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Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC (7 Viewers)

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Mcbean

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  • Oct 12, 2022
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Got to be taking the piss haven’t they? Why the hell would we support them?

they really are oblivious to their effect on us aren’t they
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Wanky wasp more like - has blanked the whole sorry story from birth !
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 12, 2022
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Got to be taking the piss haven’t they? Why the hell would we support them?

they really are oblivious to their effect on us aren’t they
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She is 85 to be fair
 
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jordan210

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  • Oct 12, 2022
  • #1,683
fernandopartridge said:
Wasps don't employ them directly though do they? it's via IEC experience and they are not under notice of administration
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There accounts are overdue. Probs not in NOI as its not a Richardson company. owned by Eastwood
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Oct 12, 2022
  • #1,684
Grendel said:
She is 85 to be fair
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And she gets a like from me for the use of coterie.
 
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Skyblueweeman

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  • Oct 12, 2022
  • #1,685
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Got to be taking the piss haven’t they? Why the hell would we support them?

they really are oblivious to their effect on us aren’t they
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Quite possibly the most delusional thing I've ever read on SBT (and beats some strong contenders).

* The post from the Wasps forum - not your comment HDW!
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Oct 12, 2022
  • #1,686
Grendel said:
She is 85 to be fair
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Doesn’t stop the fact she’s oblivious to the effect on us. I assume she’s just followed the telegraph on the facts of this?

I can understand that view if that’s the case
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 12, 2022
  • #1,687
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Doesn’t stop the fact she’s oblivious to the effect on us. I assume she’s just followed the telegraph on the facts of this?

I can understand that view if that’s the case
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She follows the forum guy Vulgaris who has claimed to be in the know and basically is a clueless idiot. He bans his own supporters who do not tow the line

I don’t think laughing at her is especially helpful. She’s 85, has I think Parkinson’s (why she calls herself Wonky) and enjoys her day out - I feel a bit sorry for her in truth
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Oct 12, 2022
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Grendel said:
She follows the forum guy Vulgaris who has claimed to be in the know and basically is a clueless idiot. He bans his own supporters who do not tow the line

I don’t think laughing at her is especially helpful. She’s 85, has I think Parkinson’s (why she calls herself Wonky) and enjoys her day out - I feel a bit sorry for her in truth
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I’m not laughing g at her, it’s more the shock at the commenting on lack of support from us.

if It’s a case of getting a one eyed view of the situation it’s understandable.
 
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TomRad85

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  • Oct 12, 2022
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
I’m not laughing g at her, it’s more the shock at the commenting on lack of support from us.

if It’s a case of getting a one eyed view of the situation it’s understandable.
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Tbf have you ever met anyone in their 80s who will have their mind changed on anything? If what G says is accurate it's possibly the first time I've felt sorry for a Wasps fan. It's the old granny thing that does it I think.

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jordan210

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  • Oct 12, 2022
  • #1,690
All the times people on Drunken wasps claimed SBT was chatting rubbish when we mentioned how poorly wasps where doing.


 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 12, 2022
  • #1,691
Remember when Andy Goode said people were speaking of them being in trouble because they were "Jealous" and their fans were creaming?
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Oct 12, 2022
  • #1,692
TomRad85 said:
Tbf have you ever met anyone in their 80s who will have their mind changed on anything? If what G says is accurate it's possibly the first time I've felt sorry for a Wasps fan. It's the old granny thing that does it I think.

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Valid point - My grandad was like that. He last went to watch us before st andrews and never went again.

felt sorry for him, like you said - might be the old granny thing. You do start to feel sorry because I assume like my grandad she’s been knocked for 6 by the housebound effects of Covid.

one of her big constants are likely to disappear, I suppose it is quite heartbreaking in that respect
 
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Warwickhunt

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  • Oct 12, 2022
  • #1,693
All we should be concerned about is that the stadium will still be available to CCFC whilst the money boys skin the fuck out of the WASPS who by the way are the fall guys for some rich bastards lining their pockets on adversity! Just like Richardson and Robinson did to us all those years ago.
 

MalcSB

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  • Oct 12, 2022
  • #1,694
Nick said:
I do like how Wasps fans are going on about "Rugby Family" and suddenly wondering why people are glad Wasps are fucked.

They don't realise that they were effectively cheating too, which is why other Rugby fans don't like them.
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They don’t accept that they cheated the moment they couldn’t pay what they owe,
 
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Frostie

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  • Oct 12, 2022
  • #1,695
This is apparently a Rugby correspondent for The Sunday Times... Has he done any research whatsoever?

 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Oct 12, 2022
  • #1,696
Frostie said:
This is apparently a Rugby correspondent for The Sunday Times... Has he done any research whatsoever?

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Not at a cost of £65m - £100m they’re not
 

shmmeee

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  • Oct 12, 2022
  • #1,697
Have they ever drawn 30k plus? For like a normal game?
 
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Nick

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  • Oct 12, 2022
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Sick Boy

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  • Oct 12, 2022
  • #1,699
Grendel said:
She follows the forum guy Vulgaris who has claimed to be in the know and basically is a clueless idiot. He bans his own supporters who do not tow the line

I don’t think laughing at her is especially helpful. She’s 85, has I think Parkinson’s (why she calls herself Wonky) and enjoys her day out - I feel a bit sorry for her in truth
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How do you know so much about her?!
 
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Nick

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  • Oct 12, 2022
  • #1,700
Sick Boy said:
How do you know so much about her?!
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Matched on Tinder.
 
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oldskyblue58

CCFC Finance Director
  • Oct 12, 2022
  • #1,701
jordan210 said:
There accounts are overdue. Probs not in NOI as its not a Richardson company. owned by Eastwood
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IEC are a 100% group member of wasps holdings

There are no charges registered against IEC so it is not part of any security given to bond or anyone else.

It deals with the conference and exhibition income side of the business which is operated by Delaware North. It about breaks even each year

is part of this whole shambles because owned by ACL directly 100% which is owned by wasps holdings 100%. Same situation for ACL 2006 ltd

it would be possible to extract that company from the wasps holdings group relatively easily if someone wanted to but i would suspect one of the larger creditors of wasps holdings group is Delaware North so a new owner might let that arrangement go

As it stands if a new owner wanted to hit the ground running then i would think that the only things they would want would be ACL 2006 ltd (for the head lease), the assets including current leases held by ACL (for the rights to income and stadium fixed assets) and IEC experience ltd to run it (assuming they dont have in house expertise to run it themselves)
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Oct 12, 2022
  • #1,702
One thing this scenario shows is that we were right all along. The council selling the Ricoh kept SISU around for longer.

now the stadium is back in play, we are an attractive proposition to new buyers. Had the council stuck to their guns they could have squeezed SISU out by finding a buyer willing to take stadium and football club
 
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Nick

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  • Oct 12, 2022
  • #1,703
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
One thing this scenario shows is that we were right all along. The council selling the Ricoh kept SISU around for longer.

now the stadium is back in play, we are an attractive proposition to new buyers. Had the council stuck to their guns they could have squeezed SISU out by finding a buyer willing to take stadium and football club
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This was obvious to most other then the council.

Surely even pre sisu?
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 12, 2022
  • #1,704
Sick Boy said:
How do you know so much about her?!
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Always a Wasp - Index

Always a Wasp - Index
onceawasp.com
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Oct 12, 2022
  • #1,705
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
One thing this scenario shows is that we were right all along. The council selling the Ricoh kept SISU around for longer.

now the stadium is back in play, we are an attractive proposition to new buyers. Had the council stuck to their guns they could have squeezed SISU out by finding a buyer willing to take stadium and football club
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Not only that they could have ended up looking good in the process by saying they were protecting a community asset.

Instead they allowed personalities get in the way, fucked the club, made the terrible owners stick around, had their hand in a year in Birmingham as well as ripping another club away from their community due to them also having unscrupulous hedge fund owners.
 
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AOM

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  • Oct 12, 2022
  • #1,706
shmmeee said:
Have they ever drawn 30k plus? For like a normal game?
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Apparently they got over 31,000 back in 2018 for their Christmas game, but I imagine the festive games are outliers.
Also wonder how many were still free tickets?
 

Tommo1993

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  • Oct 12, 2022
  • #1,707
Frostie said:
This is apparently a Rugby correspondent for The Sunday Times... Has he done any research whatsoever?

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Good reply with a laughable reply to it.
 
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Skyblueweeman

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  • Oct 12, 2022
  • #1,708
Grendel said:

Always a Wasp - Index

Always a Wasp - Index
onceawasp.com
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Have you got a spreadsheet for the Wasps forum as well?

'Filters information *Personal*, Filters name *Wonky*
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Oct 12, 2022
  • #1,709
Tommo1993 said:
Good reply with a laughable reply to it.
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Always the same deflector shields up must mention football.
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 12, 2022
  • #1,710
You have to have some sympathy for the supporters who have been with the club for years.

They are just an odd nomadic club that seems to totally accept the moving around is part of their being

it’s worth remembering a lot of people have been taken in by the total nonsense Sisu have spouted about new grounds so glass houses and all that

They have been sold down the river by their owners who have lied and denied everything and I suspect the end is pretty close but i think we should refrain a bit from gloating as if the FL hadn’t bent over backwards when we decided to wander round the midlands this could have Been us
 
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robbiekeane

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  • Oct 12, 2022
  • #1,711
Grendel said:
You have to have some sympathy for the supporters who have been with the club for years.

They are just an odd nomadic club that seems to totally accept the moving around is part of their being

it’s worth remembering a lot of people have been taken in by the total nonsense Sisu have spouted about new grounds so glass houses and all that

They have been sold down the river by their owners who have lied and denied everything and I suspect the end is pretty close but i think we should refrain a bit from gloating as if the FL hadn’t bent over backwards when we decided to wander round the midlands this could have Been us
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Maybe for the supporters who supported them in London etc but screw the rest of them. The difference in your scenario is that city fans weren’t laughing at any other clubs or bragging about the situation
 
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Skyblueweeman

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  • Oct 12, 2022
  • #1,712
Grendel said:
You have to have some sympathy for the supporters who have been with the club for years.

They are just an odd nomadic club that seems to totally accept the moving around is part of their being

it’s worth remembering a lot of people have been taken in by the total nonsense Sisu have spouted about new grounds so glass houses and all that

They have been sold down the river by their owners who have lied and denied everything and I suspect the end is pretty close but i think we should refrain a bit from gloating as if the FL hadn’t bent over backwards when we decided to wander round the midlands this could have Been us
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I think to be fair, that pretty much everyone on here has expressed some form of sympathy for the original supporters of Wasps - the ones from down South who went regularly and ended up with their club ripped away from them and moved 100 miles without a second thought about that original fanbase.

Any 'gloating' is for the demise of a divisive club who've shown no issue with turning up in a city with a top two tier rugby club already in existence, taking potential fan base from said rugby club and our own CCFC, a club who picked up a stadium built for us on the cheap (I know CCC are complicit), a club who weren't bothered about the folk of Henley when it came to taking a facility of them, a club who have taken £35 million from folk to finance a stadium they haven't been able to afford, a club that owe HMRC a few million, a club that likely owe local suppliers some much needed cash flow.

Original fans like your Tinder match, I do feel sorry for. But I don't so anyone gloating at such fans.
 
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Nick

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  • Oct 12, 2022
  • #1,713
Grendel said:
You have to have some sympathy for the supporters who have been with the club for years.

They are just an odd nomadic club that seems to totally accept the moving around is part of their being

it’s worth remembering a lot of people have been taken in by the total nonsense Sisu have spouted about new grounds so glass houses and all that

They have been sold down the river by their owners who have lied and denied everything and I suspect the end is pretty close but i think we should refrain a bit from gloating as if the FL hadn’t bent over backwards when we decided to wander round the midlands this could have Been us
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Original Supporters of plenty of years with generations of Wasps fans, yes they have my sympathy. I hope that "Wasps" will just move back down south in some form.

The new Coventry ones? Hilarious.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Oct 12, 2022
  • #1,714
Grendel said:
You have to have some sympathy for the supporters who have been with the club for years.

They are just an odd nomadic club that seems to totally accept the moving around is part of their being

it’s worth remembering a lot of people have been taken in by the total nonsense Sisu have spouted about new grounds so glass houses and all that

They have been sold down the river by their owners who have lied and denied everything and I suspect the end is pretty close but i think we should refrain a bit from gloating as if the FL hadn’t bent over backwards when we decided to wander round the midlands this could have Been us
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The problem is they just don’t accept their role in helping to harm us.

they’re nit the direct cause, but they tried to take advantage of a situation they didn’t understand nor should have been involved in,

since then they’ve refused to accept their role, and havE refused to understand how their presence has effected us.

all We’ve had from them is that we should be grateful to them, and that we should just be happy being second fiddle, and not feel welcome in a stadium built for us.

I have no sympathy because they shows us no sympathy - they showed us contempt. I’ll never forgive that
 
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MAFF

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  • Oct 12, 2022
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