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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jun 15, 2022
  • #4,446
Dubai-Dodger said:
Out of interest where do you watch your other rugby ?
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Out of interest how much are you being paid an hour to post on here?
 
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oldfiver

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  • Jun 15, 2022
  • #4,447

ADVFN

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Gilbert!
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Jun 15, 2022
  • #4,448
Lego finally getting out of his box.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 15, 2022
  • #4,449
oldfiver said:

ADVFN

uk.advfn.com
Gilbert!
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Pleased that this forum pointed him in the right direction.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jun 15, 2022
  • #4,450
'The Simon Gilbert'
What a fucking pellet.
 
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FulltimeWum

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  • Jun 15, 2022
  • #4,451
New development?
 

Gynnsthetonic

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  • Jun 15, 2022
  • #4,452
FulltimeWum said:
New development?
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Tomorrow?
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Jun 15, 2022
  • #4,453
FulltimeWum said:
New development?
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Probably another special project like the £5 million porch or whatever it cost.
 

chiefdave

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  • Jun 15, 2022
  • #4,454
Terry Gibson's perm said:
Probably another special project like the £5 million porch or whatever it cost.
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I would suggest if there's a new development in this saga and its positive news there would be no need to speak to bondholders. For example if the news tomorrow is they're getting paid its not really worth getting anyone on, if the news is there's a major problem then you'll get some mileage out of bondholders.

Although history suggests anything being hyped up as a new development is likely to be nothing.
 

FulltimeWum

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  • Jun 15, 2022
  • #4,455
chiefdave said:
I would suggest if there's a new development in this saga and its positive news there would be no need to speak to bondholders. For example if the news tomorrow is they're getting paid its not really worth getting anyone on, if the news is there's a major problem then you'll get some mileage out of bondholders.

Although history suggests anything being hyped up as a new development is likely to be nothing.
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Five celebrities you didn't know were Wasps fans.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jun 15, 2022
  • #4,456
chiefdave said:
I would suggest if there's a new development in this saga and its positive news there would be no need to speak to bondholders. For example if the news tomorrow is they're getting paid its not really worth getting anyone on, if the news is there's a major problem then you'll get some mileage out of bondholders.

Although history suggests anything being hyped up as a new development is likely to be nothing.
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There's been some dissent which they've tried to brush under the carpet, so logic says the next move will probably be the propaganda machine spinning up. It wouldn't surprise me at all if there is some 'positive' Wasps themed story being crafted as we speak.
 

clint van damme

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  • Jun 15, 2022
  • #4,457
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
There's been some dissent which they've tried to brush under the carpet, so logic says the next move will probably be the propaganda machine spinning up. It wouldn't surprise me at all if there is some 'positive' Wasps themed story being crafted as we speak.
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'Experts have hilighted the benefits of sitting ina near empty stadium, you won't believe what it does for your life expectancy'
 
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jordan210

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  • Jun 15, 2022
  • #4,458
Is the new development Gilbert has a new book out.

Franchise rugby for dummies foreword's by Bobby Bridge.

 
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Travs

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  • Jun 15, 2022
  • #4,459
I for one welcome the input of our new Wasps friend.

I dislike the club and will be as pleased as anyone else on here if/when they fail... but a bit of insight (however much we may disagree with their points) is welcome.... otherwise its just us gloating every time they lose or have a poor attendance.

Some of the hostility towards him is pretty uncalled for.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Jun 15, 2022
  • #4,460
Travs said:
I for one welcome the input of our new Wasps friend.

I dislike the club and will be as pleased as anyone else on here if/when they fail... but a bit of insight (however much we may disagree with their points) is welcome.... otherwise its just us gloating every time they lose or have a poor attendance.

Some of the hostility towards him is pretty uncalled for.
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It’s not really insight though. Just like the rest of their lot that have tried signing up they don’t have a simple grasp of the basics.
 
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Philosoraptor

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  • Jun 15, 2022
  • #4,461
Travs said:
I for one welcome the input of our new Wasps friend.

I dislike the club and will be as pleased as anyone else on here if/when they fail... but a bit of insight (however much we may disagree with their points) is welcome.... otherwise its just us gloating every time they lose or have a poor attendance.

Some of the hostility towards him is pretty uncalled for.
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Seems like a PR person to me. Totally toeing the line. Maybe I am wrong, Maybe I am not. Won't be the first time we have had one on here.
 
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Philosoraptor

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  • Jun 15, 2022
  • #4,462
By definition, PR people do turn up when public opinion needs to be swayed in a certain direction, and it looks like this could be one of those times.
 
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Philosoraptor

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  • Jun 15, 2022
  • #4,463
I have always classed Gilbert as a quality Journalist. He won't get two bondholders on with counter views and quote them both. He will look out of the window and see what's going on. .
 
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oldfiver

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  • Jun 15, 2022
  • #4,464
Philosorapter said:
I have always classed Gilbert as a quality Journalist. He won't get two bondholders on with counter views and quote them both. He will look out of the window and see what's going on. .
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Counter views on what though?
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Jun 15, 2022
  • #4,465
oldfiver said:
Counter views on what though?
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The new development, whatever that is.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 15, 2022
  • #4,466
There is a new development and if you read between the lines on Wasps told bondholders about having to source the bond from many sources it might click
 

chiefdave

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  • Jun 15, 2022
  • #4,467
From a bondholder perspective surely the news is either you're getting your money or you're not. Would you really care where they were having to borrow it from or how many sources there are?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 15, 2022
  • #4,468
chiefdave said:
From a bondholder perspective surely the news is either you're getting your money or you're not. Would you really care where they were having to borrow it from or how many sources there are?
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You might not but a few million others might be a bit more concerned
 

chiefdave

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  • Jun 15, 2022
  • #4,469
fernandopartridge said:
You might not but a few million others might be a bit more concerned
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Have they got a loan off Putin or something
 
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Dubai-Dodger

Member
  • Jun 16, 2022
  • #4,470
Philosorapter said:
Seems like a PR person to me. Totally toeing the line. Maybe I am wrong, Maybe I am not. Won't be the first time we have had one on here.
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Im certainly not anything in PR (wish I was) ….Just a bloke in his 60’s with too much time on his hands at the moment.

Interesting to see what comes out of the BBC today. … let’s see !
 
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Travs

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  • Jun 16, 2022
  • #4,471
Liquid Gold said:
It’s not really insight though. Just like the rest of their lot that have tried signing up they don’t have a simple grasp of the basics.
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Its not the "insight" we want to hear, but i suspect its probably the views of the majority of "dedicated" Wasps fans round here.

And as much as it pains me to say it, he's dead right about the vast majority of Cov/Warks public not giving a toss about it.... clearly i think its an absolute scandal that they moved here, as do the vast majority of City fans... But a heavy majority of the Cov population don't give much of a toss about CCFC let alone the detailed issues behind it, and couldn't care a jot about franchising or "sporting integrity".

There's a lot of us who are dead against it but i'm afraid we are a significant minority, rather than the "vast majority of Cov public".

Incidentally, i notice on social media, a lot of people who were happy to broadcast to all that they were going along to Wasps when things were going well, are the same people who are turning up to the Ricoh now that we are "good", with PUSB sprayed all over their social media pages.... also common is that most of them claim to be Liverpool/Manchester United fans ...........
 

Flying Fokker

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  • Jun 16, 2022
  • #4,472
Travs said:
Its not the "insight" we want to hear, but i suspect its probably the views of the majority of "dedicated" Wasps fans round here.

And as much as it pains me to say it, he's dead right about the vast majority of Cov/Warks public not giving a toss about it.... clearly i think its an absolute scandal that they moved here, as do the vast majority of City fans... But a heavy majority of the Cov population don't give much of a toss about CCFC let alone the detailed issues behind it, and couldn't care a jot about franchising or "sporting integrity".

There's a lot of us who are dead against it but i'm afraid we are a significant minority, rather than the "vast majority of Cov public".

Incidentally, i notice on social media, a lot of people who were happy to broadcast to all that they were going along to Wasps when things were going well, are the same people who are turning up to the Ricoh now that we are "good", with PUSB sprayed all over their social media pages.... also common is that most of them claim to be Liverpool/Manchester United fans ...........
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Your analysis is equally skewed.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 16, 2022
  • #4,473
The facts are in Coventry (population 370k)

A proportion of the population actively it dislike them (say 10%)
A bigger proportion do not care
A smaller proportion actively support (<2%)
That's 98% of the general population that either dislike or don't care about Wasps

I'm just leaving this here as context for what's to come
 
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chiefdave

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  • Jun 16, 2022
  • #4,474
fernandopartridge said:
A proportion of the population actively it dislike them (say 10%)
A bigger proportion do not care
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You only have to look at the response in the city to any success we have compared to any success they have.

I had to google to find out but since they've been here they've reached the play off final twice and it hasn't registered at all with the vast majority of people in the city. Compare that the out Wembley appearances or league win.

Tells you everything you need to know.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 16, 2022
  • #4,475
Was it £10m of the initial bond used to repay Richardson?
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 16, 2022
  • #4,476
fernandopartridge said:
Was it £10m of the initial bond used to repay Richardson?
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Yes I think so
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Jun 16, 2022
  • #4,477
fernandopartridge said:
Was it £10m of the initial bond used to repay Richardson?
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Yeah, he used a bunch to pay himself back and then a bunch for the first few sets of interest payments.

The losses have also been offset by league shares and catering being sold.

I can see why they are struggling to refinance.
 
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Dubai-Dodger

Member
  • Jun 16, 2022
  • #4,478
fernandopartridge said:
The facts are in Coventry (population 370k)

A proportion of the population actively it dislike them (say 10%)
A bigger proportion do not care
A smaller proportion actively support (<2%)
That's 98% of the general population that either dislike or don't care about Wasps

I'm just leaving this here as context for what's to come
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You are probably spot on, reality being we'll never get closer than an educated guess.

But that's pretty much what I've said all along and been shot down for it +/- 90% don't care. Rather than some on here who feel 90% of the population despise Wasps, just not true.

Are those figures a shock to anyone ? Football is and always will be far more popular than rugby, I don't think anyone has ever disputed that.

If you are saying there are 7400 active supporters from Coventry alone, plus some from the wider area, plus existing long term supporters, plus neutrals, plus fair weather supporters when they play well. That's actually not a bad number !
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 16, 2022
  • #4,479
Sky Blue Pete said:
Anything out yet
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I’m sure something will be soon
 

Nick

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  • Jun 16, 2022
  • #4,480
Dubai-Dodger said:
Are those figures a shock to anyone ? Football is and always will be far more popular than rugby, I don't think anyone has ever disputed that.
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Musn't have been around a couple of years ago.
 
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