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Ccfcisparks

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  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #1
Usually I love a good bed wetting situation but I feel this season will genuinely be comfortable. I don’t feel like the league has improved, and there are some terrible teams including Derby and Peterborough, and from what I heard yesterday we are starting to look like a good team. In this league we will have games like those. We have Godden, Kelly, Eccles all to come back in as well as a loan player likely. I still think we will end up anywhere from 14th-18th.
 
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Dog

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  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #2
We will be better than fine. That is as long as we don't have lots of injuries at the same time. But that's the same for any other club.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #3
Dog said:
We will be better than fine. That is as long as we don't have lots of injuries at the same time. But that's the same for any other club.
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Won’t win without scoring unfortunately
 
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Gint11

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  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #4
It’s fine margins as always. We scored 2 in the opener and then yesterday we should have scored 3. I know we didn’t, but we should have. So we’d be on 5 goals in 2 games as thats without our best striker (Godden) and Kelly who for me is our No1 leader.

We’ll be fine.
 
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Grendel

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  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #5
Kelly looked poor when he played in the second half of last season - his lack of pace and poor distribution was getting worse.

he’s going to be a fringe player this season
 
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Garryb80

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  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #6
Grendel said:
Kelly looked poor when he played in the second half of last season - his lack of pace and poor distribution was getting worse.

he’s going to be a fringe player this season
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He isnt. Kelly when fit walks in to the team
 

Gint11

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  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #7
Grendel said:
Kelly looked poor when he played in the second half of last season - his lack of pace and poor distribution was getting worse.

he’s going to be a fringe player this season
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I recall seeing stats last season with and without Kelly and it favoured having Kelly in.
He’s injury prone now unfortunately but still an important cog in our team. I would feel differently if we have James but we don’t.
 
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Grendel

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  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #8
Gint11 said:
I recall seeing stats last season with and without Kelly and it favoured having Kelly in.
He’s injury prone now unfortunately but still an important cog in our team. I would feel differently if we have James but we don’t.
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Stats show Wilson is one of the best goalkeepers we’ve had
 
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lord_garrincha

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  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #9
Omen wise...

Was this the first last minute penalty we've missed since Jutkiewicz against Reading?

We weren't fine that season
 
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Garryb80

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  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #10
Grendel said:
Stats show Wilson is one of the best goalkeepers we’ve had
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Now max has gone you needed a new boo boy I guess it's Kelly's turn
 
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Grendel

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  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #11
Garryb80 said:
Now max has gone you needed a new boo boy I guess it's Kelly's turn
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Ive never criticised him but you have to be realistic - he’s approaching 32 has had several injuries and we have signed central midfielders with transfer values collectively of over £2 million and the general consensus is we need another
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #12
Kelly will be fine to add that experience in games but I don't think he'll be seen as a starter ahead of Hamer and Sheaf unless either of them play really poorly. Given his injury record it's likely he'd spend some time out anyway.

If we're looking to have a back-up to bring on Kelly fits the bill fine (and Eccles the same when he's back). Using part of the budget for a back-up CM wouldn't be a good use of funds IMO. If we go for a CM it'd have to be as an upgrade for the first team and I don't reckon we've got enough money for that. Perhaps a loanee?
 

Gint11

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  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #13
Grendel said:
Stats show Wilson is one of the best goalkeepers we’ve had
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Grendel said:
Stats show Wilson is one of the best goalkeepers we’ve had
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In what time frame though? My reference to Kelly’s stats was based off last season. If Wilson’s stats from last season has him as our best keeper then he was. Again, I recall he collected a good amount of clean sheets.
 

Dog

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  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #14
Sky Blue Pete said:
Won’t win without scoring unfortunately
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We were very unlucky yesterday. And not all sides will get most of their players booked to stop us from having good chances. They scored from about their only decent shot. Their only shot on target I remember.
 

AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #15
I do agree that you won’t get a whole season out of Kelly as he is seeming to be picking up more injuries. Still a great influence for the younger players but we do need another Championship experienced midfield operator.
 

Tommo1993

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  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #16
Stats also show RCC was one of our best. Now he plays for Welling United. Not sure how it can be measured by that.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #17
Tommo1993 said:
Stats also show RCC was one of our best. Now he plays for Welling United. Not sure how it can be measured by that.
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Is it a mere coincidence then that our win percentage was a lot higher with Kelly?
 

Gint11

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  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #18
Tommo1993 said:
Stats also show RCC was one of our best. Now he plays for Welling United. Not sure how it can be measured by that.
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Ok, I just referenced stats to show Kelly still makes a difference but of course, stats don’t tell the only picture, agreed.
 

Tommo1993

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  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #19
Ccfcisparks said:
Is it a mere coincidence then that our win percentage was a lot higher with Kelly?
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Wouldn’t dream of disagreeing with that. First on the sheet when fit.
 
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steve cooper

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  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #20
lord_garrincha said:
Omen wise...

Was this the first last minute penalty we've missed since Jutkiewicz against Reading?

We weren't fine that season
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Fortunately omens are only for the superstitious and have no relevance in reality
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #21
The more experience our players get at this level, the less the team will need Kelly's nous. We have a very young team overall, but there are definitely 3 worse teams that us so barring major injury issues, I think we'll be fine. Huddersfield, Derby and Peterborough, as well as Hull, Forest and Blackpool could well finish below us.
 

Torquay Sky Blue

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  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #22
Grendel said:
Ive never criticised him but you have to be realistic - he’s approaching 32 has had several injuries and we have signed central midfielders with transfer values collectively of over £2 million and the general consensus is we need another
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Approaching 32 means nothing it's the If he gets fit (and it's a big if) we still have an excellent player at this level
 

Gint11

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  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #23
Sky Blue Harry H said:
The more experience our players get at this level, the less the team will need Kelly's nous. We have a very young team overall, but there are definitely 3 worse teams that us so barring major injury issues, I think we'll be fine. Huddersfield, Derby and Peterborough, as well as Hull, Forest and Blackpool could well finish below us.
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Agreed. We’re in our second season so the 3 promoted teams ‘should’ in theory be weaker than us on quality, budget and league experience so we should be better but it obviously doesn’t always work that way.
Last season we stayed up but the other 2 teams that came up with us went down.
 

cc84cov

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  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #24
Torquay Sky Blue said:
Approaching 32 means nothing it's the If he gets fit (and it's a big if) we still have an excellent player at this level
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Late starter he was also
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #25
cc84cov said:
Late starter he was also
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Lol he was playing in the SPL when he was 20
 

AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #26
Tommo1993 said:
Stats also show RCC was one of our best. Now he plays for Welling United. Not sure how it can be measured by that.
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He was always measured on if he could cook back in the day.
 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #27
Ccfcisparks said:
Is it a mere coincidence then that our win percentage was a lot higher with Kelly?
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Yes. One man doesn’t make a team.
 

NortonSkyBlue

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  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #28
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Kelly will be fine to add that experience in games but I don't think he'll be seen as a starter ahead of Hamer and Sheaf unless either of them play really poorly. Given his injury record it's likely he'd spend some time out anyway.

If we're looking to have a back-up to bring on Kelly fits the bill fine (and Eccles the same when he's back). Using part of the budget for a back-up CM wouldn't be a good use of funds IMO. If we go for a CM it'd have to be as an upgrade for the first team and I don't reckon we've got enough money for that. Perhaps a loanee?
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Kelly is head and shoulders above Sheaf and Hamer and is the missing link IMO. Both players need a player like Kelly to make sense their movement.
 
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SBAndy

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  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #29
Torquay Sky Blue said:
Approaching 32 means nothing it's the If he gets fit (and it's a big if) we still have an excellent player at this level
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Let’s not kid ourselves, he’s not an excellent player at this level.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #30
Kelly is the new Max
 
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cc84cov

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  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #31
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Lol he was playing in the SPL when he was 20
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Hold on I’m on about Biamou here wtf am I talking about
 

Tommo1993

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  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #32
There have been times in the past where Kelly has had the same effect as Reda Johnson. Randomly looked completely different, and worse, without him. Team changed since then but I still think he’s a major, key player.
 

Evo1883

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  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #33
Ccfcisparks said:
Usually I love a good bed wetting situation but I feel this season will genuinely be comfortable. I don’t feel like the league has improved, and there are some terrible teams including Derby and Peterborough, and from what I heard yesterday we are starting to look like a good team. In this league we will have games like those. We have Godden, Kelly, Eccles all to come back in as well as a loan player likely. I still think we will end up anywhere from 14th-18th.
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Evo1883

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  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #34
Yep , we looked good In large parts yesterday , lightyears ahead of where we were after 2 games last season where we were behind on fitness and a bit overwhelmed by the level .. we will be fine
 
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better days

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  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #35
Grendel said:
Ive never criticised him but you have to be realistic - he’s approaching 32 has had several injuries and we have signed central midfielders with transfer values collectively of over £2 million and the general consensus is we need another
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You often talk sense G but remember that Kelly's injury last season was caused by crashing into a post attempting to clear a goal bound shot
He'd finally recovered from that and was back training then got a really bad dose of covid, one of the worst cases at the club
Kelly is one of our most diligent trainers and looks after himself off the pitch too so with a bit of luck we can look forward to having him back soon and hopefully get an extended run in the team
 
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