench once Kelly is fit again ?

Ccfcisparks · Aug 15, 2021

cc84cov said:
Sparks do you think sheaf will keep Kelly on the bench once Kelly is fit again ?

No Kelly is key to our squad. If people couldn’t tell the difference he made to our team last year they were watching a different game. Kelly with either Hamer or Sheaf we will be a lot better and more balanced

Grendel · Aug 15, 2021

Tell you what @DannyThomas_1981 I’m bored with this petulance put your money where you keyboard mouth is

sheaf will start more games than Kelly this season

I will pay 200 to your charity if you prove me wrong and you only have to pay 100 if I prove you wrong

time to show your not a gobshite Danny

Ccfcisparks · Aug 15, 2021

Grendel said:
Tell you what @DannyThomas_1981 I’m bored with this petulance put your money where you keyboard mouth is

sheaf will start more games than Kelly this season

I will pay 200 to your charity if you prove me wrong and you only have to pay 100 if I prove you wrong

time to show your not a gobshite Danny

Nobody is arguing that, people are just saying we are a better team with Kelly in

cc84cov · Aug 15, 2021

Grendel said:
Tell you what @DannyThomas_1981 I’m bored with this petulance put your money where you keyboard mouth is

sheaf will start more games than Kelly this season

I will pay 200 to your charity if you prove me wrong and you only have to pay 100 if I prove you wrong

time to show your not a gobshite Danny

cc84cov · Aug 15, 2021

@DannyThomas_1981 take the bet lad,Sheaf is toast once our leader is back

DannyThomas_1981 · Aug 15, 2021

Grendel said:
curious. I ask for stats on Kelly and you again show how you follow my career on here.

Just find it hilarious you ask others for stats given your constantly ill-informed arguments.

As for your 'career on here' - I sincerely hope that your real life career was considerably more successful because honestly your time on here has been marked mostly by failure and nonsense.

Grendel · Aug 15, 2021

DannyThomas_1981 said:
Just find it hilarious you ask others for stats given your constantly ill-informed arguments.

As for your 'career on here' - I sincerely hope that your real life career was considerably more successful because honestly your time on here has been marked mostly by failure and nonsense.

taking the bet?

DannyThomas_1981 · Aug 15, 2021

Grendel said:
Tell you what @DannyThomas_1981 I’m bored with this petulance put your money where you keyboard mouth is

sheaf will start more games than Kelly this season

I will pay 200 to your charity if you prove me wrong and you only have to pay 100 if I prove you wrong

time to show your not a gobshite Danny

Laughing.

I propose another bet. If your favourite manager (Jackett) is appointed City's manager this season; I will pay £500 to your favourite charity (no doubt Retired Cabbies on Hard Times or something similar).

If not you can pay £100 into the fan's season ticket fund.

Grendel · Aug 15, 2021

cc84cov said:
@DannyThomas_1981 take the bet lad,Sheaf is toast once our leader is back

If he bottles it I’m sure you’ll step in

Grendel · Aug 15, 2021

DannyThomas_1981 said:
Laughing.

I propose another bet. If your favourite manager (Jackett) is appointed City's manager this season; I will pay £500 to your favourite charity (no doubt Retired Cabbies on Hard Times or something similar).

If not you can pay £100 into the fan's season ticket fund.

oh dear you are admitting you are a coward and a gobshite

Grendel · Aug 15, 2021

That’s the end of Danny tonight

DannyThomas_1981 · Aug 15, 2021

Grendel said:
oh dear you are admitting you are a coward and a gobshite

Please seek immediate help Grendel - seriously!!

This is a CCFC messaging forum vs. some absolutely crazy wannabe bookie making up some odds on something meaningless.

Surprising as it seems (and I know you are vaguely unhinged and myopic so you will not get this) - like most people I want to see both players do well. I don't want Sheaf to fail to win some absolutely meaningless bet and I will support both players.

And the irony of someone manically typing away behind a keyboard and calling someone else a coward - could only ever be lost on you......

cc84cov · Aug 15, 2021

DannyThomas_1981 said:
Please seek immediate help Grendel - seriously!!

This is a CCFC messaging forum vs. some absolutely crazy wannabe bookie making up some odds on something meaningless.

Surprising as it seems (and I know you are vaguely unhinged and myopic so you will not get this) - like most people I want to see both players do well. I don't want Sheaf to fail to win some absolutely meaningless bet and I will support both players.

And the irony of someone manically typing away behind a keyboard and calling someone else a coward - could only ever be lost on you......

Danny do you think Kelly will remain captain once Grendel gets his man Kenneth Jacket in

COV · Aug 15, 2021

Ccfcisparks said:
Nobody is arguing that, people are just saying we are a better team with Kelly in

this is the problem when people start banging on about a player like this, they actually convince themselves they’re right.

then someone shows up with hard facts which undermines their view and then the back-pedalling & diverting away starts.

Grendel · Aug 15, 2021

DannyThomas_1981 said:
Please seek immediate help Grendel - seriously!!

This is a CCFC messaging forum vs. some absolutely crazy wannabe bookie making up some odds on something meaningless.

Surprising as it seems (and I know you are vaguely unhinged and myopic so you will not get this) - like most people I want to see both players do well. I don't want Sheaf to fail to win some absolutely meaningless bet and I will support both players.

And the irony of someone manically typing away behind a keyboard and calling someone else a coward - could only ever be lost on you......

Ah no bet then - but you once played for the dog and dug 3rd team and know your stuff. Come on easy money for your charity and given your an international jet setter where is the risk

Grendel · Aug 15, 2021

COV said:
this is the problem when people start banging on about a player like this, they actually convince themselves they’re right.

then someone shows up with hard facts which undermines their view and then the back-pedalling & diverting away starts.

what stats are they?

COV · Aug 15, 2021

DannyThomas_1981 said:
Please seek immediate help Grendel - seriously!!

This is a CCFC messaging forum vs. some absolutely crazy wannabe bookie making up some odds on something meaningless.

Surprising as it seems (and I know you are vaguely unhinged and myopic so you will not get this) - like most people I want to see both players do well. I don't want Sheaf to fail to win some absolutely meaningless bet and I will support both players.

And the irony of someone manically typing away behind a keyboard and calling someone else a coward - could only ever be lost on you......

I would start with Sheaf- I wouldn’t necessarily have done last season but this season definitely. However the comments about Kelly being bandied around are silly.

cc84cov · Aug 15, 2021

COV said:
I would start with Sheaf- I wouldn’t necessarily have done last season but this season definitely. However the comments about Kelly being bandied around are silly.

What comments about Kelly ?

DannyThomas_1981 · Aug 15, 2021

Grendel said:
Ah no bet then - but you once played for the dog and dug 3rd team and know your stuff. Come on easy money for your charity and given your an international jet setter where is the risk

Jealousy Grends - it's a terrible thing and will drive you crazy so let it go!

Happy to contribute to your charity (serious offer); just don't want to take a bet against one of our own players - I watch football to support the team and players (and don't want to bet against either).

COV · Aug 15, 2021

cc84cov said:
What comments about Kelly ?

not a championship standard player, only good to bring on to boot it into row z etc etc

SlowerThanPlatt · Aug 15, 2021

DannyThomas_1981 said:
Jealousy Grends - it's a terrible thing and will drive you crazy so let it go!

Happy to contribute to your charity (serious offer); just don't want to take a bet against one of our own players - I watch football to support the team and players (and don't want to bet against either).

Who did you play for out of interest?

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