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  • Start date Apr 13, 2023
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TomRad85

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  • May 5, 2023
  • #71
MusicDating said:
Post from Worcs fan on DrunkenWasps -
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You have to ask how big of a c**t would someone have to be to go and watch Wasps. Surely the most embarrassing sports club on the planet.

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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • May 5, 2023
  • #72
Probably the most detestable supports of any sport or club in the country. They’re a proper vile bunch.
 
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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • May 5, 2023
  • #73
To be fair to them a quick look at the Wasps boards show most of them are far from happy about this situation. Apart from Shugs of course who thinks its all brilliant and they'll be in the Premiership in no time at all
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

Well-Known Member
  • May 5, 2023
  • #74
Awaiting Shugs: “it’s all a conspiracy, Chris Holland only wants what’s best for Wasps and Worcester. Looking forward to sharing six ways with Worcester and the community”
 

shepardo01

Well-Known Member
  • May 5, 2023
  • #75
MusicDating said:
Post from Worcs fan on DrunkenWasps -
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Sounds slightly familiar... anybody been on the Worcester site and told them how W**ps behaved here and in Henley in Arden?...
 

shepardo01

Well-Known Member
  • May 5, 2023
  • #76
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Awaiting Shugs: “it’s all a conspiracy, Chris Holland only wants what’s best for Wasps and Worcester. Looking forward to sharing six ways with Worcester and the community”
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Am I right in thinking Holland is Richardsons mate who he transferred the training ground to ??
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • May 9, 2023
  • #77
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 9, 2023
  • #78
shepardo01 said:
Am I right in thinking Holland is Richardsons mate who he transferred the training ground to ??
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To be fair they hated each other so much in the the end they literally wouldn’t be in the same room together
 
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Ccfcsj

Well-Known Member
  • May 9, 2023
  • #79

Worcester Warriors: Supporters' group urges RFU to block Wasps' bid to move to Sixways​

Worcester Warriors: Supporters' group urges RFU to block Wasps' bid to move to Sixways

A Worcester fans' group has urged the Rugby Football Union to reject Wasps' bid to play at Sixways.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • May 9, 2023
  • #80
Not sure they will block it, doubt Chris Holland would have thrown money at it if he didn't already know it was a go-er.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 9, 2023
  • #81
 
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duffer

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  • May 9, 2023
  • #82
Nick said:
Not sure they will block it, doubt Chris Holland would have thrown money at it if he didn't already know it was a go-er.
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The RFU are much like the EFL. Incompetent bottlers, basically.

It's an absolute stitch up of a(nother) club by Wasps owners.

If Holland doesn't fund it (by in effect securing his loan against the ground) then the Atlas deal for Warriors falls through and Worcester at least get a slim second chance at finding someone who can keep them going.

It's as bent as a nine bob note, which is why the RFU will almost certainly wave it through.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 9, 2023
  • #83
Lol couldn’t make it up

Lawrence Dallaglio given time to clear tax debt of around £700,000

Judge Sebastian Prentis considered the former England rugby star's case at an Insolvency and Companies Court hearing in London.
www.irishnews.com
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • May 9, 2023
  • #84
Grendel said:
Lol couldn’t make it up

Lawrence Dallaglio given time to clear tax debt of around £700,000

Judge Sebastian Prentis considered the former England rugby star's case at an Insolvency and Companies Court hearing in London.
www.irishnews.com
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He's asking in his latest podcast whether the players should have greater say in the running of the game.
 
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rexo87

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  • May 10, 2023
  • #85
Nick said:
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Love that. Brilliant last paragraph

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djr8369

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  • May 10, 2023
  • #86
Nick said:
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Sums the scum up nicely. You’ve got to feel sorry for any community that they turn up in.
 
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Frostie

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  • May 10, 2023
  • #87
djr8369 said:
Sums the scum up nicely. You’ve got to feel sorry for any community that they turn up in.
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Literally parasites.
 
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Grendel

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  • May 10, 2023
  • #88
It seems from an article today Richardson is arguing his loans should be classed as a rugby creditor - he has lodged legal action against a former directors solicitor firm

The wasps new consortium are arguing image rights fees (basically a dodge to get out of the salary cap) are not valid for payment

in other news Shugs is unhappy at Worcester and Coventry fans ruining the forums with distortions of the and should look at their own failed businesses rather than one that’s getting ready to thrive and offer people great rugby. Worcester fans should get on board the wasps train as the only way of saving rugby in Worcester
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • May 10, 2023
  • #89
What so Richardson is arguing he should be paid back? ha
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • May 10, 2023
  • #90
Nick said:
What so Richardson is arguing he should be paid back? ha
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Tbf wouldn't you?

Doesn't mean he will, but if he ends up stalling the resurrected Wasps enough that they can't take their place in the league, maybe he wasn't so bad after all
 
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MalcSB

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  • May 10, 2023
  • #91
Deleted member 5849 said:
Tbf wouldn't you?

Doesn't mean he will, but if he ends up stalling the resurrected Wasps enough that they can't take their place in the league, maybe he wasn't so bad after all
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Richardson’s legal action is against his advisers, not Wasps so won’t affect them. That argument will be separate from the rugby creditors one.

To be classed as a rugby creditor, a creditor has to be entirely or predominantly reliant on rugby income. Players and equipment supplier can easily show that, I doubt Richardson could.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

Well-Known Member
  • May 10, 2023
  • #92
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Grendel said:
It seems from an article today Richardson is arguing his loans should be classed as a rugby creditor - he has lodged legal action against a former directors solicitor firm

The wasps new consortium are arguing image rights fees (basically a dodge to get out of the salary cap) are not valid for payment

in other news Shugs is unhappy at Worcester and Coventry fans ruining the forums with distortions of the and should look at their own failed businesses rather than one that’s getting ready to thrive and offer people great rugby. Worcester fans should get on board the wasps train as the only way of saving rugby in Worcester
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fucking hell - Shugs is trotting out the same shit he was saying 9 years ago. Surely there’s got to be a point where you think - “we’re the common denominator”
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

Well-Known Member
  • May 10, 2023
  • #93
This Richardson bloke seems to like court he always seems to be arguing with somebody.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

Well-Known Member
  • May 10, 2023
  • #94
Did the bond holders get much of their investment back in the end?
 

jordan210

Well-Known Member
  • May 10, 2023
  • #95
Terry Gibson's perm said:
Did the bond holders get much of their investment back in the end?
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Like everything with wasps no one has a clue. it appears very messy as some have been told they are getting paid others not. No one knows how much they are going to get.

Basicly like everything wasps touches it goes to shit
 
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oldfiver

Well-Known Member
  • May 10, 2023
  • #96
Terry Gibson's perm said:
Did the bond holders get much of their investment back in the end?
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Roughly 39% as an interim
Possible extra 5%
Getting little of the PRU shares money
 

MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • May 10, 2023
  • #97
Times article -
https://archive.ph/WuyUS
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 10, 2023
  • #98
MalcSB said:
Richardson’s legal action is against his advisers, not Wasps so won’t affect them. That argument will be separate from the rugby creditors one.

To be classed as a rugby creditor, a creditor has to be entirely or predominantly reliant on rugby income. Players and equipment supplier can easily show that, I doubt Richardson could.
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One thing I do know from a source that’s 99% reliable is Richardson and Holland were at loggerheads for months before the demise and in the end was so bad they couldn’t be seen in the same room together
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • May 10, 2023
  • #99
Grendel said:
One thing I do know from a source that’s 99% reliable is Richardson and Holland were at loggerheads for months before the demise and in the end was so bad they couldn’t be seen in the same room together
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Always knew you were best mates with Nick Eastwood
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 10, 2023
  • #100
Deleted member 5849 said:
Always knew you were best mates with Nick Eastwood
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As one poster said never trust a man who wears Farrah trousers and plastic slip on shoes
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • May 10, 2023
  • #101
Grendel said:
As one poster said never trust a man who wears Farrah trousers and plastic slip on shoes
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tbf don't think anybody does trust you around these parts?
 
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djr8369

Well-Known Member
  • May 10, 2023
  • #102
Grendel said:
It seems from an article today Richardson is arguing his loans should be classed as a rugby creditor - he has lodged legal action against a former directors solicitor firm

The wasps new consortium are arguing image rights fees (basically a dodge to get out of the salary cap) are not valid for payment

in other news Shugs is unhappy at Worcester and Coventry fans ruining the forums with distortions of the and should look at their own failed businesses rather than one that’s getting ready to thrive and offer people great rugby. Worcester fans should get on board the wasps train as the only way of saving rugby in Worcester
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The image rights fees, assume that’s money still owed to ex-players?
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • May 10, 2023
  • #103
I don't feel sorry for Richardson as such but I have a degree of empathy in that he was the one who actually put some money in. He'll see it as he's made a loss and Holland has picked up a training ground and the club's branding.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 10, 2023
  • #104
fernandopartridge said:
I don't feel sorry for Richardson as such but I have a degree of empathy in that he was the one who actually put some money in. He'll see it as he's made a loss and Holland has picked up a training ground and the club's branding.
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Who paid for the training ground in the first place though?
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • May 10, 2023
  • #105
fernandopartridge said:
I don't feel sorry for Richardson as such but I have a degree of empathy in that he was the one who actually put some money in. He'll see it as he's made a loss and Holland has picked up a training ground and the club's branding.
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But with investments you're told the value can go down as well as up and your capital is at risk. That's why the returns are higher.

If you provide a service to someone as part of a contract then it's a fair expectation to be paid for those services. I'd certainly say they've got a much stronger claim to be recompensed.

And I don't agree with rugby/football creditor rules - I think if you've provided the service you should have the same right as any other provider. But I think they should all take precedence over a capital investor.
 
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