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Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC (6 Viewers)

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Nick

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #13,091
slowpoke said:
How does this all work legally, the preferred bidder is reportedly offering to pay £15.8 million plus £1.2 million 17 in all & sisu, King whoever willing to offer £25 mill seemingly out of the blue. So had I won the Euros last night I could turn up this morning waving £30million under the judges’ nose which is basically what sisu are doing or saying I would think the judge will hear the preferred bid/offer that’s on the table today and rubber stamp it through, it’s nothing to do with who owns ccfc who are merely tenants at the moment as are the casino people for example. Basically a new landlord, Ashley takes over from the old landlord ACL. There was always a curve ball to be thrown and I suspect the Ashley camp expected one.
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Ashley will be bidding on the assumption CCFC play there. He could be in a situation where there's no club at the stadium he's buying.
 
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slowpoke

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #13,092
Where will we be playing then ?
 

AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #13,093
slowpoke said:
How does this all work legally, the preferred bidder is reportedly offering to pay £15.8 million plus £1.2 million 17 in all & sisu, King whoever willing to offer £25 mill seemingly out of the blue. So had I won the Euros last night I could turn up this morning waving £30million under the judges’ nose which is basically what sisu are doing or saying I would think the judge will hear the preferred bid/offer that’s on the table today and rubber stamp it through, it’s nothing to do with who owns ccfc who are merely tenants at the moment as are the casino people for example. Basically a new landlord, Ashley takes over from the old landlord ACL. There was always a curve ball to be thrown and I suspect the Ashley camp expected one.
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Ultimately a court should be ensuring the best possible outcome for people owed money here. If the court is now aware that there are parties willing to pay more for the business and people like the wasps bond holders could potentially receive more money back, then sensibly it goes to a bidding war.
 
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Kingokings204

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #13,094
AFCCOVENTRY said:
Ultimately a court should be ensuring the best possible outcome for people owed money here. If the court is now aware that there are parties willing to pay more for the business and people like the wasps bond holders could potentially receive more money back, then sensibly it goes to a bidding war.
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based on funds though. As was said I could state I have 30m for the cbs today. I don’t have it though and have I checked the books or the ground state? Neither of which can be great
 
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Happy_Martian

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #13,095
LIVE STREAM INFO: There ain't one

Found a list of live streams from the courts but regrettably, Court 25 isn't among them.

The Court of Appeal (Civil Division) - Live streaming of court hearings - Courts and Tribunals Judiciary

Working to improve public access to, and understanding of, the work of the courts
www.judiciary.uk


 

slowpoke

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #13,096
I’m not sure if these things become auctions perhaps they do surly a judge will look at the fact no other bids were officially on the table by today and judge on that.
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #13,097
AFCCOVENTRY said:
Ultimately a court should be ensuring the best possible outcome for people owed money here. If the court is now aware that there are parties willing to pay more for the business and people like the wasps bond holders could potentially receive more money back, then sensibly it goes to a bidding war.
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thats not at all what the court is there to do
 
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hutch1972

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #13,098
slowpoke said:
How does this all work legally, the preferred bidder is reportedly offering to pay £15.8 million plus £1.2 million 17 in all & sisu, King whoever willing to offer £25 mill seemingly out of the blue. So had I won the Euros last night I could turn up this morning waving £30million under the judges’ nose which is basically what sisu are doing or saying I would think the judge will hear the preferred bid/offer that’s on the table today and rubber stamp it through, it’s nothing to do with who owns ccfc who are merely tenants at the moment as are the casino people for example. Basically a new landlord, Ashley takes over from the old landlord ACL. There was always a curve ball to be thrown and I suspect the Ashley camp expected one.
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Exclusivity doesn't mean MA has to buy or ACL have to sell to him.
 

hutch1972

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #13,099
slowpoke said:
I’m not sure if these things become auctions perhaps they do surly a judge will look at the fact no other bids were officially on the table by today and judge on that.
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CCFC will have representation in court today to argue their case. What was a slam dunk 5 min job, will probably become a long day.
 

slowpoke

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #13,100
Perhaps that’s a good thing and if after listening and taking into account what they say and the judge comes out in favour of the preferred bid is that it.
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #13,101
slowpoke said:
Perhaps that’s a good thing and if after listening and taking into account what they say and the judge comes out in favour of the preferred bid is that it.
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Well unless someone seems To think another court case is appropriate
 
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hutch1972

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #13,102
Grendel said:
Well unless someone seems To think another court case is appropriate
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I'm sure that any creditors will have no problem joining together to get a better return, and no shortage of people to represent them.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #13,103
Is this likely to be a short hearing? If bond holders are now willing to accept the MA offer surely there isn’t much to discuss? It’s just procedural? Will SISU even be offered the stage to have their 2 pennies worth? Surely this is between MA, the administrator and ACL’s creditors. Are SISU classed as creditors? Maybe I guess if they’re due money back from bankrolling ACL enough that we didn’t cancel any games.
 

hutch1972

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #13,104
skybluetony176 said:
Is this likely to be a short hearing? If bond holders are now willing to accept the MA offer surely there isn’t much to discuss? It’s just procedural? Will SISU even be offered the stage to have their 2 pennies worth? Surely this is between MA, the administrator and ACL’s creditors. Are SISU classed as creditors? Maybe I guess if they’re due money back from bankrolling ACL enough that we didn’t cancel any games.
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There are no administrators atm. The ability to still fund ACL for a month is also a plus point.
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #13,105
skybluetony176 said:
Is this likely to be a short hearing? If bond holders are now willing to accept the MA offer surely there isn’t much to discuss? It’s just procedural? Will SISU even be offered the stage to have their 2 pennies worth? Surely this is between MA, the administrator and ACL’s creditors. Are SISU classed as creditors? Maybe I guess if they’re due money back from bankrolling ACL enough that we didn’t cancel any games.
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CCFC are creditors yes.
 
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oldfiver

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #13,106
skybluetony176 said:
Is this likely to be a short hearing? If bond holders are now willing to accept the MA offer surely there isn’t much to discuss? It’s just procedural? Will SISU even be offered the stage to have their 2 pennies worth? Surely this is between MA, the administrator and ACL’s creditors. Are SISU classed as creditors? Maybe I guess if they’re due money back from bankrolling ACL enough that we didn’t cancel any games.
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BH site reporting CCFC in court
 
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oldfiver

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #13,107
shmmeee said:
CCFC are creditors yes.
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Of ACL?
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #13,108
oldfiver said:
Of ACL?
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I swear I saw that from someone vaguely official yesterday. Maybe not, it’s all been a blur.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #13,109
shmmeee said:
I swear I saw that from someone vaguely official yesterday. Maybe not, it’s all been a blur.
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Super, super, super, super Doug said it this morning too.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #13,110
Nick said:
Super, super, super, super Doug said it this morning too.
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That’s probably what I’m thinking of
 

slowpoke

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #13,111
Grendel said:
Well unless someone seems To think another court case is appropriate
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But who can appeal if that’s what you are saying any decision made today, I don’t think sisu/ccfc can and it appears the bond holders are sitting back now
 

slowpoke

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #13,112
oldfiver said:
BH site reporting CCFC in court
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Who are ccfc Joy, Tim, Boddy ?
 

skybluetony176

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #13,113
slowpoke said:
Who are ccfc Joy, Tim, Boddy ?
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Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #13,114
slowpoke said:
Who are ccfc Joy, Tim, Boddy ?
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Is big mike there?
 
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jordan210

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #13,115
Is Richardson there. He has been very quite
 

shepardo01

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #13,116
Nick said:
Is big mike there?
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Crossing the T's and dotting the I's at the council House before case ends....
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #13,117
There goes the conspiracy theories about @GIMOC then
 

jordan210

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #13,118
shepardo01 said:

Crossing the T's and dotting the I's at the council House before case ends....
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This is my new fav twitter account.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #13,119
jordan210 said:
This is my new fav twitter account.
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Got a feeling it might be sisu.

I did think it was that bus lane camera guy
 

jordan210

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #13,120
Nick said:
Got a feeling it might be sisu.

I did think it was that bus lane camera guy
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Yeah has very similar vibes to that account. With claiming to have CCC leaks
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #13,121
Nick said:
Got a feeling it might be sisu.

I did think it was that bus lane camera guy
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Could be Ridley as well.

For me, if you’re an anonymous whistleblower account with secret info you post it, you don’t just post email footers or whatever.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #13,122
 

jordan210

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  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #13,123
Nick said:
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jordan210

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  • Nov 17, 2022
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Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 17, 2022
  • #13,125
If the company finances are so bad, you would think Richardson shouldn't get a sniff of any money from it.
 
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