The Philosopher
Well-Known Member
Anyway, I’m enjoying Grendel’s increasingly bizarre posts.
If you're from a school of philosophy above that of Katie Price, I'm sure you can work out the point.Of course:
Name one club owner that wouldn’t?
It’s like saying who wouldn’t want a brand new car for a tenner?
The point?
The point being they’re not generally bothered about what league we’re in. They’ll put in minimal funding to ensure they don’t lose money.Of course:
Name one club owner that wouldn’t?
It’s like saying who wouldn’t want a brand new car for a tenner?
The point?
Why get angry?Fucking hell nobody said they want relegation. the championship is a step too far for them. The Costs involved give them headaches.
they don’t give a shit what league we’re in as long as the costs are down
they operate a model which is easier in league one/two - The championship requires a lot more investment - that they’re not willing to provide.
Clueless,
They’ve underwritten losses.
It’s like saying that using your credit card isn’t spending money.
We’d all like them to have spent more, but they haven’t.
Clueless.
3 offside goals as well wasn’t it. Beautiful.
They’re not going to do a Derby but by the same token I’m sure that if we are within touching distance they’ll throw in some incentives and support.The point being they’re not generally bothered about what league we’re in. They’ll put in minimal funding to ensure they don’t lose money.
PL money would be nice, but they’re not willing to put the investment to get there
I think you have a problem reading words and understanding them.Why get angry?
I’m sure we all know that SISU want to get promoted on minimal budget.
We saw in Champ return Season 1 that by Xmas whilst we were struggling SISU allowed the getting in of players like Matty James (not cheap) to steady the ship.
I’ve not and likely never will say that SISU are good owners but some of the things said implying that they’d rather be in L1 because the model works better is frankly bonkers.
Why get angry?
I’m sure we all know that SISU want to get promoted on minimal budget.
We saw in Champ return Season 1 that by Xmas whilst we were struggling SISU allowed the getting in of players like Matty James (not cheap) to steady the ship.
I’ve not and likely never will say that SISU are good owners but some of the things said implying that they’d rather be in L1 because the model works better is frankly bonkers.
The league is irrelevant?
They want PL money - anyone that thinks they don’t has no grasp of reality.
L1 is further away from the PL
I’ll say it again:
Clueless
If they didn't care why do we have a decent manager and why did they bring him back after he left? They have sacked a few poor managers in their time with us.they couldn’t give a fuck what League that we are in
You’re under the assumption they’re football fans. They look at CCFC as a business that’s losing x amount, since promotion that loss/expenditure has risen 10x.Why get angry?
I’m sure we all know that SISU want to get promoted on minimal budget.
We saw in Champ return Season 1 that by Xmas whilst we were struggling SISU allowed the getting in of players like Matty James (not cheap) to steady the ship.
I’ve not and likely never will say that SISU are good owners but some of the things said implying that they’d rather be in L1 because the model works better is frankly bonkers.
They had that chance last year and didn’tThey’re not going to do a Derby but by the same token I’m sure that if we are within touching distance they’ll throw in some incentives and support.
Throw money around like drunken sailors? They did that. Didn’t work. They can’t and probably won’t do so again
What ?The whole of the period from the promotion year to before the last set of accounts the losses have been funded by profit on player sales
The net investment is about £100 grand
Ofcourse they want PL money, but they want to fluke it, they don't actually want to support the manager to facilitate it.
If they did they'd have allowed Robins to have bought in more additions in January when we were in around the play offsbutclearly being hampered having a paper thin squad.
They kept the squad together.Ofcourse they want PL money, but they want to fluke it, they don't actually want to support the manager to facilitate it.
If they did they'd have allowed Robins to have bought in more additions in January when we were in around the play offsbutclearly being hampered having a paper thin squad.
tbf I'd have seen it as very irresponsible to gamble in that January. Building incrementally is fine. That being said, we then messed that up by reducing the level of squad in the close season, anyway!That was their time to gamble if ever there was one. When they didn’t it suggested to me they might be ready to move on if someone puts a sensible deal on the table (£Xm upfront plus upside on promotion and/or big player sales)
You literally just said “if we are within touching distance they’ll throw in some incentives and support.”They kept the squad together.
Maybe they had the attitude of “you’ve had £12k / week for Waghorn - what do you want now?”
I agree we’d all love a huge spending spree, but at what cost?
That was their time to gamble if ever there was one. When they didn’t it suggested to me they might be ready to move on if someone puts a sensible deal on the table (£Xm upfront plus upside on promotion and/or big player sales)
What ?
So you’ve picked a period of time - that they invested either by transfer or academy before that doesn’t count?
SISU have invested £100k
Utterly clueless
please don’t stop
tbf I'd have seen it as very irresponsible to gamble in that January. Building incrementally is fine. That being said, we then messed that up by reducing the level of squad in the close season, anyway!
Yes, I agree.You’re under the assumption they’re football fans. They look at CCFC as a business that’s losing x amount, since promotion that loss/expenditure has risen 10x.
it’s a numbers only thing. There is no ambition to run a football club.
As earlier on in the thread - if Sepalla gets offered what she’s put in, which is around 20m she’ll be gone. She was sold a pup by ranson. She never had any intention of becoming as involved as she is
Loans always a risk, especially wrt team spirit, and they can come with fat wages too. Plus we've seen with Matt Jansen and co how a loan can really lift a team(!)But we could have used the loan market as we did the previous January so not giving us any financial commitments beyond the end of the season.
They kept the squad together.
Maybe they had the attitude of “you’ve had £12k / week for Waghorn - what do you want now?”
I agree we’d all love a huge spending spree, but at what cost?
They kept the squad together.
Maybe they had the attitude of “you’ve had £12k / week for Waghorn - what do you want now?”
I agree we’d all love a huge spending spree, but at what cost?
Again - you’re assuming they’re football people. They are not.Yes, I agree.
Sold a pup, Ranson, didn’t want to run a club.
100% right.
As I’ve said, whatever they’ve put in (£20m, 30,40 whatever), because of the way they’ve funded / borrowed stands them at more, so it’ll be difficult to accept a low bid.
That they want us relegated?
No.
A club with a chance of PL promotion has a wider selection of buyers than one that is in the PL (too expensive) or L1 (too far to go to get serious reward)
Loans always a risk, especially wrt team spirit, and they can come with fat wages too. Plus we've seen with Matt Jansen and co how a loan can really lift a team(!)
Plus a loanee playing stops a member of our squad gaining some more experience and developing further. See, for example, Eccles, who'd have undoubtedly played more end of last season without injury issues.
*cough* Maguire-Drew, *cough* Josh Barrett*But the previous January we used the loan market to great affect.
If they really wanted to help Robins get to the EPL then surely they could have gone down that route again?
And in general, our loans have been fairly decent since Robins came back where as in the days of Jansen et al they were pretty much all shit!
Who could forget David Meyler lighting up our team!*cough* Maguire-Drew, *cough* Josh Barrett*
They aren’t football people, never said they were.Again - you’re assuming they’re football people. They are not.
and again - nobody has said they want a relegation - what they want is lower costs…if that means relegation -they ain’t bothered.
if they Do get relegated they’ll cut the costs and bubble along until they decide to close or an idiot takes a punt
*cough* Maguire-Drew, *cough* Josh Barrett*
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