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clint van damme

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  • Jun 1, 2022
  • #3,921
SBT said:
Pretty pathetic from Turner. Bobby Bridge appears to be your classic client journalist, sad more than anything.

I’m inclined to agree that rather there being some grand company-wide conspiracy to bury the story, the CET simply doesn’t think its readers care enough about Wasps to bother trying to understand a relatively complicated story like this one. Will come back to bite them if this does turn out to be the beginning of the end, of course.
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If thats the case from the CET then they may as well give up and anyone working there has no right to call themselves a journalist.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2022
  • #3,922
SBT said:
Pretty pathetic from Turner. Bobby Bridge appears to be your classic client journalist, sad more than anything.

I’m inclined to agree that rather there being some grand company-wide conspiracy to bury the story, the CET simply doesn’t think its readers care enough about Wasps to bother trying to understand a relatively complicated story like this one. Will come back to bite them if this does turn out to be the beginning of the end, of course.
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it cares enough about wasps to have a section on the club - it doesn’t even have a rugby section so Coventry crfc hardly get mentioned and devoted a lot of time to the ccfc departures and strife with the council

also positive news stories

Look: Wasps Rugby officially opens its new training ground

The Gallagher Premiership club welcomed guests along to the grand opening on Wednesday, September 1
www.coventrytelegraph.net
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 1, 2022
  • #3,923
SBT said:
Pretty pathetic from Turner. Bobby Bridge appears to be your classic client journalist, sad more than anything.

I’m inclined to agree that rather there being some grand company-wide conspiracy to bury the story, the CET simply doesn’t think its readers care enough about Wasps to bother trying to understand a relatively complicated story like this one. Will come back to bite them if this does turn out to be the beginning of the end, of course.
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Fair enough

The Coventry bus lanes that have seen the most and the fewest fines

Warwick Road has handed out more than 100,000 fines to drivers in the last 7 years
www.coventrytelegraph.net
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 1, 2022
  • #3,924
It's very lazy to just say "the telegraph don't think it's reader's care".

I'd say more care in the city if the Ricoh goes tit's up as opposed to the shitty PR pieces they copy and paste for Wasps.

Besides, I'd guess at least 50% off the crap they publish now isn't even from stuff going on in Coventry.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2022
  • #3,925
SBT said:
Pretty pathetic from Turner. Bobby Bridge appears to be your classic client journalist, sad more than anything.

I’m inclined to agree that rather there being some grand company-wide conspiracy to bury the story, the CET simply doesn’t think its readers care enough about Wasps to bother trying to understand a relatively complicated story like this one. Will come back to bite them if this does turn out to be the beginning of the end, of course.
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It's readers don't care? They've got better things to write about? From the newspaper that prints stories like '5 things to buy off Wish this weekend'.


 

Liquid Gold

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  • Jun 1, 2022
  • #3,926
Why don't they run a little story and see if their readers care instead of making the decision for them
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 1, 2022
  • #3,927
David conn has written numerous articles about Sisu and yet he also is very silent on what potentially could be a big scandal looming
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2022
  • #3,928
I know she isn't that bright but Ann Lucas retiring looks timely
 
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SBT

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  • Jun 1, 2022
  • #3,929
Liquid Gold said:
Why don't they run a little story and see if their readers care instead of making the decision for them
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Because as I say, they can’t be bothered to try and understand the story themselves, and the lack of interest around Wasps doesn’t offer them enough of an incentive to start. It’s undeniably lazy and will make them look stupid if it snowballs into something bigger. The only journalist covering Wasps full-time is some kid whose entire meagre livelihood apparently depends on getting people to Wasps games.

The CET, like most local newspapers, is a hollowed out shell which mostly has to do clickbait online shit to satisfy the corporate masters, and handout stories (like Wasps giveaways or the bus lane story posted above) to substitute for the actual reporting they can barely afford to do. It’s a sad state of affairs all round.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 1, 2022
  • #3,930
SBT said:
Because as I say, they can’t be bothered to try and understand the story themselves, and the lack of interest around Wasps doesn’t offer them enough of an incentive to start. It’s undeniably lazy and will make them look stupid if it snowballs into something bigger. The only journalist covering Wasps full-time is some kid whose entire meagre livelihood apparently depends on getting people to Wasps games.

The CET, like most local newspapers, is a hollowed out shell which mostly has to do clickbait online shit to satisfy the corporate masters, and handout stories (like Wasps giveaways or the bus lane story posted above) to substitute for the actual reporting they can barely afford to do. It’s a sad state of affairs all round.
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there’s a story nearly every day about wasps

here is yesterdays

Wade exclusive: 'Wasps are obviously keen to have me back in the mix'

Former Buffalo Bills running back is considering a return to rugby union
www.coventrytelegraph.net
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 1, 2022
  • #3,931
Grendel said:
there’s a story nearly every day about wasps

here is yesterdays

Wade exclusive: 'Wasps are obviously keen to have me back in the mix'

Former Buffalo Bills running back is considering a return to rugby union
www.coventrytelegraph.net
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They could at least have used a photo of him in front of actual spectators
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2022
  • #3,932
Coventry live has 90,000 followers and posts links and tweets hourly but again no mention
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2022
  • #3,933
Grendel said:
there’s a story nearly every day about wasps

here is yesterdays

Wade exclusive: 'Wasps are obviously keen to have me back in the mix'

Former Buffalo Bills running back is considering a return to rugby union
www.coventrytelegraph.net
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It’s tragic - I bet most of the clicks for that story today will come from this forum.

If Bobby Bridge decides to make a big deal out of this bond repayment stuff, he not only has to find a copy of Finance For Dummies and spend a couple of days reading it, he also has to start undermining the solvency of the one company that keeps him in a job. His bosses don’t care because no-one reads his stories anyway, and they can probably do without the angry phone call from Wasps PR later this afternoon. What do you think he’ll decide to do?
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2022
  • #3,934
Grendel said:
it cares enough about wasps to have a section on the club - it doesn’t even have a rugby section so Coventry crfc hardly get mentioned and devoted a lot of time to the ccfc departures and strife with the council

also positive news stories

Look: Wasps Rugby officially opens its new training ground

The Gallagher Premiership club welcomed guests along to the grand opening on Wednesday, September 1
www.coventrytelegraph.net
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It'll just publish stuff that the Wasps press officer (if they still have one) send out, it's not really proactive as such.
 
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djr8369

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  • Jun 1, 2022
  • #3,935
SBT said:
It’s tragic - I bet most of the clicks for that story today will come from this forum.

If Bobby Bridge decides to make a big deal out of this bond repayment stuff, he not only has to find a copy of Finance For Dummies and spend a couple of days reading it, he also has to start undermining the solvency of the one company that keeps him in a job. His bosses don’t care because no-one reads his stories anyway, and they can probably do without the angry phone call from Wasps PR later this afternoon. What do you think he’ll decide to do?
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Isn’t that pretty much what everyone is saying?
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 1, 2022
  • #3,936
SBT said:
It’s tragic - I bet most of the clicks for that story today will come from this forum.

If Bobby Bridge decides to make a big deal out of this bond repayment stuff, he not only has to find a copy of Finance For Dummies and spend a couple of days reading it, he also has to start undermining the solvency of the one company that keeps him in a job. His bosses don’t care because no-one reads his stories anyway, and they can probably do without the angry phone call from Wasps PR later this afternoon. What do you think he’ll decide to do?
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Bridge is freelance he doesn’t work for Covtel
 
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SBT

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  • Jun 1, 2022
  • #3,937
Grendel said:
Bridge is freelance he doesn’t work for Covtel
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Do you think he’ll get more work or less work with them in future if his primary beat disappears?

djr8369 said:
Isn’t that pretty much what everyone is saying?
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Yeah, I’m referring more to the people who claim something explicitly “dodgy” is going on. I think it’s more shoddy and craven than outright corrupt.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 1, 2022
  • #3,938
The fact they know something is going on and are choosing not to even mention it, is dodgy.

It's there on companies house as a source, for example.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Jun 1, 2022
  • #3,939
SBT said:
Do you think he’ll get more work or less work with them in future if his primary beat disappears?



Yeah, I’m referring more to the people who claim something explicitly “dodgy” is going on. I think it’s more shoddy and craven than outright corrupt.
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I think he's likely to get more work if he proves he can be an actual journalist rather than reposting press releases.

Play the long game, try and make something of yourself.
 
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djr8369

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  • Jun 1, 2022
  • #3,940

Fair. Simplest explanation and all that.

I suppose it’s embarrassing as much as anything and that applies to the readers as well who decided they were fans overnight but have now given up going to games.
 
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AOM

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  • Jun 1, 2022
  • #3,941
Genuine question, what would Coventry Telegraph have to lose by reporting negatively on Wasps?
Do they get free advertising or something during Wasps matches?
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Jun 1, 2022
  • #3,942
AOM said:
Genuine question, what would Coventry Telegraph have to lose by reporting negatively on Wasps?
Do they get free advertising or something during Wasps matches?
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Wasps used to be a fairly significant advertiser, don't know if that's still the case.
 
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covcity4life

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  • Jun 1, 2022
  • #3,943
Brighton Sky Blue said:
They could at least have used a photo of him in front of actual spectators
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But then it would be fake news
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 1, 2022
  • #3,944
SBT said:
Pretty pathetic from Turner. Bobby Bridge appears to be your classic client journalist, sad more than anything.

I’m inclined to agree that rather there being some grand company-wide conspiracy to bury the story, the CET simply doesn’t think its readers care enough about Wasps to bother trying to understand a relatively complicated story like this one. Will come back to bite them if this does turn out to be the beginning of the end, of course.
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…yet it thinks its readers cared enough when it was printing positive stories.
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Jun 1, 2022
  • #3,945
There's been a few changes in the twilight hours.



ARENA COVENTRY LIMITED
Company number 04440684

01 Jun 2022 Compulsory strike-off action has been discontinued
This document is being processed and will be available in 10 days.

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IEC EXPERIENCE LIMITED
Company number 08039699

01 Jun 2022 Compulsory strike-off action has been discontinued
This document is being processed and will be available in 10 days.

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However, this one is currently still motoring away to oblivion.


ARENA COVENTRY (2006) LIMITED
Company number 05675263

31 May 2022 First Gazette notice for compulsory strike-off

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Philosoraptor

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  • Jun 1, 2022
  • #3,946
Could be CH hasn't done the paperwork yet, or something else.
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Jun 1, 2022
  • #3,947
It is all very strange.
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 1, 2022
  • #3,948
Philosorapter said:
It is all very strange.
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I assume the accounts will be filed.

It does suggest restructuring and the loan being taken through a different company in the group
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Jun 1, 2022
  • #3,949
Grendel said:
I assume the accounts will be filed.

It does suggest restructuring and the loan being taken through a different company in the group
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I'm not too sure on that. My spider-senses are tingling.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 1, 2022
  • #3,950
Philosorapter said:
I'm not too sure on that. My spider-senses are tingling.
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I think you are going to be disappointed
 
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Philosoraptor

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  • Jun 1, 2022
  • #3,951
Grendel said:
I think you are going to be disappointed
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I think a very good argument can be made that this is the start of the end if the strike-off action against ARENA COVENTRY (2006) LIMITED isn't discontinued.
 
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SBT

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  • Jun 1, 2022
  • #3,952
Sick Boy said:
…yet it thinks its readers cared enough when it was printing positive stories.
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I doubt they do, but they’re committed to covering the team now (the sponsorship money clearly helped with this decision), so they have to print something, and it may as well be spoonfed puff pieces that don’t require any significant work on their part. Not going to win any Pulitzers any time soon, but it’ll keep the lights on.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 1, 2022
  • #3,953
Doesn't take much to write an article about late accounts does it? They seem fine writing them when it's CCFC or SISU?
 
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SBT

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  • Jun 1, 2022
  • #3,954
Nick said:
Doesn't take much to write an article about late accounts does it? They seem fine writing them when it's CCFC or SISU?
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As I said earlier - there is only one Wasps reporter and I honestly think it’s beyond his abilities. Even if I’m wrong, it’s not a story he wants to write, nor one his (tiny) audience wants to read.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 1, 2022
  • #3,955
SBT said:
As I said earlier - there is only one Wasps reporter and I honestly think it’s beyond his abilities. Even if I’m wrong, it’s not a story he wants to write, nor one his (tiny) audience wants to read.
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He’s not a wasps reporter as such and the story is more a business political story so it would be someone else’s domain

Gilbert wasn’t a ccfc reporter
 
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