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Wasps administrators report (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter MalcSB
  • Start date Nov 30, 2022
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MalcSB

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  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #1
Admin report for ACL Astute 2006, OSB may be able to decipher! Looks like the two ACLs owed something like £70m, £12m of which to Sport England. Compass total loss of over £7m.
 

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MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #2
I presume another similar report will be due for ACL ( now ACL Astute 2022).
 

MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #3
Final offer for arena less than £16m
 

Robinshio

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #4
Not sure why the auditors are not hung out to dry
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #5
Scumbags.
 
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Rusty Trombone

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  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #6

Probably explains the signs being taken down, the sign company were owed £93k.
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #7

Joe Launchbury exclusive interview: 'The RFU knew of Wasps' demise for five years'

By the time you read this Joe Launchbury will already be in Japan, bedding in with his new club Toyota Verblitz ahead of the start of the Japan Rugby League One season in the middle of December.
uk.yahoo.com
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #8
Some of the small businesses who have been fucked over is criminal.

AV company owed £120k

Interesingly CCC owed over £250k.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #9
Money owed to the ambulance services.

Fucking pricks.

I bet that's not their fault?
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #10
Scott Joyce Builder Ltd owed nearly £15k.

It's shit like that, no idea who the bloke is but £15k isn't small change to a lot of the people who were owed.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #11
Valuations are interesting, £24-35m without WRFC but presumably including CCFC. Yet Ashley got it for £16m.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #12
What do they owe Sport England for?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #13
fernandopartridge said:
Valuations are interesting, £24-35m without WRFC but presumably including CCFC. Yet Ashley got it for £16m.
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Surely the Administrators didn't really do the best for the creditors if they just paid the Bondholders back with what Ashley paid?
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #14
The report covers both ACL 2006 and ACL doesn't it @MalcSB ?
 

SBS

Active Member
  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #15
Nick said:
Some of the small businesses who have been fucked over is criminal.

AV company owed £120k

Interesingly CCC owed over £250k.
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More taxpayer cash down the drain. Maton reading the room well
 

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Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #16
Yeah it has both.

All of the creditors are about page 105.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #17
Owed Otium Entertainment Group £480, that'll put a dent in Robins' transfer warchest
 
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SBT

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  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #18
Nick said:
What do they owe Sport England for?
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Is that the Covid bailout from the govt?
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #19
It's no wonder nobody would touch the pitch, owed a few pitch related companies money.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #20
Even a small cabling company, 10k owed.

That's massive for small 1 man band type contractors.
 
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TomRad85

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  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #21
SBS said:
More taxpayer cash down the drain. Maton reading the room well
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Absolute fucking bellend that bloke

Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk
 
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Frostie

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  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #22
I'm sure Wasps fans will still say it's not the club's fault. Bloody Covid...
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #23
Assume the money owed to CCC is unpaid business rates, rateable value for the Arena is £650k
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #24
Council scab waste firm Tom White Waste owed £11k too
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #25
fernandopartridge said:
Assume the money owed to CCC is unpaid business rates, rateable value for the Arena is £650k
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Yet Maton is still trying to get them to shag him.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #26
They claim the Pandemic meant loss of revenue from CCFC games. Weren't we at St Andrews?

Can't remember, seems ages ago.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #27
Nick said:
They claim the Pandemic meant loss of revenue from CCFC games. Weren't we at St Andrews?

Can't remember, seems ages ago.
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Yes we were
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #28
fernandopartridge said:
Yes we were
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What income were they planning on from CCFC games during the pandemic then?
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #29
The sheer number of unsecured creditors is massive, the directors should be in trouble really as it is obvious they were insolvent.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #30
fernandopartridge said:
The sheer number of unsecured creditors is massive, the directors should be in trouble really as it is obvious they were insolvent.
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It's shocking, isn't it?

When it's multi-billion pound banks there isn't much sympathy but so many are just local businesses. How were they still taking services on tick when they owed so much?
 
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The Philosopher

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  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #31
Page 24 where “COVID had a significant impact” is seemingly an obvious point. Just a mark in the sand here with the statement made by the RugbyPL - something like “Wasps can appeal if they can show the financial problems we’re down to exceptional circumstances (such as COVID)
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #32
What are all the things for a penny?
 

Philosoraptor

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #33

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CCC as creditors.

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Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #34
The Philosopher said:
Page 24 where “COVID had a significant impact” is seemingly an obvious point. Just a mark in the sand here with the statement made by the RugbyPL - something like “Wasps can appeal if they can show the financial problems we’re down to exceptional circumstances (such as COVID)
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The Covid-19 pandemic had a significant impact on the Group both as a result of cancelled CCFC and WRFC games and associated lost revenues but also reduced revenue from cancelled conferences and events and the closure of the hotel and casino during government-imposed lockdowns.
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Philosoraptor

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  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #35
They owe CCC £250,000+
 
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