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duffer

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  • May 30, 2022
  • #3,851
Gynnsthetonic said:
Are Wasps waiting until the after final game until making any announcements?
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Interesting theory, hadn't thought of that. Given the potential hole they're in I wouldn't have thought the lesser European competition would make that much difference, but I guess it's possible.
 
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oldfiver

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  • May 30, 2022
  • #3,852
Gynnsthetonic said:
Are Wasps waiting until the after final game until making any announcements?
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Perhaps waiting for remaining player contracts to run out ?
 
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Gynnsthetonic

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  • May 30, 2022
  • #3,853
oldfiver said:
Perhaps waiting for remaining player contracts to run out ?
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There are a lot of players leaving.
 

Gynnsthetonic

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  • May 30, 2022
  • #3,854
duffer said:
Interesting theory, hadn't thought of that. Given the potential hole they're in I wouldn't have thought the lesser European competition would make that much difference, but I guess it's possible.
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Not so much where they finish but do they just want to see the season out first?
 
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oldfiver

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  • May 30, 2022
  • #3,855
Grendel said:
Im aware of the lease forfeiture clause but what does it in practice mean. It states the default position in essence is a return to the council and also will protect sub leases - us and wasps RFC I assume - but it also says something about anyone having security over ACl - is that just bondhders or could the parent company also claim to have that?

I assume the long chain of companies were set up by Richardson for a purpose
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ACL and ACL 2006 have second charges over the lease due to Compass
In the 2020 Accounts there is a note that ACL owes Compass for its purchase of their Share of IEC - deferred to 2021. So that may be still outstanding
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 30, 2022
  • #3,856
Grendel said:
They were warning people to get there early

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I once forced a friend to get to Dudley an hour and a half before doors opened to see Phil Mogg on a solo tour, to make sure we got tickets. Pissed it down with rain as we waited for the doors to open.

I counted the crowd. 13, including us.
 
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CCFC54321

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  • May 30, 2022
  • #3,857
FulltimeWum said:
If Leicester beat them this weekend they miss out on Euro big cup.
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Only an utter bastard with the heart of stone, skin as think as a rhino, morals lower than the gutter would want London wasps to suffer much more than they already are as if they lose this weekend their plight only worsens.

COME ON LEICESTER!!!!
 
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Evo1883

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  • May 30, 2022
  • #3,858
Maybe CCFC should offer to buy the lease off them and rent them the stadium on Sundays to play egg ball ?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 30, 2022
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Evo1883 said:
Maybe CCFC should offer to buy the lease off them and rent them the stadium on Sundays to play egg ball ?
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Only at an extortionate, club-breaking rent though please!

(As a serious point, is there a stage where Wasps and CRFC merge, and take on CRFC's identity in the higher division? My other question is who will be spitting their tea out at that thought first? oldfiver or kneeza?)
 
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Evo1883

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  • May 30, 2022
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Seriously though , SISU must be watching all this and have some kind of far fetched plan in place ?
 

Philosoraptor

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  • May 30, 2022
  • #3,861
Evo1883 said:
Seriously though , SISU must be watching all this and have some kind of far fetched plan in place ?
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All this over a dressing room.
 
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oldfiver

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  • May 30, 2022
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Deleted member 5849 said:
Only at an extortionate, club-breaking rent though please!

(As a serious point, is there a stage where Wasps and CRFC merge, and take on CRFC's identity in the higher division? My other question is who will be spitting their tea out at that thought first? oldfiver or kneeza?)
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Sounds like a waste of tea?
 

Gynnsthetonic

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  • May 30, 2022
  • #3,863
Evo1883 said:
Seriously though , SISU must be watching all this and have some kind of far fetched plan in place ?
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What can SISU do, they won't purchase the lease unless it's given to them, or would they?
 

duffer

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  • May 30, 2022
  • #3,864
Deleted member 5849 said:
Only at an extortionate, club-breaking rent though please!

(As a serious point, is there a stage where Wasps and CRFC merge, and take on CRFC's identity in the higher division? My other question is who will be spitting their tea out at that thought first? oldfiver or kneeza?)
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Ooh, I think that might be stretching it. From memory, and I'm entirely happy to be corrected, I think Cov might have looked seriously about buying Bedford for exactly that reason. This was in the early days of professionalism when the club had basically missed the bus.

Truthfully, as a Cov RFC fan, and with an endless dislike of Wasps being in Coventry, I wouldn't want to do that to another club either - even them.

The RFU would probably let it happen though!
 
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duffer

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  • May 30, 2022
  • #3,865
Gynnsthetonic said:
What can SISU do, they won't purchase the lease unless it's given to them, or would they?
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There's an interesting question. Imagine if a 250-year lease came up at a price significantly lower than building our own ground. I think the fan pressure would be intense, especially given we can't see any real possibility of building a new stadium elsewhere.

I don't doubt SISU are secretly delighted to see Wasps in trouble. How it plays out though, that'll be interesting...
 
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duffer said:
Ooh, I think that might be stretching it. From memory, and I'm entirely happy to be corrected, I think Cov might have looked seriously about buying Bedford for exactly that reason. This was in the early days of professionalism when the club had basically missed the bus.
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They did. It's possibly the passport into the closed-shop cartel.
 
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Grendel

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  • May 30, 2022
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Bobby back from hols and showing his investigative journalist skills

 
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CCFC54321

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  • May 30, 2022
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Bobby bridge blocked me last year when I said something negative about his beloved London wasps.

Appears or it looks like he is so supportive of them that it’s influencing his journalism….?
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • May 30, 2022
  • #3,869
I really want them to go bust…. I have no sympathy for their fans, they should have fought better for their club. And the Coventry plastics deserve everything they get.

 
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SomersetSB

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  • May 30, 2022
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CCFCSteve

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  • May 30, 2022
  • #3,871
Gynnsthetonic said:
What can SISU do, they won't purchase the lease unless it's given to them, or would they?
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Yeah, of course they would, it’s just that they probably wouldn't be willing to pay much.

I’ve got no time for SISU but they might’ve played a good long game here and this could end up being the chance they’ve been holding out for


….until they get cocky, try to play hardball on price and then find out that the stadiums been sold to Blues for £5m
 
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chiefdave

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  • May 30, 2022
  • #3,872
Deleted member 5849 said:
As a serious point, is there a stage where Wasps and CRFC merge
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According to Rossborough that was suggested in the past

Wasps have been buzzing around Ricoh Arena for years

Coventry RFC president Peter Rossborough has informal discussions with rugby club owner Derek Richardson
www.coventrytelegraph.net
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 31, 2022
  • #3,873
CCFCSteve said:
Yeah, of course they would, it’s just that they probably wouldn't be willing to pay much.

I’ve got no time for SISU but they might’ve played a good long game here and this could end up being the chance they’ve been holding out for


….until they get cocky, try to play hardball on price and then find out that the stadiums been sold to Blues for £5m
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CCFC54321

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  • May 31, 2022
  • #3,874
Not sure if its relevant but someone on the waspies site is saying that carnival cruises only this week received a knock back on refinancing debt.
 
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CCFC54321

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  • May 31, 2022
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chiefdave said:
According to Rossborough that was suggested in the past

Wasps have been buzzing around Ricoh Arena for years

Coventry RFC president Peter Rossborough has informal discussions with rugby club owner Derek Richardson
www.coventrytelegraph.net
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Not sure if wasps survive they will want to be taken over by Coventry RFC and have their name changed!
 

Kneeza

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  • May 31, 2022
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Deleted member 5849 said:
Only at an extortionate, club-breaking rent though please!

(As a serious point, is there a stage where Wasps and CRFC merge, and take on CRFC's identity in the higher division? My other question is who will be spitting their tea out at that thought first? oldfiver or kneeza?)
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Fuck off.
And I'm being polite there.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 31, 2022
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Kneeza said:
Fuck off.
And I'm being polite there.
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I'll put you down in the unsure camp, then?
 
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Gynnsthetonic

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  • May 31, 2022
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So many players leaving Cov and Wasps, Rugby really seems to be on its arse, With no relegation from the Prem, clubs will run on threadbare squads to save money as they know they can't get relegated
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • May 31, 2022
  • #3,879
oldfiver said:
The problem will be is if the Registrar posts a Winding Up notice others can join in

At Companies Court any aggrieved person can join with or substitute the original applicant
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How do I apply?
 
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Kneeza

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  • May 31, 2022
  • #3,880
On a slightly different tack, the brain-deads at the RFU and their puppetmasters are overseeing this sort of debacle in the Premiership.
This is the seat-sales plan for the dead-rubber bottom-of-the-table game at Worcester this weekend. Bear in mind that some of those blocks marked as unavailable are normally closed anyway.
Shockingly bad uptake that makes Wasps look well-supported.
 
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Gynnsthetonic

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  • May 31, 2022
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Bobby Bridge back from his weekend jaunt but still totally ignoring Wasps financial plight
 

Kneeza

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  • May 31, 2022
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duffer said:
Ooh, I think that might be stretching it. From memory, and I'm entirely happy to be corrected, I think Cov might have looked seriously about buying Bedford for exactly that reason. This was in the early days of professionalism when the club had basically missed the bus.

Truthfully, as a Cov RFC fan, and with an endless dislike of Wasps being in Coventry, I wouldn't want to do that to another club either - even them.

The RFU would probably let it happen though!
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The RFU blocked it. Fairy had all the Bedford players training at Coundon Road (I saw them there), and the club name was being changed to Coventry Blues.
Fairy was a bit of a charlatan, mind.
 
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Nick

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  • May 31, 2022
  • #3,883
Gynnsthetonic said:
Bobby Bridge back from his weekend jaunt but still totally ignoring Wasps financial plight
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He will be waiting for a press release to copy and paste.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • May 31, 2022
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Gynnsthetonic said:
Whats happened to Les Reid too?
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Retired
 
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CCFC54321

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  • May 31, 2022
  • #3,885
Gynnsthetonic said:
Bobby Bridge back from his weekend jaunt but still totally ignoring Wasps financial plight
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You would of thought he will be asking questions and will most likely know what’s happening but will most probably be protecting wasps as best he can.
 
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