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Wasps owner Derek Richardson explains Coventry move and rejects "franchise" tag (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Apr 15, 2015
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Grendel

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  • Apr 21, 2015
  • #211
Intheknow said:
So much of the deal is public knowledge you have to wonder why people continue to spout rubbish on here.
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/wasps-rfc-accounts-reveal-63m-8720201
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So you admit you know fuck all just what the telegraph says?

Who owns the shares in Moonstone and why if that is the company in Valetta is it owned by another Maltese finance company - mgi? Can you confirm Richardson is the sole shareholder in that company?

Go on for once prove you know something please
 

chiefdave

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  • Apr 21, 2015
  • #212
Isn't that CT piece about the accounts before they took over ACL? How does that show they paid £1m off the loan or is it CT guesswork? Is there anything from the council that actually confirms the change of terms to the loan and any down payment?
 

olderskyblue

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  • Apr 22, 2015
  • #213
chiefdave said:
Isn't that CT piece about the accounts before they took over ACL? How does that show they paid £1m off the loan or is it CT guesswork? Is there anything from the council that actually confirms the change of terms to the loan and any down payment?
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The latest accounts cover the period before Wasps took control of Ricoh Arena operating company for a total of £5.54million in November. As part of that deal, Wasps made an initial £1million down payment on a £14.4million loan to ACL from Coventry City Council.
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Seems quite clear?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 22, 2015
  • #214
So where does the 250 year lease come into it? What did they pay for that
 

lordsummerisle

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  • Apr 22, 2015
  • #215
olderskyblue said:
Seems quite clear?
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Still CT guesswork, "commercial confidentiality" and all that.
 

olderskyblue

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  • Apr 22, 2015
  • #216
lordsummerisle said:
Still CT guesswork, "commercial confidentiality" and all that.
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I expect to see "understands" in articles when it is unsubstantiated, this doesn't have that. Maybe Simon can confirm one way or the other?
 

chiefdave

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  • Apr 22, 2015
  • #217
olderskyblue said:
Seems quite clear?
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Not really, any enquiries about anything to do with the deal are met with 'confidential'. If you look at that CT piece that's not a quote so where have CT sourced that information from, its certainly not been made public by CCC.

And of course if that £1m was not, as some guessed, a payment for the additional 200 years on the lease what has been paid for that, surely its not been handed over for free or a peppercorn rent?
 

Moff

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  • Apr 22, 2015
  • #218
Intheknow said:
Very true. Knowledge helps. But many on here profess knowledge but clearly have none.
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Dont be too hard on yourself sunshine, when you do get some knowledge about something I will be waiting with big congratulations. Stay strong!
 
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Intheknow

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  • Apr 26, 2015
  • #219
chiefdave said:
Not really, any enquiries about anything to do with the deal are met with 'confidential'. If you look at that CT piece that's not a quote so where have CT sourced that information from, its certainly not been made public by CCC.

And of course if that £1m was not, as some guessed, a payment for the additional 200 years on the lease what has been paid for that, surely its not been handed over for free or a peppercorn rent?
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I suspect that we might find out soon whether Les Reid was correct that the Council wrote off £1m of the facility granted to ACL or if he was correct that an extension of the lease over the Ricoh was given at no cost.

If I was a betting man, then I suspect that Les might look a bit stupid.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 26, 2015
  • #220
So it was given for free? What PR statement will it be?
 
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Intheknow

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  • Apr 26, 2015
  • #221
Nick said:
So it was given for free? What PR statement will it be?
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i wonder if one of my posts some time ago provides the answer.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 26, 2015
  • #222
Why not just answer?
 

Moff

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  • Apr 26, 2015
  • #223
Intheknow said:
I suspect that we might find out soon whether Les Reid was correct that the Council wrote off £1m of the facility granted to ACL or if he was correct that an extension of the lease over the Ricoh was given at no cost.

If I was a betting man, then I suspect that Les might look a bit stupid.
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If you are truly 'In the Know' surely you know whether Les Reid will look stupid or not, as surely writing 'might' undermines the conviction of what you have written?
 
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Intheknow

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  • Apr 27, 2015
  • #224
Moff said:
If you are truly 'In the Know' surely you know whether Les Reid will look stupid or not, as surely writing 'might' undermines the conviction of what you have written?
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Poor old Les.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 27, 2015
  • #225
Intheknow said:
Poor old Les.
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Ah good why don't we visit the other thread now and explain what is going on regarding this bond - you know the one exclusively revealed by Les Reid a couple of weeks ago.
 

Nick

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  • Apr 27, 2015
  • #226
Intheknow said:
Poor old Les.
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Looks like he was a couple of weeks ahead of the press with the last one? Not far off at all was he?
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 27, 2015
  • #227
Pretty much spot on with the Bond story, wasn't he?

Intheknow said:
Poor old Les.
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oldfiver

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  • May 1, 2015
  • #228
Moff said:
If you are truly 'In the Know' surely you know whether Les Reid will look stupid or not, as surely writing 'might' undermines the conviction of what you have written?
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I am sure he is "In the know" because there always is a sting in the tail in his posts

Now why can that be?
 
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