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Dubai-Dodger

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  • Jun 11, 2022
  • #4,131
Saddlebrains said:
I would rather drink my dead nans bathwater while being gang raped by 16 well endowed nigerians

Nothing but scum any of them that arent from London. Anyone from a CV postcode that follows them are grouped with Nonses in my eyes

And irrelevant about TV, you forget your shit club tweets pictures of the place for everygame, or someone on social media uploads a pic. Place is empty, stop lying to yourselves
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im glad I’m in your good books then… I’ve followed Wasps since they were amateur ! …… why shouldn’t someone from the Midlands who enjoys rugby be able to go and watch Wasps .. what’s the big deal ?
 

mr_monkey

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  • Jun 11, 2022
  • #4,132
Dubai-Dodger said:
If those are questions for me …..

1. I don’t know.
2. No
3. No it hasn’t.
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I think you need to show your working for point 3
 

mr_monkey

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  • Jun 11, 2022
  • #4,133
Dubai-Dodger said:
im glad I’m in your good books then… I’ve followed Wasps since they were amateur ! …… why shouldn’t someone from the Midlands who enjoys rugby be able to go and watch Wasps .. what’s the big deal ?
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And that sums it up in a nutshell, you don't care what affect this nonsense has had on the local area especially the already established rugby team
 
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Dubai-Dodger

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  • Jun 11, 2022
  • #4,134
Grendel said:
The issue is though rugby is a fairly limited sport for financial backing of that magnitude - it doesn’t have global brand appeal
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As I said for many reasons people bank roll Business it’s nothing to do with global brands. For some it’s like a toy spending pocket change. Although clearly not the case with Richardson.
 
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Dubai-Dodger

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  • Jun 11, 2022
  • #4,135
mr_monkey said:
And that sums it up in a nutshell, you don't care what affect this nonsense has had on the local area especially the already established rugby team
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what effect has this had in the local area outside of your little world. ?

I speak to many people who come to watch Wasps from many parts of the midlands and beyond and who’ve never been near Cov Rugby. Are you suggesting that anyone who watches Wasps should be attending Cov Rugby instead ?
 

mr_monkey

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  • Jun 11, 2022
  • #4,136
Dubai-Dodger said:
what effect has this had in the local area outside of your little world. ?

I speak to many people who come to watch Wasps from many parts of the midlands and beyond and who’ve never been near Cov Rugby. Are you suggesting that anyone who watches Wasps should be attending Cov Rugby instead ?
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If they are from Coventry absolutely

You support your local team, wasps never have and never will be a local team
 
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Philosoraptor

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  • Jun 11, 2022
  • #4,137
Dubai-Dodger said:
what effect has this had in the local area outside of your little world. ?

I speak to many people who come to watch Wasps from many parts of the midlands and beyond and who’ve never been near Cov Rugby. Are you suggesting that anyone who watches Wasps should be attending Cov Rugby instead ?
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Do they all arrive in the same minibus 'cause the Arena is next to empty.
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Jun 11, 2022
  • #4,138
Dubai-Dodger said:
I speak to many people who come to watch Wasps
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Are you lot still socially distancing from the rest of Coventry?

 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jun 11, 2022
  • #4,139
Dubai-Dodger said:
what effect has this had in the local area outside of your little world. ?

I speak to many people who come to watch Wasps from many parts of the midlands and beyond and who’ve never been near Cov Rugby. Are you suggesting that anyone who watches Wasps should be attending Cov Rugby instead ?
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The local area? Well they’ve displaced the local football team, took advantage of a situation they had no business being involved with. Flooded the local schools with free tickets - taking away from the local rugby team.

reneged on a promise to regenerate the north east.

no they don’t have to support Coventry rugby, but I’m sure there’s Birmingham rugby teams they can support, or other local midlands teams like Leicester or Northampton.

wasps are worse than MK Dons, at least they went to a town with no football team
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Jun 11, 2022
  • #4,140
Philosorapter said:
Are you lot still socially distancing from the rest of Coventry?

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Now now, they regularly get at least 8 thousand paying customers remember
 
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Dubai-Dodger

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  • Jun 11, 2022
  • #4,141
Same old echo chamber on here …… you’ve all been banging the same drum for 8 years ….. whether it’s 8 or 8,000 Wasps are here for now like it or not ….. maybe not forever but who knows
 
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CCFC54321

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  • Jun 11, 2022
  • #4,142
Dubai-Dodger said:
im glad I’m in your good books then… I’ve followed Wasps since they were amateur ! …… why shouldn’t someone from the Midlands who enjoys rugby be able to go and watch Wasps .. what’s the big deal ?
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Believe me we WILL FINISH you bastards off eventually. Your arrogance in coming into the city will be the beginning of the end for you and believe me you horrible little grinning little bastard we will have the party of the century when WE WILL drive you out of this city.

Now fuck off.
 
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CCFC54321

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  • Jun 11, 2022
  • #4,143
mr_monkey said:
He's the telegraph's wasps reporter so he should be on it, but I guess if he writes something negative he might lose his free shirts
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Fucking to right. In his back pocket!
 
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Dubai-Dodger

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  • Jun 11, 2022
  • #4,144
CCFC54321 said:
Believe me we WILL FINISH you bastards off eventually. Your arrogance in coming into the city will be the beginning of the end for you and believe me you horrible little grinning little bastard we will have the party of the century when WE WILL drive you out of this city.

Now fuck off.
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say what you mean
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 12, 2022
  • #4,145
Dubai-Dodger said:
im glad I’m in your good books then… I’ve followed Wasps since they were amateur ! …… why shouldn’t someone from the Midlands who enjoys rugby be able to go and watch Wasps .. what’s the big deal ?
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Well there’s plenty of established top flight clubs already in the region-depending on how broadly you define what counts there’s Gloucester, Worcester, Northampton and Lesta. If you wanted it, it was already there in abundance.

Nobody objects to you going to watch the egg chasing. They’d just rather it have been somewhere else all along.
 
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Dubai-Dodger

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  • Jun 12, 2022
  • #4,146
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Well there’s plenty of established top flight clubs already in the region-depending on how broadly you define what counts there’s Gloucester, Worcester, Northampton and Lesta. If you wanted it, it was already there in abundance.

Nobody objects to you going to watch the egg chasing. They’d just rather it have been somewhere else all along.
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It’s not for me …. Like I said I’ve followed Wasps for donkeys years since both Wasps and I were in west London. I get what you say though but at the end of the day people choose where they go and watch sport. Much as they do with football.
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Jun 12, 2022
  • #4,147
BuT wE gEt 8k A gAmE
 
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Dubai-Dodger

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  • Jun 12, 2022
  • #4,148
Saddlebrains said:
BuT wE gEt 8k A gAmEView attachment 24984
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The 8k came from one of your own mates …. Not me ….. reality is, like I said whether it’s 8 or 8000 Wasps are there !
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Jun 12, 2022
  • #4,149
Just a couple more
 
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Dubai-Dodger

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  • Jun 12, 2022
  • #4,150
Saddlebrains said:
Just a couple more View attachment 24985View attachment 24986
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Great to see so many are using CBS Arena.

On a serious note it just illustrates that in any sport there are thousands of ‘good time’ supporters ….. when you are doing well you have thousands more
 
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Peter Billing Eyes

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  • Jun 12, 2022
  • #4,151
Dubai-Dodger said:
what effect has this had in the local area outside of your little world. ?

I speak to many people who come to watch Wasps from many parts of the midlands and beyond and who’ve never been near Cov Rugby. Are you suggesting that anyone who watches Wasps should be attending Cov Rugby instead ?
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Dubai-Dodger said:
Great to see so many are using CBS Arena.

On a serious note it just illustrates that in any sport there are thousands of ‘good time’ supporters ….. when you are doing well you have thousands more
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I guess someone’s got to use it….Sadly for Wasps, your ‘good time’ supporters were only have a good time as long as the tickets were free. The true level of your support is dismal.
 
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Dubai-Dodger

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  • Jun 12, 2022
  • #4,152
Peter Billing Eyes said:
I guess someone’s got to use it….Sadly for Wasps, your ‘good time’ supporters were only have a good time as long as the tickets were free. The true level of your support is dismal.
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From a business perspective doesn’t really matter who uses it.

Not sure I agree that Wasps good time supporters were only there because of free tickets. Of course there were free tickets but Wasps have reached 2 premiership finals and Other top tier games since they have been in Cov …. That surely swelled numbers much the same as CCFC gates have swelled because of the great resurgence of the team. You can’t use the argument both ways.
 
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skybluesam66

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  • Jun 12, 2022
  • #4,153
8000 is 1 in 4 seats filled , there are less than 1000 in that photo - there were none in the away end , the home end a bit more full - but 4k max
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 12, 2022
  • #4,154
Dubai-Dodger said:
From a business perspective doesn’t really matter who uses it.

Not sure I agree that Wasps good time supporters were only there because of free tickets. Of course there were free tickets but Wasps have reached 2 premiership finals and Other top tier games since they have been in Cov …. That surely swelled numbers much the same as CCFC gates have swelled because of the great resurgence of the team. You can’t use the argument both ways.
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Erm handing out bucketloads of free tickets obviously inflates the numbers. Nobody on this forum wants Wasps here-it’s not personal against you but surely you knew that when you signed up?
 
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Dubai-Dodger

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  • Jun 12, 2022
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skybluesam66 said:
8000 is 1 in 4 seats filled , there are less than 1000 in that photo - there were none in the away end , the home end a bit more full - but 4k max
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so we have established its 4000 ….. not 8000 thanks.
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 12, 2022
  • #4,156
Dubai-Dodger said:
The 8k came from one of your own mates …. Not me ….. reality is, like I said whether it’s 8 or 8000 Wasps are there !
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The crowd argument is irrelevant and I’d assume you have to have an accurate measure of tickets sold for customs and excise

The business itself is the issue. It’s failed miserably on its objectives, the bond scheme has failed and crucially it’s treated bond holders who’ve funded the business poorly

Eastwood is born from the same slime and spin gene pool as fisher and Vaughan talks the same game.

The ultimate irony is the behaviour is no better than the football club owners.

At some point if indeed it is happening now it would be an answer for what is happening - the main business will be separated or sold from the rugby club.
 
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Dubai-Dodger

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  • Jun 12, 2022
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
Erm handing out bucketloads of free tickets obviously inflates the numbers. Nobody on this forum wants Wasps here-it’s not personal against you but surely you knew that when you signed up?
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Personally I don’t really care if it’s against me, I’m actually shocked I haven’t been banned from posting, but I guess there is time. I get it that nobody on this thread wants Wasps in Cov, but like it or not there are also a lot of people that don’t really care. Reality is Wasps are there and quite possibly will be for years to come, how the business pans out remains to be seen but my guess is that Wasps won’t go far for many many years.

Yes of course free tickets inflate numbers but so do paying customers ….. how many were free and how many paid neither you or I know. Everyone on here wants to believe that the stadium was full of freebies but I doubt that’s the case.
 
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Dubai-Dodger

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  • Jun 12, 2022
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Grendel said:
The crowd argument is irrelevant and I’d assume you have to have an accurate measure of tickets sold for customs and excise

The business itself is the issue. It’s failed miserably on its objectives, the bond scheme has failed and crucially it’s treated bond holders who’ve funded the business poorly

Eastwood is born from the same slime and spin gene pool as fisher and Vaughan talks the same game.

The ultimate irony is the behaviour is no better than the football club owners.

At some point if indeed it is happening now it would be an answer for what is happening - the main business will be separated or sold from the rugby club.
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can’t disagree with much of what you say !
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 12, 2022
  • #4,159
Dubai-Dodger said:
Personally I don’t really care if it’s against me, I’m actually shocked I haven’t been banned from posting, but I guess there is time. I get it that nobody on this thread wants Wasps in Cov, but like it or not there are also a lot of people that don’t really care. Reality is Wasps are there and quite possibly will be for years to come, how the business pans out remains to be seen but my guess is that Wasps won’t go far for many many years.

Yes of course free tickets inflate numbers but so do paying customers ….. how many were free and how many paid neither you or I know. Everyone on here wants to believe that the stadium was full of freebies but I doubt that’s the case.
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Again there is a difference between wanting something to happen and expecting it to.
 
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CCFC54321

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  • Jun 12, 2022
  • #4,160
Dubai-Dodger said:
Personally I don’t really care if it’s against me, I’m actually shocked I haven’t been banned from posting, but I guess there is time. I get it that nobody on this thread wants Wasps in Cov, but like it or not there are also a lot of people that don’t really care. Reality is Wasps are there and quite possibly will be for years to come, how the business pans out remains to be seen but my guess is that Wasps won’t go far for many many years.

Yes of course free tickets inflate numbers but so do paying customers ….. how many were free and how many paid neither you or I know. Everyone on here wants to believe that the stadium was full of freebies but I doubt that’s the case.
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If you are losing £10m a year and have debt of £65m I can assure you that you won’t be here for many years. Your on the verge of liquidation and still spending money like it’s going out of fashion.
 
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Dubai-Dodger

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  • Jun 12, 2022
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CCFC54321 said:
If you are losing £10m a year and have debt of £65m I can assure you that you won’t be here for many years. Your on the verge of liquidation and still spending money like it’s going out of fashion.
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I think you need to look at the situation a little deeper perhaps as Grendel does ….. I have no doubt the business will be restructured, one way or another my own view is that Wasps as a rugby club playing in Cov won’t go far.
 

mr_monkey

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  • Jun 12, 2022
  • #4,162
Dubai-Dodger said:
I think you need to look at the situation a little deeper perhaps as Grendel does ….. I have no doubt the business will be restructured, one way or another my own view is that Wasps as a rugby club playing in Cov won’t go far.
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But surely as a fan of wasps you must be pissed off as this move seems to have caused more harm than good to the club as they are doing worse results (and attendance) wise now then when you played in Wycombe and also in a hell of a lot more debt than before

This is the reason why the cov press is so quiet about it, they backed wasps ahead of the local football and rugby clubs and it's all gone to shit
 
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Dubai-Dodger

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  • Jun 12, 2022
  • #4,163
mr_monkey said:
But surely as a fan of wasps you must be pissed off as this move seems to have caused more harm than good to the club as they are doing worse results (and attendance) wise now then when you played in Wycombe and also in a hell of a lot more debt than before

This is the reason why the cov press is so quiet about it, they backed wasps ahead of the local football and rugby clubs and it's all gone to shit
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I’m not happy with the business situation and that has to change. I wouldn’t say we are worse than Wycombe, Wasps were close to relegation and extinction as a business and we’re going nowhere at Wycombe. It’s nothing to do with the business that on field results haven’t gone well, there are lots of factors in that and that is the nature of sport. Tigers were a bottom table team last year, finalists this year ….. that’s sport.
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 12, 2022
  • #4,164
Dubai-Dodger said:
I’m not happy with the business situation and that has to change. I wouldn’t say we are worse than Wycombe, Wasps were close to relegation and extinction as a business and we’re going nowhere at Wycombe. It’s nothing to do with the business that on field results haven’t gone well, there are lots of factors in that and that is the nature of sport. Tigers were a bottom table team last year, finalists this year ….. that’s sport.
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The correlation with on field results and attendance doesn’t really exist in rugby - wasps were finalists last year but attendances remain low and decreasing
 

mr_monkey

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  • Jun 12, 2022
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Dubai-Dodger said:
I’m not happy with the business situation and that has to change. I wouldn’t say we are worse than Wycombe, Wasps were close to relegation and extinction as a business and we’re going nowhere at Wycombe. It’s nothing to do with the business that on field results haven’t gone well, there are lots of factors in that and that is the nature of sport. Tigers were a bottom table team last year, finalists this year ….. that’s sport.
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Well you were near the bottom thus season and if the finances continue the way they are going you aren't that far away from extinction now so basically up rooted to stay in the same position, cracking work
 
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