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Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC (5 Viewers)

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The Philosopher

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  • Nov 5, 2022
  • #10,116
pusbccfc said:
I sort of agree.

I know people will look at Sunderland going for £40m and say we aren't worth as much but buying CCFC and the Ricoh for more than that is an exciting project. The Ricoh is the most unique stadium in the country with the complex attached. CCFC are also a club with huge potential, great location in the country, big city and catchment area.

Wouldn't take much to become a local hero here.
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Sunderland didn’t go for 40m. Someone apparently had that turned down.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Nov 5, 2022
  • #10,117
pusbccfc said:
Wouldn't take much to become a local hero here.
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Went to Newcastle to meet my brother at a mark Knopffler concert - banging tune (Newcastle play it at the start of every home game)

 
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Calista

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  • Nov 5, 2022
  • #10,118
steve cooper said:
MR has suddenly gone from saying there is no money for any new players in the January window, to saying 1, 2, or 3 new signings expected.
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Another interpretation of this might be that Sisu may inject a small amount of funds to CCFC, just to strengthen their hand by giving the impression they aren't in a weak position?
 
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slowpoke

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  • Nov 5, 2022
  • #10,119
Is this a one horse race though There are apparently other parties interested, is that for the arena only/ arena & club or just club.
We just need this sorting and soon
SISU have us in a transfer embargo again I don’t trust them to get that paid by January.
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 5, 2022
  • #10,120
Sky Blue Pete said:
Would you have preferred no ccfc?
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if she moved the club again frankly no one should support that and even comprehend entertaining her logic
 
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Grendel

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  • Nov 5, 2022
  • #10,121
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Ashley is worth about £4b
If he wants us, he will get us - think he would get bored making SISU squirm for years to save himself a few million. If he has a project/aspirations to do something with us, I'd have thought he'd want to get on with it, albeit he seems like he'd be a canny poker player (hidden aces up his sleeve etc)
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Not how Ashley thinks - he will pay bottom book price.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 5, 2022
  • #10,122
Grendel said:
Not how Ashley thinks - he will pay bottom book price.
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Isn’t it the case though that whether CCFC are in administration or not, the people he’s ultimately paying the money to are the same? Just with an administrator there’s extra fees to pay. So may as well start making offers sooner rather than later if it’s a project he has in mind
 

slowpoke

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  • Nov 5, 2022
  • #10,123
slowpoke said:
Mark Knopfler is one of the all time greats and Dire Straights instrumentally brilliant
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Grendel

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  • Nov 5, 2022
  • #10,124
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Isn’t it the case though that whether CCFC are in administration or not, the people he’s ultimately paying the money to are the same? Just with an administrator there’s extra fees to pay. So may as well start making offers sooner rather than later if it’s a project he has in mind
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Doubt administration will happen. We could sell players to stop that happening get relegated reduce the wage bill and reward investors accordingly
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 5, 2022
  • #10,125
Grendel said:
Doubt administration will happen. We could sell players to stop that happening get relegated reduce the wage bill and reward investors accordingly
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Or just reward investors now by selling up
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Nov 5, 2022
  • #10,126
Sky Blue Pete said:
It’s not
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Go on then. Who has said what?
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 5, 2022
  • #10,127
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Or just reward investors now by selling up
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Doubt they would raise as much they will just think differently
 

Evo1883

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  • Nov 5, 2022
  • #10,128
There is no doubt in my mind that Mike ashley will be the new owner of coventry city .. the only problem is how long we have to wait for that to happen with sisu
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 5, 2022
  • #10,129
Grendel said:
Doubt they would raise as much they will just think differently
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They’d probably get a similar outcome for a Championship squad with valuable players as they would for selling off said players then being relegated
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 5, 2022
  • #10,130
Brighton Sky Blue said:
They’d probably get a similar outcome for a Championship squad with valuable players as they would for selling off said players then being relegated
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no chance
 

Evo1883

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  • Nov 5, 2022
  • #10,131
Grendel said:
if she moved the club again frankly no one should support that and even comprehend entertaining her logic
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Especially knowing who is waiting in the wing to take over , there was nobody before , I wouldn't go
 
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SkyBlueSam01

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  • Nov 5, 2022
  • #10,132

True but where did that come from?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 5, 2022
  • #10,133
Grendel said:
no chance
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Well I think so, offer all 3 players out in January do we get more than £20 million for the lot?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 5, 2022
  • #10,134
Grendel said:
if she moved the club again frankly no one should support that and even comprehend entertaining her logic
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And nobody would
 

Hiraeth

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  • Nov 5, 2022
  • #10,135
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Went to Newcastle to meet my brother at a mark Knopffler concert - banging tune (Newcastle play it at the start of every home game)

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Is that chopper in the video a coincidence or just a coded way to announce that you are ITK?
 

Calista

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  • Nov 5, 2022
  • #10,136
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Went to Newcastle to meet my brother at a mark Knopffler concert - banging tune (Newcastle play it at the start of every home game)
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Not sure we need to know what your banging tune is SBHH
 
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The Philosopher

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  • Nov 5, 2022
  • #10,137
The argument that SISU is losing money:

Counter argument is that the squad at the start of this season is worth (say) £10m more than last and the £5m put in leaves £5m profit on the books (ie CCFC is worth more)

CBA to argue.

Bottom line is that those who think that Joy has to sell for a balloon and a goldfish need to have a word with themselves. Then a shrink.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Nov 5, 2022
  • #10,138
The Philosopher said:
The argument that SISU is losing money:

Counter argument is that the squad at the start of this season is worth (say) £10m more than last and the £5m put in leaves £5m profit on the books (ie CCFC is worth more)

CBA to argue.

Bottom line is that those who think that Joy has to sell for a balloon and a goldfish need to have a word with themselves. Then a shrink.
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Administration is the final outcome for us though , and she will lose all her investment
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 5, 2022
  • #10,139
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Well I think so, offer all 3 players out in January do we get more than £20 million for the lot?
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Irrelevant. Those fees can wipe deferred interest out capital loans still remain. Club gets £7 million tv next season. Can look to sell again following season get relegated readjust

We won’t get £20 million anyway
 

skybluepm2

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  • Nov 5, 2022
  • #10,140
Evo1883 said:
Administration is the final outcome for us though , and she will lose all her investment
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unless they manipulate the process like they did with Otium wouldn’t surprise me with that witch.
 

Evo1883

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  • Nov 5, 2022
  • #10,141
skybluepm2 said:
unless they manipulate the process like they did with Otium wouldn’t surprise me with that witch.
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Fair point but they would still lose the lot

They may aswell sit down and talk , negotiate a deal and a % of our current top player sales and fuxk right off
 
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Seaside-Skyblue

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  • Nov 5, 2022
  • #10,142
SHUNT31 said:
Fucking hell



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No but I'm sure he'll be trying to get a ticket for Wembley.

Sent from my SM-A908B using Tapatalk
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Nov 5, 2022
  • #10,143
Grendel said:
if she moved the club again frankly no one should support that and even comprehend entertaining her logic
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Was referring to the past and not the future
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 5, 2022
  • #10,144
Sky Blue Pete said:
Was referring to the past and not the future
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Well now the nonsense of a new ground are exposed as - well nonsense

Whatever misgivings there are about Ashley - plenty i am sure - I would think if this goes through they will have little support in the fan base to cling on much longer

Time to get an exit strategy together
 
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chiefdave

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  • Nov 5, 2022
  • #10,145
Sky Blue Pete said:
Would you have preferred no ccfc?
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Personally I'm hoping we never get to to a point where we have Sepalla saying we're moving again and the EFL saying you're out the league if you do. But that is a worry in the Ashley scenario, two people neither of whom are prepared to back down or that concerned about the collateral damage they cause.

I know a lot of people were concerned with the potential of the NEC taking over but I didn't really buy into the idea that they would concrete over the pitch & stick a roof on or raise the rent to ridiculous levels. I'm yet to be convinced that a relatively passive landlord who just lets us do are thing is worse than someone like Ashely trying to distress SISU into selling the club.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Nov 5, 2022
  • #10,146
Sky Blue Pete said:
Was referring to the past and not the future
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You can make an argument for the necessity of both previous moves, the game at Burton and even the potential of games at Walsall, you might not agree with it but that argument is there. Not sure you can make a solid argument for moving again because SISU haven't made any effort to purchase the stadium after a decade of trying to distress ACL to the point it was available for purchase.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Nov 5, 2022
  • #10,147
chiefdave said:
Personally I'm hoping we never get to to a point where we have Sepalla saying we're moving again and the EFL saying you're out the league if you do. But that is a worry in the Ashley scenario, two people neither of whom are prepared to back down or that concerned about the collateral damage they cause.

I know a lot of people were concerned with the potential of the NEC taking over but I didn't really buy into the idea that they would concrete over the pitch & stick a roof on or raise the rent to ridiculous levels. I'm yet to be convinced that a relatively passive landlord who just lets us do are thing is worse than someone like Ashely trying to distress SISU into selling the club.
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How can he distress them?
 

shepardo01

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  • Nov 5, 2022
  • #10,148
shmmeee said:
How can he distress them?
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He can put the rent up can't he.. internally, the club are already concerned with this....
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 5, 2022
  • #10,149
shepardo01 said:
He can put the rent up can't he.. internally, the club are already concerned with this....
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Dont think so. We have eight years left.
 

Kneeza

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  • Nov 5, 2022
  • #10,150
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Went to Newcastle to meet my brother at a mark Knopffler concert - banging tune (Newcastle play it at the start of every home game)

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Ha. I actually played that last night, and Coming Home by Delaney & Bonnie. Both superb tunes.
 
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