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clint van damme

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  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #526
Skyblueweeman said:
Oh and the only think that would be great about a return would the opportunity to celebrate every loss the parasites get.
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Definitely getting Stone Islanded up for the BPA game v Cov
 
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chiefdave

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  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #527
If they want to expand the second tier surely you just promote for teams from the tier below. You know, the ones who have paid their bills and not gone out of business.

The RFU make the FA and EFL look competent which takes some doing. The idea that you can add Wasps, Worcester and London Irish to a 12 team second tier and end up with 14 teams doesn't seem great maths for a start.

But you're talking about three teams that at present don't exist in any meaningful form and two of which don't have any ground to play at, its laughable to me but if I was a rugby fan I'd be fuming. Do this and the game has zero integrity.
 
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Paul Anthony

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  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #528
So much for having to start again at the lowest level, eh?
 
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tisza

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  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #529
Skyblueweeman said:

Wasps, Worcester & London Irish returns would be 'great for rugby'

The boss of Premiership Rugby says he welcomes the prospective return to professional rugby of Wasps, Worcester and London Irish.
www.bbc.co.uk

This is incredible - likely going to be allowed back into the 2nd tier next season...once they've fully paid off existing rugby creditors.

How much do Wasps owe non-rugby creditors - local Coventry businesses etc? Wasn't the local ambulance service owed some money by them? What about paying those off as well?

It's a f*&king joke.
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They're desperate and clueless. Most the Premier clubs are basically bankrupt and propped up by owner's loans. Unsustainable wage structures. There are no sleeping giants out there with large potential fanbases or commercial appeal. Rugby's leadership is deluded in that they think they have some product that large numbers of people will want to watch. They are scraping around to find enough professional clubs as they know the next TV deal will be much lower than the current one if they can't boost numbers of games etc.
 
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MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #530
RFU lost £5m last year and have laid off 40 staff. BT Sports didn't want the Champions and Challenge Cup matches, so they've gone to Premier Sports.

However, ITV are seemingly forking out a fortune for their coverage...

Premiership Rugby has agreed a two-year extension with ITV for a selection of free-to-air matches and a new highlights show.

The new deal will see ITV broadcast seven live games including the Premiership final in the 2024-25 season.

A rebranded highlights show called Gallagher Premiership Unleashed will be shown every Wednesday night.

In a major reshuffle, it will be presented by social media personalities instead of former players Topsy Ojo and David Flatman as it was last season.

Three YouTubers who go by the names of Ruckstar Lizzie, Squidge and Rugby Nause will take over hosting.
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Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon

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  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #531
Watch the rules on promotion/relegation change to get them back in the top flight as fast as possible next
 
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chiefdave

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  • Oct 10, 2024
  • #532
MusicDating said:
However, ITV are seemingly forking out a fortune for their coverage...
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Wonder how much they are paying. Did see a report a year or two ago that they had to roll contacts over for additional years on the same terms as there was zero interest. Can't imagine ITV have gone in high for rights they know nobody else is bidding for. Not sure 7 live games a season is quite the 'we can be like the Premier League' level of coverage they want.
In a major reshuffle, it will be presented by social media personalities instead of former players Topsy Ojo and David Flatman as it was last season.

Three YouTubers who go by the names of Ruckstar Lizzie, Squidge and Rugby Nause will take over hosting.
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Is it April 1st? That sounds like absolute shit for any sport but do they really think the rugby audience is one that will go for this?
 
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tisza

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  • Oct 11, 2024
  • #533
It's all screwed. Scrambling around looking for anything that might possibly boost Tv revenues Inc league amalgamations, new leagues etc.
They've screwed themselves by overpaying players and can't reduce wage cap any further without risking exodus of top players to bigger money leagues.
 

MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • Oct 11, 2024
  • #534
Canal+ pay £116m a year to cover French rugby
Over here, BT paid £36m a year and are rumoured to have paid less to extend the deal
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 11, 2024
  • #535
MusicDating said:
Canal+ pay £116m a year to cover French rugby
Over here, BT paid £36m a year and are rumoured to have paid less to extend the deal
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Remember doing some digging when Wasps were up here telling anyone who would listen that rugby was going to be as popular as Premier League football and the viewing figures are absolutely appalling. That was in our League 1 days and one of our games on Sky got more viewers than they got for the the season on BT!
 
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oldfiver

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  • Oct 11, 2024
  • #536

Wasps, Worcester & London Irish returns would be 'great for rugby'

The boss of Premiership Rugby says he welcomes the prospective return to professional rugby of Wasps, Worcester and London Irish.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
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oldfiver

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  • Oct 11, 2024
  • #537

RFU confirm deadline for additional teams to apply for new Tier 2

Additional clubs wanting to take part in the new 14-team Tier 2 league in 2025/26 have been set an October 13 deadline to apply.
www.rugbypass.com
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 11, 2024
  • #538
oldfiver said:

RFU confirm deadline for additional teams to apply for new Tier 2

Additional clubs wanting to take part in the new 14-team Tier 2 league in 2025/26 have been set an October 13 deadline to apply.
www.rugbypass.com
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what happens if the current 2nd tier teams stick together and tell the RFU to do one. They can't have a tier 2 with just 3 teams they are trying to parachute in.

or is this like when we get to 'choose' things like if we want PL u21s to play in the EFL Trophy, you get a vote but if you vote no they're cutting off the supply of money?
 

ccfctommy

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  • Oct 11, 2024
  • #539
Why did people assume that the 'new' Wasps would start at the bottom of the pyramid? Technically it doesn't even happen in football.
 

Skyblueweeman

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  • Oct 11, 2024
  • #540
chiefdave said:
what happens if the current 2nd tier teams stick together and tell the RFU to do one. They can't have a tier 2 with just 3 teams they are trying to parachute in.

or is this like when we get to 'choose' things like if we want PL u21s to play in the EFL Trophy, you get a vote but if you vote no they're cutting off the supply of money?
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You've answered your own question mate. They'll simply reduce funding to Tier 2 clubs even further. It used to be around £600k a season I think now it's only about a 1/3 of that. Figures not totally accurate but around that.
 
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Skyblueweeman

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  • Oct 11, 2024
  • #541
ccfctommy said:
Why did people assume that the 'new' Wasps would start at the bottom of the pyramid? Technically it doesn't even happen in football.
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AFC Wimbledon started at the bottom of the pyramid when they restarted.
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 11, 2024
  • #542
ccfctommy said:
Why did people assume that the 'new' Wasps would start at the bottom of the pyramid? Technically it doesn't even happen in football.
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Because they were liquidated and other rugby union clubs liquidated have started at the bottom
 
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chiefdave

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  • Oct 11, 2024
  • #543
ccfctommy said:
Why did people assume that the 'new' Wasps would start at the bottom of the pyramid? Technically it doesn't even happen in football.
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Can't think of any football clubs who went bust, missed a couple of seasons, and then got dropped straight into the Championship.
 
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ccfctommy

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  • Oct 11, 2024
  • #544
Skyblueweeman said:
AFC Wimbledon started at the bottom of the pyramid when they restarted.
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Theres no 'bottom of the pyramid' as such. You get accepted into whatever league accepts you. See Nuneaton Town.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Oct 11, 2024
  • #545
As much as i detest the parasites, let’s not pretend within Rugby their name is massive. Rugby is suffering for funding as it is.

The Wasps name would infinitely be more appealing than most
 

tisza

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 11, 2024
  • #546
chiefdave said:
Remember doing some digging when Wasps were up here telling anyone who would listen that rugby was going to be as popular as Premier League football and the viewing figures are absolutely appalling. That was in our League 1 days and one of our games on Sky got more viewers than they got for the the season on BT!
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Even the "free" ITV games only get around 1m views. None of the clubs sell-out their grounds. Premier rugby were crowing that average attendances were the best ever last year at around 15,300 - what they didn't mention was it took an extra Quins game at Twickenham and Saracens game at Spurs to alter those figures quite radically. Those 2 games boosted total attendance by an extra 120.000 odd (added about 1500 onto the average)
 
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oldfiver

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  • Oct 11, 2024
  • #547
Skyblueweeman said:
You've answered your own question mate. They'll simply reduce funding to Tier 2 clubs even further. It used to be around £600k a season I think now it's only about a 1/3 of that. Figures not totally accurate but around that.
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Cov get £133k but pay £50k for insurance from that

Premiership Clubs get £3.3m top line
 
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Kneeza

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  • Oct 14, 2024
  • #548
oldfiver said:
Cov get £133k but pay £50k for insurance from that

Premiership Clubs get £3.3m top line
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Correct.
It's a (bad) joke.
If promoted, they'd get roughly half of the amount the current sides get - and the relegated side would get similar, ensuring that the two swap leagues at the end of that season.
Utter bollocks of a game (and that's coming from someone who's followed it for well over sixty years).
 
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MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • Oct 21, 2024
  • #549
RFU warned schools crisis risks rugby becoming a ‘declining minority sport’

They can't make the concerns about concussion and injury go away either. At an extreme level, football could ban heading but rugby would have to become non-contact.
 

duffer

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  • Oct 22, 2024
  • #550
ccfctommy said:
Why did people assume that the 'new' Wasps would start at the bottom of the pyramid? Technically it doesn't even happen in football.
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Because that was the RFU's own rules... See London Scottish (now back in the Championship).
 

duffer

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  • Oct 22, 2024
  • #551
ccfctommy said:
Theres no 'bottom of the pyramid' as such. You get accepted into whatever league accepts you. See Nuneaton Town.
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You don't get accepted into the football league, do you, let alone the second tier, just on the basis of your name.
 
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Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon

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  • Nov 13, 2024
  • #552

Wasps: Former Premiership club secure land to build new stadium in Kent

Former Premiership club Wasps move a step closer to a return to professional rugby by securing land to build a new stadium in Kent.
www.bbc.co.uk

New stadium in Kent appears to be what they are going for now, along with entry to the Championship for 25/26. I would presume to do the 2ndnpart of that they'd need to be using Worcester's ground or have some other ground share set up in a random part of the country. Cumbria Wasps anyone?
 

chiefdave

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  • Nov 13, 2024
  • #553
Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon said:

Wasps: Former Premiership club secure land to build new stadium in Kent

Former Premiership club Wasps move a step closer to a return to professional rugby by securing land to build a new stadium in Kent.
www.bbc.co.uk

New stadium in Kent appears to be what they are going for now, along with entry to the Championship for 25/26. I would presume to do the 2ndnpart of that they'd need to be using Worcester's ground or have some other ground share set up in a random part of the country. Cumbria Wasps anyone?
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Hmmm, this is about as near to building a stadium as when we were moving to the Uni.
10-year option on land as part of a wider development scheme in Swanley, Kent.
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will be reliant on the wider development going ahead and them somehow finding the money to finance a stadium and get it through planning when there's already huge opposition from the locals.

I really can't see the sense in setting up in Worcester and getting semi-established there to then move across the country again to somewhere you're not wanted into a huge new stadium they won't be able to afford to run.

Did they not notice how that turned out for them last time?
 
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Skyblueweeman

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  • Nov 13, 2024
  • #554
They need to pay their f&*king debts first before spending a penny on coming back.

Parasites.
 
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SkyBlueCharlie9

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  • Nov 13, 2024
  • #555
This 'site' is Pedham Place Golf Club near Brands Hatch and just outside Swanley in Sevenoaks DC patch. Decent little affordable golf course that is good for beginners and children learning the game. Ive played there a lot in recent years with my teenage son. I know a couple of people at Sevenoaks District Council who say this land has been put forward under local plan site allocations, by owners for housing and potentially a new town but potentially space for The Pests to piggy back and include a stadium on fringes too. Well accessed by M25 A20 but in green belt country on top of a very exposed prominent hill, with big planning and master planning issues. Already massive local objection and likely to be challenged with a Judicial Review. Its more like 5-10 years delivery minimum in my eyes. Cost would be at least £100m for a basic 28K stadium. Hopefully wont happen but then the egg chasing rugger buggers do have wealth and connections that do like to through money at ridiculous white elephants - so wouldn't put it past them. I keep meaning to contact the residents action group to draw attention to what the W***s did in Coventry and Henley In Arden. W***s must never be allowed to rebreed and infest any community/place ever again!
 
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SkyBlueCharlie9

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  • Nov 13, 2024
  • #556
Rather than Worcester wonder if W***s will look at temporary ground share with Bromley, Charlton, Milwall, Gillingham, , Dartford, Ebbsfleet, Welling or Maidstone... until they build their stadium
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Nov 13, 2024
  • #557
@KenilworthSkyBlue why dont you go and watch them in Kent?

What was it you said when they were here? 'I just want to watch top class premiership rugby'.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 13, 2024
  • #558
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
@KenilworthSkyBlue why dont you go and watch them in Kent?

What was it you said when they were here? 'I just want to watch top class premiership rugby'.
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Is this true? What was his username at that point?
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Nov 13, 2024
  • #559
fernandopartridge said:
Is this true? What was his username at that point?
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Unfortunately I don't have a spreadsheet, but I know for a fact he was 100% a Wasps apologist and follower. As we know though, most of them don't admit it these days.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Nov 13, 2024
  • #560
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Unfortunately I don't have a spreadsheet,
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I know a man who does.....
 
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