People blame all kinds of third parties before their beloved club
Is this one of the legends?That Garys message talks some utter shite. If these wasps legends own the badge and name etc then that’s all they own. They don’t get conditions on where they can play?! From whom? The RFU? The RFU haven’t even rubber stamped there takeover and may never will!
Why would a buying party be so bloody stupid to want to move to the same city that finished them as a rugby club that utterly loathes them and go again and make it work in front of 2,000 fools? It’s simply not cost effective and I’m pretty sure any groups takeover by ‘legends’ lol will mean a move to the London area.
Aren’t the people who own the training ground former Wasps directors?Which is owned by somebody else so they would need a new lease / rental agreement.
I can't see that being cheap compared to something like Broad Street when they were using that.
Chris Holland owns it, well from when the bonds defaulted, and is a former director.Aren’t the people who own the training ground former Wasps directors?
Haven’t they just been relegated, not expelled from their pyramid?Personally, I can't see them reforming for a good couple of years, and a good few leagues lower than where they were.
If I was a BH, I would try to stop any attempt of the club reforming until I got repaid in full.
No. To both. They have a male voice choir as a squad. They are less marketable than Cov in Cov.Unpopular opinion:
Scenario:
Frasers own ACL but don’t buy CCFC. ACL is run as a stand alone business entity. Naturally, the higher the revenue the better.
Scenario:
Cov paying (£600k?) per year to ACL is deemed to be not enough and pressure is out upon CCFC for more rent. ACL goes crying to council / doesn’t upkeep stadium / pitch / turn on under soil heating etc. Also, costs of F&B overheads and Hospitality for 24-30 rather than 50 days per year has impact on synergy costs etc.
Or:
Wasps given rent arrangements of £200k per year in Champ and £600k in Premiership and ACL overheads are split. Obviously, ACL to guarantee pristine pitch and upkeep.
Of course we all want the CBS to ourselves and the pitch in A1 condition. However, ACL will want to maximise return and I think we have to prepare for what seems inevitable:
Wasps are still a big brand and with the training ground nearby I can see ACL having them back. They will generate more revenue than anyone else in their Championship, have better players and more appeal to recruit players and probably walk their division. Prem Rugby and a bit of revenue again in 2 years without all their debt and (possibly?) the hassle of running the CBS.
As I said, I think we need to brace ourselves for the inevitable.
Are they? Have they ever been?Wasps are still a big brand
Alright. Rosslyn Park have a bigger brand value in Rugby circles than Wasps.Are they? Have they ever been?
In English Rugby you'd have Leicester, Northampton Saints, Bath, and even Gloucester ahead of them. You might have a case for London clubs them having a decent position for profile and representation, but they gave that up and Harlequins would arguably have been the bigger brand, and Saracens' success would mask over any claim they made. Historially Cov, Moseley, even Rosslyn Park would be bigger.
SoI'm not convinced they're that huge brand wise, and their move to Coventry has probably damaged *that* somewhat too.
Might have known you'd be as, well... clueless as ever and be unable to read.Alright. Rosslyn Park have a bigger brand value in Rugby circles than Wasps.
There there never mind
Let’s see.
I think I have said this before, but what would the additional costs of maintaining a football quality pitch which has rugby played on it compared to if there was only rugby? The additional match days would/ could also interfere with conferencing, exhibition and hotel operations/income. The £200k you hypothesise would be far too low.Unpopular opinion:
Scenario:
Frasers own ACL but don’t buy CCFC. ACL is run as a stand alone business entity. Naturally, the higher the revenue the better.
Scenario:
Cov paying (£600k?) per year to ACL is deemed to be not enough and pressure is out upon CCFC for more rent. ACL goes crying to council / doesn’t upkeep stadium / pitch / turn on under soil heating etc. Also, costs of F&B overheads and Hospitality for 24-30 rather than 50 days per year has impact on synergy costs etc.
Or:
Wasps given rent arrangements of £200k per year in Champ and £600k in Premiership and ACL overheads are split. Obviously, ACL to guarantee pristine pitch and upkeep.
Of course we all want the CBS to ourselves and the pitch in A1 condition. However, ACL will want to maximise return and I think we have to prepare for what seems inevitable:
Wasps are still a big brand and with the training ground nearby I can see ACL having them back. They will generate more revenue than anyone else in their Championship, have better players and more appeal to recruit players and probably walk their division. Prem Rugby and a bit of revenue again in 2 years without all their debt and (possibly?) the hassle of running the CBS.
As I said, I think we need to brace ourselves for the inevitable.
You are going on mute with your sidekick Grendel. Boring. Bye.Might have known you'd be as, well... clueless as ever and be unable to read.
Thank fuck for that. You're such a ridiculous caricature then life will be a lot easier without your total inability to understand the simplest thing.You are going in mute with your sidekick Grendel. Boring. Bye.
Alright £200k too low but the point was one season. Don’t get hung up on the one figure, with respect, it’s sad, - it’s the overall point that I’m driving at. All through recent history, Ranson, Fisher et al talked about “sweating maximum value out of the arena”. If Wasps brings more net revenue from rent, advertising, footfall etc then conferences would then they’ll take that.I think I have said this before, but what would the additional costs of maintaining a football quality pitch which has rugby played on it compared to if there was only rugby. The additional match days would/ could also interfere with conferencing, exhibition and hotel operations/income. The £200k you hypothesise would be far too low.
Arguing that we should sign Kyle Hudlin because he’s really really tallYou are going on mute with your sidekick Grendel. Boring. Bye.
This is the maddest thing you've posted since you wanted us to sign that giant carthorse from Solihull after watching him play once on skyAlright £200k too low but the point was one season. Don’t get hung up on the one figure, with respect, it’s sad, - it’s the overall point that I’m driving at. All through recent history, Ranson, Fisher et al talked about “sweating maximum value out of the arena”. If Wasps brings more net revenue from rent, advertising, footfall etc then conferences would then they’ll take that.
Unless you tell me I’m wrong
Very few CCFC fans want Wasps back, including me. However, with King not buying ACL and MA being MA I can see whoever is charged with running ACL thinking more about ACL bottom line than if we have a bobbly pitch.
Again, I suggest we prepare for the worst.
Haven’t they just been relegated, not expelled from their pyramid?
Arguing that we should sign Kyle Hudlin because he’s really really tall
Arguing that Dominic Hyam was posting on here for 2 years and made up a fake age to throw people off the scent
Arguing that the CCFC wage bill is £3-4 million
Arguing that CCFC really owe £60 million to SISU and that this is the asking price
Arguing that Wasps, a bankrupt rugby club who struggled to get anyone to pay to watch them play, is still a big brand
All that alone is the mark of a moron. But what really clinched it for me was arguing that NW is the sidekick of Grendel. Your hit rate is worse than the BFG you wanted us to sign
Genuinely hope you are right.Oranges and apples. Can't see the administration ending any time soon. Think it has a few good years to drag on yet, making Wasps a dead fish in the water.
No,This is the maddest thing you've posted since you wanted us to sign that giant carthorse from Solihull after watching him play once on sky
You fought him anyway?Thank fuck for that. You're such a ridiculous caricature then life will be a lot easier without your total inability to understand the simplest thing.
It'll also save me in breaking the sage advice to never engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man!
I knowYou fought him anyway?
Pay better attention
I had a WTF moment too for a while.
Pay better attention
One does horrendously complex graphs, one does mentalism in a pure form.Sounds to me like you are the one who needs to pay better attention.
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