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cc84cov · May 9, 2022

SlowerThanPlatt said:
No the Rolls Royce

Who Tug Boat Bidwell ? What’s he been doing ? He’s only been here 2 min into a 7 year contract

cc84cov · May 9, 2022

@SlowerThanPlatt Kane needs to go he’s got shit hair he can’t be near the shirt

PVA · May 10, 2022

I said I wasn't happy with the Kane signing when he joined and got slated and been totally underwhelmed by him. You'd think he's David Beckham the way some went on about his crossing.

Dabo is much better. Eccles probably is too

cc84cov · May 10, 2022

PVA said:
I said I wasn't happy with the Kane signing when he joined and got slated and been totally underwhelmed by him. You'd think he's David Beckham the way some went on about his crossing.

Dabo is much better. Eccles probably is too

Shit hair and smiles too much I mean wtf has he got to be so happy about to be smiling that much it’s not normal

SlowerThanPlatt · May 10, 2022

cc84cov said:
Shit hair and smiles too much I mean wtf has he got to be so happy about to be smiling that much it’s not normal

Okay

cov donkey kick · May 13, 2022

If he has the attitude people reckon and the arrogance he showed at QPR can't imagine robins and more likely ADI will be sorting him out as the won't want a bad egg disrupting the Great spirit in the squad.

Hobo · May 13, 2022

There is some real creative thinking on here People dream stuff up and convince themselves it is true.

Some people obviously have too much spare time and nothing to fill it with, except delusional fantasies.

Brighton Sky Blue · May 13, 2022

cov donkey kick said:
If he has the attitude people reckon and the arrogance he showed at QPR can't imagine robins and more likely ADI will be sorting him out as the won't want a bad egg disrupting the Great spirit in the squad.

But we knew that when we signed him? Unless the plan all along was to sell him for a quick buck

cov donkey kick · May 13, 2022

Brighton Sky Blue said:
But we knew that when we signed him? Unless the plan all along was to sell him for a quick buck

Yes If that proves to be case ,I think he will be staying.

KenilworthSkyBlue · May 13, 2022

PVA said:
I said I wasn't happy with the Kane signing when he joined and got slated and been totally underwhelmed by him. You'd think he's David Beckham the way some went on about his crossing.

Dabo is much better. Eccles probably is too

He was likely never brought in as a long term option. The fact he was put on a 2-year contract pretty much proves that.

Management teams sometimes have to take a chance on lesser quality players just to fulfil a role and act as a stopgap for a year or two - giving them time to either identify someone new, or to allow a player such as Eccles to perhaps grow into the role and stake their claim.

Old Warwickshire lad · May 13, 2022

Replace Kane and the roller for me. Neither is good enough for us.

Grendel · Jul 24, 2022

PVA said:
I said I wasn't happy with the Kane signing when he joined and got slated and been totally underwhelmed by him. You'd think he's David Beckham the way some went on about his crossing.

Dabo is much better. Eccles probably is too

Kane has a better end product than Dabo

Terry_dactyl · Jul 24, 2022

Grendel said:
Kane has a better end product than Dabo

Does he? I’d say it’s marginal.
Granted First few games Kane looked like Beckham but then his crossing became woeful.
Dabo, when fit, is the better player. I think he just hasn’t really had a sustained period of being injury free since we got in the championship.
Which of course is a problem in itself…

duffer · Jul 24, 2022

Hobo said:
There is some real creative thinking on here People dream stuff up and convince themselves it is true.

Some people obviously have too much spare time and nothing to fill it with, except delusional fantasies.

Please don't take away my fantasies, mate. At my age it's all I've got left.

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Jul 24, 2022

Terry_dactyl said:
Does he? I’d say it’s marginal.
Granted First few games Kane looked like Beckham but then his crossing became woeful.
Dabo, when fit, is the better player. I think he just hasn’t really had a sustained period of being injury free since we got in the championship.
Which of course is a problem in itself…

The stats show that Dabo has an extremely poor level of end product. 5 assists and 1 goal in over 100 games for us. Only 2 assists and no goals in almost 60 games in the championship.

Kane had a good spell at the start but tanked by the end. Unless Dabo kicks on this season it won't be long before we should look to replace both of them.

Sick Boy · Jul 24, 2022

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
The stats show that Dabo has an extremely poor level of end product. 5 assists and 1 goal in over 100 games.

Kane had a good spell at the start but tanked by the end. Unless Dabo kicks on this season it won't be long before we should look to replace both of them.

Dabo was fantastic in League one but let’s be honest, if we’re serious about progressing neither of them are the answer.

PVA · Jul 24, 2022

It's not just about goals and assists though.

We look a far better team with Dabo than Kane. Dabo just suits the way we play much better

Kilclines curly mullet · Jul 24, 2022

Personally I would replace both Kane and Dabo.
if we are to push for play offs neither are good enough

Grendel · Jul 24, 2022

Sick Boy said:
Dabo was fantastic in League one but let’s be honest, if we’re serious about progressing neither of them are the answer.

His fitness is also a big issue

Torquay Sky Blue · Jul 24, 2022

Grendel said:
His fitness is also a big issue

Agree. Dabo is a low end championship player. He's not top 6

Terry_dactyl · Jul 24, 2022

Grendel said:
His fitness is also a big issue

I genuinely think this is his biggest issue, not his ability. Another injury hit season and i think that could be him done with us.

South West Sky Blue · Jul 24, 2022

Dabo was one of only a few from the title winning league that I had no concerns about stepping up a division.
I’m underwhelmed since then, but injuries have stopped him having a run of games whilst fit to perform.
Kane is a competent player at this level, but nothing more. Dabo is still the better player (in my opinion), but his form was poor last year at times so he didn’t deserve to start ahead of Kane.
Just need to keep Dabo fit - not easy.

Sick Boy · Jul 24, 2022

South West Sky Blue said:
Dabo was one of only a few from the title winning league that I had no concerns about stepping up a division.
I’m underwhelmed since then, but injuries have stopped him having a run of games whilst fit to perform.
Kane is a competent player at this level, but nothing more. Dabo is still the better player (in my opinion), but his form was poor last year at times so he didn’t deserve to start ahead of Kane.
Just need to keep Dabo fit - not easy.

The step up from top of league one to a good consistent upper first half of the Championship is pretty big.
I still consider him one of my favourite players but the team’s progression comes first.

Sky Blue Harry H · Jul 24, 2022

Grendel said:
Kane has a better end product than Dabo

Bright has more skill than O'Hare, but you wouldn't swap them.

Grendel · Jul 24, 2022

Sky Blue Harry H said:
Bright has more skill than O'Hare, but you wouldn't swap them.

Bit silly as Kane is more likely to play and be fit than Dabo and there’s no evidence bright has any skill at this level

KenilworthSkyBlue · Jul 24, 2022

Terry_dactyl said:
Does he? I’d say it’s marginal.
Granted First few games Kane looked like Beckham but then his crossing became woeful.
Dabo, when fit, is the better player. I think he just hasn’t really had a sustained period of being injury free since we got in the championship.
Which of course is a problem in itself…

Yeah due to his lack of pace or ability to take players on he developed a habit of crossing really deep, which is incredibly easy to defend against if you don't have forwards with an arial presence - which we don't.

Evo1883 · Jul 24, 2022

Grendel said:
Kane has a better end product than Dabo

Towards the end of the season that certainly wasn't the case , dabo was the far better player

And ALWAYS the better defender

Evo1883 · Jul 24, 2022

Dabos performance at forest shows he is clearly a championship wing back , he marked Spence out the game and terrorised them going forward .

Consistently needed but that comes with a run of games

Esoterica · Jul 24, 2022

We play a quick (counter) attacking style, with focus on getting the ball forward with the purpose of Gyokeres pulling into a channel and getting 1 on 1 with a defender. O'Hare presses and wins the ball back high up the pitch, Hamer plays progressive passes very quickly or carries the ball himself at pace, Sheaf plays beautiful and accurate longer balls into feet or space. It's asking an awful lot of wingbacks to be regularly involved in goals and assists like that.

Wingbacks get more goals and assists in teams that play possession football with a slower build up, where they have time to get to the back post or overlap to the byline where there will be bodies in the box to aim at. Dabo could do more in terms of arriving late to the box but he needs an injury free season where he can play every week and get the match fitness to get up and down for 90 minutes. Kane just doesn't have the attributes, or natural tendencies, that quite suit our style.

Tea & Busquets · Jul 24, 2022

i’d keep dabo around as backup but if we want to progress we need to sign better players for example Ryan Fredericks.

Covkid1968# · Jul 24, 2022

Esoterica said:
We play a quick (counter) attacking style, with focus on getting the ball forward with the purpose of Gyokeres pulling into a channel and getting 1 on 1 with a defender. O'Hare presses and wins the ball back high up the pitch, Hamer plays progressive passes very quickly or carries the ball himself at pace, Sheaf plays beautiful and accurate longer balls into feet or space.

I’m going to whisper this in the ear of Mrs CK1968 whilst making mad passionate love to her….this has the potential to take our sex life to the next level. Thank you

Esoterica · Jul 24, 2022

Covkid1968# said:
I’m going to whisper this in the ear of Mrs CK1968 whilst making mad passionate love to her….this has the potential to take our sex life to the next level. Thank you

I think most of our wives would find that next level with talk of Dabo assisting more often by regularly getting round the back.

Skybluedownunder · Jul 24, 2022

Kilclines curly mullet said:
Personally I would replace both Kane and Dabo.
if we are to push for play offs neither are good enough

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Skybluedownunder · Jul 24, 2022

Torquay Sky Blue said:
Agree. Dabo is a low end championship player. He's not top 6

Neither are we. 3 games in if we lose everyone will be saying relegation. We beat a couple of teams in friendlies who are all in leagues lower than us except Forest and people saying it’s Wembley here we come

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Skybluedownunder · Jul 24, 2022

I swear this thread is called Waghorn but all I see is talk about Kane vs Dabo

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