Non AMP
Sky Blues Talk
  • Home
  • Forums
  • Coventry City Football Club
  • Coventry City General Chat
This is a mobile optimized page that loads fast, if you want to load the real page, click this text.

Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC (17 Viewers)

  • Thread starter Alkhen
  • Start date Sep 21, 2022
Forums New posts
Status
Not open for further replies.
Prev
  • 1
  • …
  • 325
  • 326
  • 327
  • 328
  • 329
  • …
  • 376
Next
First Prev 327 of 376 Next Last

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,411
shmmeee said:
He’ll have been asked for comment or even just given a heads up, I doubt they’ll have sent the article for approval.
Click to expand...
Would have been asked for a comment about reeves planning a bail out?
 

eastwoodsdustman

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,412
hill83 said:
So Duggins knew there was going to be an article published by the times? So surely he knew the content?
Click to expand...
Couldn't have been given much notice of it as Webber Shandwick weren't instructed.
 
Reactions: Fergusons_Beard

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,413
Never heard him say the club was taken to Birmingham of its own volition before. He doesn’t give a shit about his club does he?

Why so much heartache and passion for wasps and fuck all for ccfc. Sisu will come and go like all owners then football club has been here for 130 years ffs
 
Reactions: LastGarrison, Skyblueweeman, Fergusons_Beard and 11 others

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,414
Nick said:
Would have been asked for a comment about reeves planning a bail out?
Click to expand...

You’d have thought so wouldn’t you? I honestly have no idea in practice but either Reeves has gone wild and made the leader look stupid (not hard TBF) and should be disciplined, or Duggins is stupider than he looks (quite hard TBF) and lied about it when he must have known it would come out.
 
Reactions: Gynnsthetonic, eastwoodsdustman, Sky Blue Pete and 1 other person

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,415
hill83 said:
Makes sense.

But I'm going to assume the complete opposite anyway for now.
Click to expand...

I wouldn’t put anything past him. Just from what I know journalists usually do the “we’re doing a story on X do you want to comment?” Type contact.
 

skyblueeyesrevisited

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,416
Shameless wankers the lot of them.
 
D

Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,417
shmmeee said:
You’d have thought so wouldn’t you? I honestly have no idea in practice but either Reeves has gone wild and made the leader look stupid (not hard TBF) and should be disciplined, or Duggins is stupider than he looks (quite hard TBF) and lied about it when he must have known it would come out.
Click to expand...
Given how unequivocal the denials were, you'd assume the former rather than latter. Politicians tend to leave an out usually don't they, and he didn't.

If he has denied and it turns out he knew then yep, it's a resigning matter innit. I suspect the 'newer' Labour councillors may well be looking for an opportunity to strike, anyway.
 
Reactions: Sick Boy, ccfcchris and shmmeee

eastwoodsdustman

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,418
Nick, have you emailed Duggins back yet to see why his CEO seems to have (allegedly) gone rogue?
I really want to see his reply.
 
Reactions: SkyBlueSam01

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,419
Nick said:
The biggest worry is what the fuck they are up to now.
Click to expand...
something has seemed off about the Ashely thing from the start. a bit of a worry because the last thing we need is Sepalla and Ashley fighting with the club being damaged in the process
 
Reactions: Skyblueweeman, torchomatic and Nick

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,420
Deleted member 5849 said:
Given how unequivocal the denials were, you'd assume the former rather than latter. Politicians tend to leave an out usually don't they, and he didn't.

If he has denied and it turns out he knew then yep, it's a resigning matter innit. I suspect the 'newer' Labour councillors may well be looking for an opportunity to strike, anyway.
Click to expand...

Wouldn’t be a bad thing anyway TBF. Old guard needs clearing out.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,421
Deleted member 5849 said:
tbh I honestly don't quite know the processes, but the Chief Exec's job would be to come up with ideas, and then propose them to councillors who have the option to accept or reject them. In itself it's probably not an issue, but probably becomes one if George Duggins has been denying any involvement, continues to deny any involvement (and he has been unequivocal on that, hasn't he) and then it comes to light in a high profile case that makes Duggins look like a clueless moron [space for obvious comment left here].
Click to expand...
I totally get the chief exec has a high level of autonomy from the councillors but I find it very hard to believe that Reeves is discussing using tens of millions of taxpayers money to bail out Wasps and nobody on the council knew anything about it.

Surely before anything major even gets discussed its run past people to see if its a non-starter. You can't have the chief exec wasting huge amounts of time and money on whatever he feels like without a vague idea if it has any chance of moving forward.
 
Reactions: jordan210, torchomatic and Colin Steins Smile

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,422
chiefdave said:
I totally get the chief exec has a high level of autonomy from the councillors but I find it very hard to believe that Reeves is discussing using tens of millions of taxpayers money to bail out Wasps and nobody on the council knew anything about it.

Surely before anything major even gets discussed its run past people to see if its a non-starter. You can't have the chief exec wasting huge amounts of time and money on whatever he feels like without a vague idea if it has any chance of moving forward.
Click to expand...

Surely no one could have thought it would get past council?

The emails from various councillors seemed very much “over my dead body” and he must know Ridley was looking to make hay over it.

I honestly can’t think why this ever made it past the “random idea after a night in the pub” stage.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,423
eastwoodsdustman said:
Nick, have you emailed Duggins back yet to see why his CEO seems to have (allegedly) gone rogue?
I really want to see his reply.
Click to expand...

“The Chief Exec often investigates possibilities before presenting them back to the council. At no point would the council have agreed to this”

Would be my guess.
 
Reactions: Hiraeth and eastwoodsdustman
D

Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,424
chiefdave said:
I totally get the chief exec has a high level of autonomy from the councillors but I find it very hard to believe that Reeves is discussing using tens of millions of taxpayers money to bail out Wasps and nobody on the council knew anything about it.
Click to expand...
Well... to get a chance of something being approved, you need to work up a vaguely viable plan, and that needs talking to people to happen. Even at a lower level I've known of possible projects that would have cost £millions being worked up into proposals. And no, they didn't get approved!

You start with everyone knowing a problem, and it's down to the employees to come up with a palatable solution. In this instance, it appears, on the surface at least, that this solution was not palatable.
 
Reactions: shmmeee

skyblueeyesrevisited

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,425
Clearly the council have lied about not being in talks. Reeves as CEO represents the council. Duggins must have known what he was up to if Reeves thought it was a goer.
 
R

robbiethemole

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,426
Corruption and lies over anything to do with Wasps, they can't ever look to have fucked it all up. Millions of pounds of taxpayers money nearly given to a failing enterprise secretly, maybe Ridley should be putting the knife in on Reeves and getting to the truth of the matter?
He must know how to instigate an investigation into the deals, don't want Reeves just resigning and whitewashing the whole shitfest, he needs to answer for his wrongdoing
 
Reactions: Skyblueweeman and duffer

Colin Steins Smile

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,427
If Reeves developed a funding package for Wasps Holdings, which was presented to their WH board without approval by CCC members, then surely that will constitute a case for gross misconduct to be investigated?
 

AFCCOVENTRY

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,428
This council is done.
 
Reactions: Saddlebrains

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,429
Colin Steins Smile said:
If Reeves developed a funding package for Wasps Holdings, which was presented to their WH board without approval by CCC members, then surely that will constitute a case for gross misconduct to be investigated?
Click to expand...
Would be random that so many people knew but not councillors...
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,430
Nick said:
Would be random that so many people knew but not councillors...
Click to expand...

That’s what the Labour Group meeting would have been. That’s when they’d have been told (well the Labour ones, if it got past that then it would obviously have had to go to the council).
 

MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,431
shmmeee said:
Surely no one could have thought it would get past council?

The emails from various councillors seemed very much “over my dead body” and he must know Ridley was looking to make hay over it.

I honestly can’t think why this ever made it past the “random idea after a night in the pub” stage.
Click to expand...
Reeves must have thought it was possible.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,432
shmmeee said:
Surely no one could have thought it would get past council?

The emails from various councillors seemed very much “over my dead body” and he must know Ridley was looking to make hay over it.

I honestly can’t think why this ever made it past the “random idea after a night in the pub” stage.
Click to expand...
Reeves obviously did.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,433
Nick said:
Reeves obviously did.
Click to expand...

Man’s a fucking idiot then.
 
Reactions: oldfiver

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,434
shmmeee said:
Man’s a fucking idiot then.
Click to expand...
Yet he's still running the show.
 

MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,435
shmmeee said:
Man’s a fucking idiot then.
Click to expand...
During my time as Chief Executive of a publicly funded organisation, I would have discussed the “envelope” within which I could operate in any discussions of such a nature with the chairman. I find it hard to believe that such an experienced CE would not have done so especially given the sensitivities of which he would be only too aware. If he didn’t, then he is a fucking idiot and should fall on his sword.
 
Last edited: Nov 11, 2022
Reactions: nicksar, skysblue and chiefdave

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,436
chiefdave said:
but the council have no influence or involvement. must mean The Times are part of the conspiracy against the council
Click to expand...

 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,437
Nick said:
Yet he's still running the show.
Click to expand...

Let’s hope this has done him. How does a Chief Exec get sacked?
 
Reactions: Gynnsthetonic

olderskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,438
shmmeee said:
Let’s hope this has done him. How does a Chief Exec get sacked?
Click to expand...
Ethics committee?
 

Gynnsthetonic

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,439
shmmeee said:
Let’s hope this has done him. How does a Chief Exec get sacked?
Click to expand...
Good question, who is he accountable too?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,440
olderskyblue said:
Ethics committee?
Click to expand...
They will just change any rules he has broken.
 
D

Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,441
shmmeee said:
Let’s hope this has done him. How does a Chief Exec get sacked?
Click to expand...
In my experience, they tend to resign for a new challenge.

That said, that was the traditional world-order, before certain people came along and changed how it worked...
 
Reactions: duffer, DazzleTommyDazzle, torchomatic and 1 other person

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,442
olderskyblue said:
Ethics committee?
Click to expand...

Thought that was more for councillors. Can the council just vote him off like Big Brother?
 
Reactions: SkyBlueinLondon

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,443
shmmeee said:
Let’s hope this has done him. How does a Chief Exec get sacked?
Click to expand...
With a huge payout
 
Reactions: Frostie, Terry Gibson's perm, shmmeee and 3 others

Gynnsthetonic

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,444
shmmeee said:
Thought that was more for councillors. Can the council just vote him off like Big Brother?
Click to expand...
Or I'm a Celebrity
 

slowpoke

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,445
shmmeee said:
Let’s hope this has done him. How does a Chief Exec get sacked?
Click to expand...
They don’t, but after the chancellors cut backs next Wednesday every chance of redundancies at councils, would be a nice payout.
 
Prev
  • 1
  • …
  • 325
  • 326
  • 327
  • 328
  • 329
  • …
  • 376
Next
First Prev 327 of 376 Next Last
Status
Not open for further replies.

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 15 (members: 0, guests: 15)
Share:
Facebook Twitter Reddit Pinterest Tumblr WhatsApp Email
  • Home
  • Forums
  • Coventry City Football Club
  • Coventry City General Chat
  • Default Style
  • Contact us
  • Terms and rules
  • Privacy policy
  • Help
  • Home
Community platform by XenForo® © 2010-2021 XenForo Ltd.
Menu
Log in

Register

  • Home
  • Forums
    • New posts
    • Search forums
  • What's new
    • New posts
    • Latest activity
  • Members
    • Current visitors
  • Donate to the Season Ticket Fund
X

Privacy & Transparency

We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

  • Personalized ads and content
  • Content measurement and audience insights

Do you accept cookies and these technologies?

X

Privacy & Transparency

We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

  • Personalized ads and content
  • Content measurement and audience insights

Do you accept cookies and these technologies?