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Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC (5 Viewers)

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covcity4life

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  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,376
I always said the council were corrupt. I am always right! Fuck u council nuthuggers
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,377
Wonder if Richardson's pocket is going to see more from the Administration than that offer from the Council for bailout?
 

SHUNT31

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  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,378
Other councillors calling for resignations publicly.
 
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Grendel

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  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,379
@shmmeee


 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,380
fernandopartridge said:
The land around the arena remains "ripe for development" yet despite planning permission hasn't happened. It's almost as if the council's belief just ignores commercial reality
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They should have let the people build a hotel who got rejected planning permission.
 
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SHUNT31

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  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,381
Nick said:
The biggest worry is what the fuck they are up to now.
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My thoughts exactly.

Unless they plan to use Ashley to drive SISU out.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,382
SHUNT31 said:
Other councillors calling for resignations publicly.
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Ohhh where?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,383
Nick said:
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So Reeves is directly quoted saying this. Almost like he's part of Wasps.

"We would have gone to the Council".
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He's an officer and the cllrs are the council so he's technically correct. Looks like Gilbert's source was spot on
 

Nick

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  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,384
SHUNT31 said:
My thoughts exactly.

Unless they plan to use Ashley to drive SISU out.
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Pretty sure they tried that with plenty of other people previously.

Haskell and Wasps being 2.
 

SHUNT31

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  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,385
Nick said:
Ohhh where?
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Nick

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  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,386
fernandopartridge said:
He's an officer and the cllrs are the council so he's technically correct. Looks like Gilbert's source was spot on
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But @shmmeee said he knew for a fact that Gilbert made it up?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,387
clint van damme said:
I underestimated the councils conniving, won't make that mistake again.
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a) It appears to be Martin Reeves and b) that's a question put about Wasps innit, and not about ACL once put into administration. We knew there was potential pre-administration, we all wrote to our councillors to avert it!
 
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Nick

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  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,388
SHUNT31 said:
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For Reeves?

I am sure if he's broken any rules they will just change the rules for him again.
 

covcity4life

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  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,389
Grendel said:
@shmmeee


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He will reply and say "all I want is owners who buy us some players. If sisu do this I would be ok with it"
 

Nick

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  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,390
covcity4life said:
He will reply and say "all I want is owners who buy us some players. If sisu do this I would be ok with it"
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Or

"It doesn't matter if the council do this as SISU are building their own stadium"
 
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tisza

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  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,391
Nick said:

So what the fuck are they up to now if they were trying to pull that beforehand?

Whatever it is, it won't be to benefit the club that's for sure.
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As soon as I saw this I thought wtf were all these council -related statements 2/3 weeks ago about not getting involved. To be honest though it doesn't seem a great long-term deal in that the 60m was to basically pay-off and re-organize debt - basically Bond mk2.
The council leadership assured us (and told councillors) one of the main reasons Wasps got the Arena was that they were going to develop land around it.
Reeves really is a devious piece ofwork
 

Nick

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  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,392
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,393
Hate to repeat it ad nauseum but I've said for years that the senior officers at the council have driven this whole thing over years with Lucas and co useful idiots. Here it is spelt out. Fortunately it seems the current group of councillors have seen it for what it is.
 
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Nick

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  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,394
fernandopartridge said:
Hate to repeat it ad nauseum but I've said for years that the senior officers at the council have driven this whole thing over years with Lucas and co useful idiots. Here it is spelt out. Fortunately it seems the current group of councillors have seen it for what it is.
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How are they getting away with it though?

If Reeves has gone behind all their backs to try and push an offer of a bailout for Wasps surely that's not a good look?

It's also clear now that Reeves is heavily involved with the takeover process too. That's never a good thing, he should be nowhere fucking near any of it.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,395
Nick said:
How are they getting away with it though?

If Reeves has gone behind all their backs to try and push an offer of a bailout for Wasps surely that's not a good look?

It's also clear now that Reeves is heavily involved with the takeover process too.
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They're not going to come out overtly and say it are they? Wonder how the story got to the Times
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,396
Nick said:
If Reeves has gone behind all their backs to try and push an offer of a bailout for Wasps surely that's not a good look?
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tbh I honestly don't quite know the processes, but the Chief Exec's job would be to come up with ideas, and then propose them to councillors who have the option to accept or reject them. In itself it's probably not an issue, but probably becomes one if George Duggins has been denying any involvement, continues to deny any involvement (and he has been unequivocal on that, hasn't he) and then it comes to light in a high profile case that makes Duggins look like a clueless moron [space for obvious comment left here].
 
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Samo

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  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,397
This is like fucking Watergate!
 
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Nick

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  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,398
fernandopartridge said:
They're not going to come out overtly and say it are they? Wonder how the story got to the Times
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Even direct quotes are miles apart, Duggins and others have been saying publicly that categorically no but meanwhile Reeves is actually trying to push one and presented it to Richardson.

Reeves has also been a constant throughout the whole mess as well.

The direct quote from Reeves is interesting as well.
 

olderskyblue

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  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,399
Secret meetings are against the councils constitution…

now who was it said that?
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,400
Nick said:
But @shmmeee said he knew for a fact that Gilbert made it up?
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Ive been told by multiple people there was no meeting planned.
 
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Nick

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  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,401
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,402
Just another layer of lying, cheating wank flannels
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,403
Been in interviews all day, wondered why my mentions were blowing up (2 mentions is blowing up shut up).

Looks like Reeves went off reservation but Richardson voted it down, is that right?

So there was a plan, but it never made it to Labour group let alone council. Which explains why councillors don’t know about it.

As I said at the time, pumping money into Wasps is massively inappropriate. Reeves needs to answer questions, though his defence will be “I was just coming up with ideas that council would have to pass”. Shown a stunning lack of awareness to even propose it though.
 
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tisza

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  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,404
Deleted member 5849 said:
tbh I honestly don't quite know the processes, but the Chief Exec's job would be to come up with ideas, and then propose them to councillors who have the option to accept or reject them. In itself it's probably not an issue, but probably becomes one if George Duggins has been denying any involvement, continues to deny any involvement (and he has been unequivocal on that, hasn't he) and then it comes to light in a high profile case that makes Duggins look like a clueless moron [space for obvious comment left here].
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find it very difficult to believe that negotiations over any period of time would have remained hidden +/or been kept secret from senior councillors
 
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djr8369

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  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,405
Deleted member 5849 said:
tbh I honestly don't quite know the processes, but the Chief Exec's job would be to come up with ideas, and then propose them to councillors who have the option to accept or reject them. In itself it's probably not an issue, but probably becomes one if George Duggins has been denying any involvement, continues to deny any involvement (and he has been unequivocal on that, hasn't he) and then it comes to light in a high profile case that makes Duggins look like a clueless moron [space for obvious comment left here].
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It’s surely a problem if there is a conflict of interest as an unelected official is essentially steering the council, deciding what ideas are put to them, and controlling the narrative.
 

Nick

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  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,406
djr8369 said:
It’s surely a problem if there is a conflict of interest as an unelected official is essentially steering the council, deciding what ideas are put to them, and controlling the narrative.
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Also his personal conflict of interest in ACL etc.
 
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hill83

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  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,407
Nick said:
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Interesting.
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So Duggins knew there was going to be an article published by the times? So surely he knew the content?
 
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djr8369

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  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,408
Nick said:
Also his personal conflict of interest in ACL etc.
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Indeed. It is insane that somebody in such a position be involved in any local enterprise. Surely the whole idea is you are compensated to be a neutral advisor/manager type not to bend over backwards to give grants and development opportunities to a business you are involved with?
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,409
hill83 said:
So Duggins knew there was going to be an article published by the times? So surely he knew the content?
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He’ll have been asked for comment or even just given a heads up, I doubt they’ll have sent the article for approval.
 

hill83

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  • Nov 11, 2022
  • #11,410
shmmeee said:
He’ll have been asked for comment or even just given a heads up, I doubt they’ll have sent the article for approval.
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Makes sense.

But I'm going to assume the complete opposite anyway for now.
 
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