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Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC (2 Viewers)

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Evo1883

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  • Nov 1, 2022
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Mind you Richard keys has never truly got anything right about ccfc has he
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Nov 1, 2022
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hutch1972 said:
They haven't got the wonga
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This is just untrue. They are fabulously wealthy and Joy herself was reported to be the richest owner in the Championship.

They simply don't want to put the money in, that isn't their model.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 1, 2022
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Saddlebrains said:
My thoughts exactly

I cant fathom how a man such as Ashley isnt interested
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Unless he is and yet again SISU have demanded stupid money to leave
 
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TomRad85

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  • Nov 1, 2022
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No way Ashley picks up the CBS and just leaves ccfc. Although my twisted mind has dreamt up the most Cov scenario ever in which he uses the rent we pay him to help purchase the takeover of another club.

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Nick

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  • Nov 1, 2022
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Telfer85 said:
I imagine his tactic will be to distress Sisu until he gets us on the cheap. If he’s doing it through a pre packed admin would that mean all our agreements are void? Give us worse terms? charge us more rent? Gonna get worse before it gets better possibly.
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A few people have said worse before better.

Does that mean the club getting distressed or forced into admin?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 1, 2022
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Evo1883 said:
Mind you Richard keys has never truly got anything right about ccfc has he
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You'd be better off asking Donald Trump for an accurate representation of CCFC's soap opera.
 

RegTheDonk

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #8,232
Telfer85 said:
I imagine his tactic will be to distress Sisu until he gets us on the cheap. If he’s doing it through a pre packed admin would that mean all our agreements are void? Give us worse terms? charge us more rent? Gonna get worse before it gets better possibly.
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I dunno how that would work but if it doesn't go to admin, haven't we got about 8/9 years left on our lease? Does that get ripped up?

Edit: sorry you're asking the same question!
 

Blind-Faith

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  • Nov 1, 2022
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Beginning to live in a bit of a dreamland , MA gets the ground, buys the club off SISU and we go absolutely mental in the Jan transfer window, sneak the playoffs and get promoted at Wembley again! Come on big Mike! Get that cheque book out
 
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Liquid Gold said:
and Joy herself was reported to be the richest owner in the Championship.
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That was a pretty nonsensical list with little basis in reality however.
 
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Telfer85

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  • Nov 1, 2022
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Nick said:
A few people have said worse before better.

Does that mean the club getting distressed or forced into admin?
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That’s the question we are clearly struggling for cash as well hence the HMRC agreement. How long could they last??
 

torchomatic

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  • Nov 1, 2022
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Liquid Gold said:
Two days in a row someone has put an annoying song right into my head.
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Hope I get my ride on time, r-r-r-ide on time for the game tonight.
 
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Nick

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  • Nov 1, 2022
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Telfer85 said:
That’s the question we are clearly struggling for cash as well hence the HMRC agreement. How long could they last??
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Was it overson who said worse before better?
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Nov 1, 2022
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A well known previous owner of a football club who likes owning football clubs is buying a football stadium where the owners of a football club are ready to sell the football club but he doesn't want the football club?

Football club.
 
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Nick

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  • Nov 1, 2022
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Liquid Gold said:
A well known previous owner of a football club who likes owning football clubs is buying a football stadium where the owners of a football club are ready to sell the football club but he doesn't want the football club?

Football club.
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They haven't said they are ready to sell though.

A scenario could be forced?
 

samccov1987

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  • Nov 1, 2022
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Can’t believe Ashley would buy the stadium and not want the club.

Ashley vs Joy sounds a right cluster fuck.

But equally how long can Sisu hold us for sooner or later they will let go and Ashley unlike Wasps has the reddies.
 
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PVA

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  • Nov 1, 2022
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Usually the total opposite of everything Keys says is what actually happens.

He's wrong about literally everything.

And a c**t.
 
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Senior Vick from Alicante

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  • Nov 1, 2022
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Nick said:
Who could have told keys that?
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His daughters best mate?
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #8,243
Used to work with this lad, proper Toon fan

Didnt think of it this way. .....

 
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robbiethemole

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #8,244
SkyBlueSam01 said:
I was in a sauna on Sunday and a stranger randomly asked me why I thought people aren't allowed to go to Antarctica. He reckoned it's either an Area 51 scenario or the earth is flat, although denied being a flat earther.

I left shortly afterwards.

Was it you @robbiethemole ?
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not unless it was in Enderby, plus I don't remember talking to anyone on Sunday, not even Mrs mole hahahha
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Nov 1, 2022
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Nick said:
They haven't said they are ready to sell though.

A scenario could be forced?
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They've been growing us for years only to pull the plug this year?

They've always covered our shortfalls with loans but now we had to sell Hyam to pay for a pitch?

They're one foot out the door if there is a credible bid I'm certain of it.

This is top of the cycle and they know it.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 1, 2022
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PVA said:
Usually the total opposite of everything Keys says is what actually happens.

He's wrong about literally everything.

And a c**t.
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Well let's hope he's right about preferred bidder and wrong about not wanting the club.
 

Nick

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  • Nov 1, 2022
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Saddlebrains said:
Used to work with this lad, proper Toon fan

Didnt think of it this way. .....

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That's where my mind is wandering.

Council like sisu getting fucked too...

It would just been ccfc were the victims, again.
 

TomRad85

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #8,248
Saddlebrains said:
Used to work with this lad, proper Toon fan

Didnt think of it this way. .....

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You're not sounding quite as upbeat tonight mate
 

Senior Vick from Alicante

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #8,249
Telfer85 said:
That’s the question we are clearly struggling for cash as well hence the HMRC agreement. How long could they last??
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Dont think we are, the model is to live within your means so all they have done is reschedule payments. They have put money in when they have needed too, thats the problem unless you gamble on a large investment in the squad which they dont your stuck.
 

Calista

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #8,250
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Unless he is and yet again SISU have demanded stupid money to leave
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Once the Arena liabilities are cleared, it's an attractive buy. The only debt mountain left is the one that CCFC owe to Sisu, making purchase of the club much tougher.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Nov 1, 2022
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Saddlebrains said:
Used to work with this lad, proper Toon fan

Didnt think of it this way. .....

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Then he has no idea who he's dealing with. Sisu will move us over selling for nothing. Then he'd be left with a stadium with no tenants instead of 2.

He will have done his due diligence on the position of the football club owners. It won't happen. This is just Toon speculation based on knowing nothing about us or sisu.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Nov 1, 2022
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Deleted member 5849 said:
That was a pretty nonsensical list with little basis in reality however.
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Agreed, but the point that sisu and Joy don't have the money still stands.
 

Esoterica

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #8,253
Nick said:
This is the other thing, CCFC are ploughing extra money in for matchdays which is presumably keeping it out of admin while they do a deal with others?

That doesn't make much sense.
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Unless the suggested EFL fine and points deduction was worth more than the gap they're plugging for matchdays?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 1, 2022
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Liquid Gold said:
Agreed, but the point that sisu and Joy don't have the money still stands.
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Does it? We don't actually know either way.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 1, 2022
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Calista said:
Once the Arena liabilities are cleared, it's an attractive buy. The only debt mountain left is the one that CCFC owe to Sisu, making purchase of the club much tougher.
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They will have to wait until Joy dies and then a bit longer if they ever want to get close to their money back with the current 'strategy'. In fact they'll probably just end up having to sub the club even more money.

Go to Ashley and negotiate
 
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JAM See

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  • Nov 1, 2022
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Saddlebrains said:
Used to work with this lad, proper Toon fan

Didnt think of it this way. .....

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You're not THAT John Hall are you?
 
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Nick

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  • Nov 1, 2022
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Esoterica said:
Unless the suggested EFL fine and points deduction was worth more than the gap they're plugging for matchdays?
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That's if they have actually threatened one.

I can't see the EFL saying you have to pay over the odds to keep the stadium company going.
 

Evo1883

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  • Nov 1, 2022
  • #8,258
Nick said:
They haven't said they are ready to sell though.

A scenario could be forced?
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Doub't the EFL would let us move again , so sisu could well be forced out?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 1, 2022
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Ashley doesn't need to do both deals at once, why would he mix them up when they are two entirely separate entities? To a certain extent he's got a burning platform in relation to ACL, get that deal done first and maybe he'll have a look at CCFC.
 
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Nick

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Evo1883 said:
Doub't the EFL would let us move again , so sisu could well be forced out?
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I'm not sure the EFL would have much choice if it was proven Ashley was trying to distress the club.

Although is a very hypothetical conversation
 
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