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Grendel

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  • Jun 12, 2022
  • #4,271
Dubai-Dodger said:
Agree there are clubs on rocky ground financially but really don’t think the game will disappear. It’s not the first time Wasps have been in the 2nd tier of Europe, it wil probably do some good for a season. It’s not the disaster that you guys talk it as.
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Everything is built on sand - the much heralded on here JLR sponsorship deal was cheaper to JLR than any of the football club deals. It was hilarious.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Jun 12, 2022
  • #4,272
Grendel said:
Everything is built on sand - the much heralded on here JLR sponsorship deal was cheaper to JLR than any of the football club deals. It was hilarious.
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Said it before but rugby fans would be well served looking at CVCs role in other sports and the state they've been left in. They've come in, taken what they can, and then walked away.

The thing I find strange is professional rugby is a relatively new thing. They had the chance to start with a blank slate and create a sustainable successful league but instead seem determined to run it into the ground.
 
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Dubai-Dodger

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  • Jun 12, 2022
  • #4,273
Gynnsthetonic said:
It's not got the appeal and money that football has though which I think they thought was going to happen when they moved to Coventry, it seems to be getting less popular
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It never has had the following of football and never will and I don’t think anyone thought Wasps moving to Cov would change that.
 
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Dubai-Dodger

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  • Jun 12, 2022
  • #4,274
chiefdave said:
Said it before but rugby fans would be well served looking at CVCs role in other sports and the state they've been left in. They've come in, taken what they can, and then walked away.

The thing I find strange is professional rugby is a relatively new thing. They had the chance to start with a blank slate and create a sustainable successful league but instead seem determined to run it into the ground.
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Don’t disagree about CVC but rugby is more than just the English premiership
 
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Peter Billing Eyes

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  • Jun 12, 2022
  • #4,275
Dubai-Dodger said:
Interesting ….. my understanding is very different…. Perhaps we agree to disagree.
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This post really takes the biscuit. You really are a delusional individual and completely misguided.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 12, 2022
  • #4,276
Dubai-Dodger said:
It never has had the following of football and never will and I don’t think anyone thought Wasps moving to Cov would change that.
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Nicky did

Why the 'hard yards' have started for Wasps at Ricoh Arena

The near-capacity Ricoh Arena crowd for Bath game was Wasps' second-biggest at the venue
www.coventrytelegraph.net
 
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Dubai-Dodger

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  • Jun 12, 2022
  • #4,277
Peter Billing Eyes said:
This post really takes the biscuit. You really are a delusional individual and completely misguided.
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Explain ? Instead of simply posting insults. Why am I misguided ? Your have no idea what interaction I have with Coventry Rugby.
 
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Dubai-Dodger

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  • Jun 12, 2022
  • #4,278
Grendel said:
Nicky did

Why the 'hard yards' have started for Wasps at Ricoh Arena

The near-capacity Ricoh Arena crowd for Bath game was Wasps' second-biggest at the venue
www.coventrytelegraph.net
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I was meaning football in general …. I’m not sure where Eastwood said that but does it really matter now ?
 
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Peter Billing Eyes

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  • Jun 12, 2022
  • #4,279
Dubai-Dodger said:
Explain ? Instead of simply posting insults. Why am I misguided ? Your have no idea what interaction I have with Coventry Rugby.
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Implying that Cov Rugby and their fans were in favour of Wasps relocation to Coventry. You couldn’t be further off the mark. But you’re clearly just here on the troll, don’t you have friends and family you can go and annoy instead?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 12, 2022
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Dubai-Dodger said:
Don’t disagree about CVC but rugby is more than just the English premiership
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Not if the clubs in the Premiership have anything to do with it!
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Jun 12, 2022
  • #4,281
Dubai-Dodger said:
weren’t welcome by who ? ….. A few vocal CCFC supporters on a forum pissed off because Wasps moved into the Ricoh…. Hardly representative of the Coventry population.

As for Wasps being despised in the Rugby community like MK Dons. ….. I’d love to see where anyone sees that.
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Hardly representative of the coventry population



No, i mean you get 4k a week at a push, you've been welcomed with open arms clearly
 

Gynnsthetonic

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  • Jun 12, 2022
  • #4,282
Dubai-Dodger said:
It never has had the following of football and never will and I don’t think anyone thought Wasps moving to Cov would change that.
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Daniel Gidney quoted that Wasps playing in Coventry with big crowds was what the Ricoh was made for, Coventry Council wanted the city to be a rugby city and do away with the football, truth is we're not a city of rugby but a city of Coventry City football fans going by the play off win attendance and homecoming on the Monday night, something no rugby club could achieve
 
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steveo1987

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  • Jun 12, 2022
  • #4,283
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
The local area? Well they’ve displaced the local football team, took advantage of a situation they had no business being involved with. Flooded the local schools with free tickets - taking away from the local rugby team.

reneged on a promise to regenerate the north east.

no they don’t have to support Coventry rugby, but I’m sure there’s Birmingham rugby teams they can support, or other local midlands teams like Leicester or Northampton.

wasps are worse than MK Dons, at least they went to a town with no football team
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Displaced local sporting teams from Henley in Arden aswell including disabled sports clubs..
I wonder how many of the world's top players are queuing up to join Wasps now the training ground is up and running as Lawrence Dallaglio claimed.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Jun 12, 2022
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steveo1987 said:
Displaced local sporting teams from Henley in Arden aswell including disabled sports clubs..
I wonder how many of the world's top players are queuing up to join Wasps now the training ground is up and running as Lawrence Dallaglio claimed.
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The training ground has been a shambles from day one. the promise was a new state of the art facility to benefit the people of Coventry. Then they tried to get us booted out of Higgs so they could have that. Then promised Old Leamingtonians they were going to move there which led to them evicting existing tenants to make way for Wasps. Finally they go to Henley, takeover a community facility, and remove it from public use leaving the town with zero facilities all with massive opposition for the locals.

Still they promised the locals some free tickets.
 
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Dubai-Dodger

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  • Jun 12, 2022
  • #4,285
Gynnsthetonic said:
Daniel Gidney quoted that Wasps playing in Coventry with big crowds was what the Ricoh was made for, Coventry Council wanted the city to be a rugby city and do away with the football, truth is we're not a city of rugby but a city of Coventry City football fans going by the play off win attendance and homecoming on the Monday night, something no rugby club could achieve
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who is Daniel Gidney ?
 
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Dubai-Dodger

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  • Jun 12, 2022
  • #4,286
chiefdave said:
The training ground has been a shambles from day one. the promise was a new state of the art facility to benefit the people of Coventry.
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it took a while to build ……. Would be interested to see you quote that promise. ?
 
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Dubai-Dodger

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  • Jun 12, 2022
  • #4,287
Peter Billing Eyes said:
Implying that Cov Rugby and their fans were in favour of Wasps relocation to Coventry. You couldn’t be further off the mark. But you’re clearly just here on the troll, don’t you have friends and family you can go and annoy instead?
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As I said …. That’s not my general experience….. clearly you disagree and you find it annoying that I don’t agree with you …… doesn’t make a troll !
 
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Dubai-Dodger

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  • Jun 12, 2022
  • #4,288
Saddlebrains said:
No, i mean you get 4k a week at a push, you've been welcomed with open arms clearly
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Glad you think so
 

Gynnsthetonic

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  • Jun 12, 2022
  • #4,289
Dubai-Dodger said:
who is Daniel Gidney ?
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Ex Chief Exec of ACL who wanted to bring Wasps to Coventry before Richardson did. Now at Old Trafford Cricket
 
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Dubai-Dodger

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  • Jun 12, 2022
  • #4,290
Gynnsthetonic said:
Ex Chief Exec of ACL who wanted to bring Wasps to Coventry before Richardson did. Now at Old Trafford Cricket
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Ah ok …. blimey …. You dragged that one out of the archives.
 

MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • Jun 12, 2022
  • #4,291
Dubai-Dodger said:
Ah ok …. blimey …. You dragged that one out of the archives.
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And this is why the past is important. Knowledge of how we got here will help you understand the feeling of Coventry football and rugby fans.

Also, I'm pretty sure those parties who are apparently going to be financing the bond repayment will be very interested in the last few years history of massive losses.

I've no problems you being on this board to discuss things.
 
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SkyBlueCharlie9

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  • Jun 13, 2022
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Dubai-Dodger said:
im glad I’m in your good books then… I’ve followed Wasps since they were amateur ! …… why shouldn’t someone from the Midlands who enjoys rugby be able to go and watch Wasps .. what’s the big deal ?
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Only 2 Wasps 'fans' I know both live in Kent and only go io a match when they get free tickets as they both work for the NHS ! Both hate the fact Wasps have moved to Cov.
 
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Dubai-Dodger

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  • Jun 13, 2022
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MusicDating said:
And this is why the past is important. Knowledge of how we got here will help you understand the feeling of Coventry football and rugby fans.

Also, I'm pretty sure those parties who are apparently going to be financing the bond repayment will be very interested in the last few years history of massive losses.

I've no problems you being on this board to discuss things.
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I get the history aspect and the past, but that works both ways, many on this forum are completely dismissive of what led up to Wasps leaving Adams Park or anything relating to Wasps unless it fits a certain agenda.
 
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Dubai-Dodger

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  • Jun 13, 2022
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SkyBlueCharlie9 said:
Only 2 Wasps 'fans' I know both live in Kent and only go io a match when they get free tickets as they both work for the NHS ! Both hate the fact Wasps have moved to Cov.
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I know plenty of Wasps supporters who no longer attend due to the move, that isn’t in doubt. It also has nothing to do with the post you quoted.
 

Skybluemichael

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  • Jun 13, 2022
  • #4,295
this is a good brake down of what happened to the stadium

BREAKING: Coventry City owners Sisu will drop legal action IF Wasps agree fair Ricoh deal and council backs new stadium

COVENTRY City's owners Sisu say they will drop legal action against the council's Ricoh Arena sale to Wasps - in exchange for a 'commercially acceptable' Ricoh deal and council support for new stadium
coventryobserver.co.uk
 

mr_monkey

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  • Jun 13, 2022
  • #4,296
Dubai-Dodger said:
I get the history aspect and the past, but that works both ways, many on this forum are completely dismissive of what led up to Wasps leaving Adams Park or anything relating to Wasps unless it fits a certain agenda.
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How about the fact that wasps kicked out people in Henley to build a new training ground, that's not digging anything up from the archives, just more shitty behaviour
 
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Dubai-Dodger

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  • Jun 13, 2022
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Talking of free tickets ….. wasn’t really hard to find this online ….. I didn’t really look much further .

Just about every sporting club will give free tickets away in the community it’s not unique to Wasps.

Log In ‹ Broad Heath Primary School — WordPress

www.broadheath.coventry.sch.uk
 
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Dubai-Dodger

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  • Jun 13, 2022
  • #4,298
mr_monkey said:
How about the fact that wasps kicked out people in Henley to build a new training ground, that's not digging anything up from the archives, just more shitty behaviour
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I will be genuinely interested to read about that. Please post a link and I’ll read it.
 

mr_monkey

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  • Jun 13, 2022
  • #4,299
Dubai-Dodger said:
I will be genuinely interested to read about that. Please post a link and I’ll read it.
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Redirect Notice
 
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Dubai-Dodger

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  • Jun 13, 2022
  • #4,300
mr_monkey said:
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Interesting read thanks. …… so where does the fault lie ….. with the buyer or seller ? This also goes to perhaps show that local press isn’t always pro wasps !

have the previous users been relocated ? …. Can’t find much complaining since 2019 ….. perhaps they are now happy with other facilities nearby …. That’s a genuine question… I don’t know.
 

mr_monkey

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  • Jun 13, 2022
  • #4,301
Dubai-Dodger said:
Interesting read thanks. …… so where does the fault lie ….. with the buyer or seller ? This also goes to perhaps show that local press isn’t always pro wasps !

have the previous users been relocated ? …. Can’t find much complaining since 2019 ….. perhaps they are now happy with other facilities nearby …. That’s a genuine question… I don’t know.
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Not much else they can do now since it went through and the facilities have been built. Wasps also tried to buy and kick the football club and it's academy out of the higgs centre but then couldn't afford it

Adds to the nomadic nature I guess that the training ground is miles away from Coventry
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 13, 2022
  • #4,302
Dubai-Dodger said:
Interesting read thanks. …… so where does the fault lie ….. with the buyer or seller ? This also goes to perhaps show that local press isn’t always pro wasps !

have the previous users been relocated ? …. Can’t find much complaining since 2019 ….. perhaps they are now happy with other facilities nearby …. That’s a genuine question… I don’t know.
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Here is the Twitter group

 
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Dubai-Dodger

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  • Jun 13, 2022
  • #4,303
mr_monkey said:
Adds to the nomadic nature I guess that the training ground is miles away from Coventry
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nothing Unusual about training grounds not being near where a team plays …… happens in football a lot.
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 13, 2022
  • #4,304
Dubai-Dodger said:
nothing Unusual about training grounds not being near where a team plays …… happens in football a lot.
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Well of course what they had always said they would do is build one in Coventry as part of the regeneration and Job creation plans as well as kicking the football club out of course

Wasps pull out of £7m training centre plan on Higgs centre site of Coventry City’s lifeblood academy

WASPS rugby club have pulled out of plans to build a £7million training centre at the Alan Higgs Centre home of Coventry City Football Club's purpose-built 'lifebood' youth academy.
coventryobserver.co.uk
 
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jordan210

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  • Jun 13, 2022
  • #4,305
Dubai-Dodger said:
Talking of free tickets ….. wasn’t really hard to find this online ….. I didn’t really look much further .

Just about every sporting club will give free tickets away in the community it’s not unique to Wasps.

Log In ‹ Broad Heath Primary School — WordPress

www.broadheath.coventry.sch.uk
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I will bite. We have a long standing relationship with local schools. Skyblues in the community do a lot of things like summer camps, school visits and so on.


Giving tickets back to the community is different than wasps strategy of giving anyone and everyone a ticket.

The comments under that post is parents who are realy excited and grateful for the tickets.

On the flip side its not a good look when you could go in to a Bank in Northampton and get free tickets to a Rugby match in coventry.


Ouch "My amateur club is affiliated with Wasps and we get 30 free tickets. Even then, only about 3 or 4 get used." comments on this reddit post

 
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