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Match Thread vs Cardiff (A) 19/09/23 (7 Viewers)

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shmmeee

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  • Sep 20, 2023
  • #1,646
Sky Blue Pete said:
Hope you eat those words
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If Wright becomes a player it would be the greatest turnout in my city supporting career. The guy is Kevin Kyle/ Bakayoko level and he’s our all time record signing. I’m fucking fuming mate. Once in a lifetime chance to move the club forward and Robins and the recruitment team have acted like a fucking lottery winner pissing it up the wall at the first opportunity. Terrible window.
 
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Macca

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  • Sep 20, 2023
  • #1,647
junglej13 said:
The lad needs a rocket up his arse. Sick of hearing about how 'talented' he is. His career will amount to nothing I've little doubt. History says he doesn't manage more than 15 games a season. Cannot recall when a game has been in the balance where he has created or scored a goal. His impact on the outcome of a game is non existent. Have always thought we can probably do better than Allen if the club is to progress, but would take Allen every day of the week ahead of Palmer. Nearly everyone of Allen's goals or assists last year broke the deadlock in a tight game. I don't even get out of my seat when Palmer is about to shoot. Tonight yet another example - guilt edge chance he should have scored.
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The most basic requirement for a 26 year old professional footballer is to be fit enough to play 90 mins a week. This isn’t a 37 year old veteran here
 
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Matt smith

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  • Sep 20, 2023
  • #1,648
pusbccfc said:
I am annoyed we didn't replace Hamer but you aren't suggesting Doug is pocketing the money when we've spent £20m this summer, surely?

I doubt he'll be wanting Robins to spend money in January based on his signings this summer.
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If you don’t trust your manager, you have to get rid of him
 

Boicey

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  • Sep 20, 2023
  • #1,649
TomRad85 said:
What did he say?

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Have a look at the interview video thread. Basically lots of emphasis on their third goal and Tatsu messing up. No need to name and shame with such a poor team performance. A team Robins put together that was never going to deliver.
 

Matt smith

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  • Sep 20, 2023
  • #1,650
shmmeee said:
If Wright becomes a player it would be the greatest turnout in my city supporting career. The guy is Kevin Kyle/ Bakayoko level and he’s our all time record signing. I’m fucking fuming mate. Once in a lifetime chance to move the club forward and Robins and the recruitment team have acted like a fucking lottery winner pissing it up the wall at the first opportunity. Terrible window.
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This^

Absolutely shocking window

feel like we’re in a relegation scrap
 

hill83

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  • Sep 20, 2023
  • #1,651
shmmeee said:
If Wright becomes a player it would be the greatest turnout in my city supporting career. The guy is Kevin Kyle/ Bakayoko level and he’s our all time record signing. I’m fucking fuming mate. Once in a lifetime chance to move the club forward and Robins and the recruitment team have acted like a fucking lottery winner pissing it up the wall at the first opportunity. Terrible window.
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But apart from that
 
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shmmeee

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  • Sep 20, 2023
  • #1,652
Not even joking. If I were Doug I’d put a £2m limit on any future signings.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 20, 2023
  • #1,653
shmmeee said:
If Wright becomes a player it would be the greatest turnout in my city supporting career. The guy is Kevin Kyle/ Bakayoko level and he’s our all time record signing. I’m fucking fuming mate. Once in a lifetime chance to move the club forward and Robins and the recruitment team have acted like a fucking lottery winner pissing it up the wall at the first opportunity. Terrible window.
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In Gyokeres and Hamer you had two £1m signings turned into elite players for this level over several seasons. I don’t really understand why we deviated from that just because there was an 8 figure sum in our account
 
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TomRad85

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  • Sep 20, 2023
  • #1,654
shmmeee said:
Not even joking. If I were Doug I’d put a £2m limit on any future signings.
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He spent around that on Sakamoto and doesn't even know how best to use him. Also on Thomas who he decided to drop after one bad game and now has no idea what the best defence is. Its all adding up tbf mate, he needs a rethink.

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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Sep 20, 2023
  • #1,655
Brighton Sky Blue said:
In Gyokeres and Hamer you had two £1m signings turned into elite players for this level over several seasons. I don’t really understand why we deviated from that just because there was an 8 figure sum in our account
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I’d imagine with Doug’s 5 year plans he doesn’t want development players he wants ready made players for this level.

unfortunately he’s been duped into thinking Haji Wright is a £7m player

at least MvE looks a player
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 20, 2023
  • #1,656
And for all the Palmer slagging off, at least he’s the one man in the side who can make a pass without taking out a fucking full page ad in the telegraph telling everyone where it’s going. But yeah let’s get Jamie Allen in for a midfield of players who can pass five yard in front of them.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 20, 2023
  • #1,657
Finham said:
I said it at the time we signed him but I think the consensus was that the Turkish League was about on a par with The Championship, if not slightly better. Looks laughable now. Still hope he can come good-or better: he has attributes that we are not using very well and his head seems to have dropped. Lets hope MR can get him playing. We need to get the best out of him.
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…as does MR, otherwise he’s going to have King asking some uncomfortable questions.
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 20, 2023
  • #1,658
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
I’d imagine with Doug’s 5 year plans he doesn’t want development players he wants ready made players for this level.

unfortunately he’s been duped into thinking Haji Wright is a £7m player

at least MvE looks a player
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Within ten mins of the Wright rumours we had seen his highlights, read what fans think about him, seen his record, etc. There was nothing to indicate he was a player. The only reason to sign him is you think you see something no one else does. But that’s not a £7.7m signing. That’s a £1m gamble.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Sep 20, 2023
  • #1,659
Earlsdon-Loyal-Blue said:
Whoever thought that is a pleb. There’s so many shit strikers that have come from the Turkish leagues, and thus shit strikers go to the Turkish League to become prolific!

Sadly you’re right. He’s 25 years old (which usually suggests you’re signing the near finished product), we can’t afford to right him off for a season or two - we may never get any money back on him. He’s on big money and we can’t write off £8M after 7 or 8 games.

That said, Wright looks shite and a massive waste of money. We could have had 4 youngerproven EFL strikers, not some myth from the Turkish League. At least Simms is 22 and has a couple of years to be improved and make the near finished article.

What the fuck were the recruitment team doing?!
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Robins would have have sanctioned the signing as well, it’s not like he’s being held hostage.
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 20, 2023
  • #1,660
Can’t help but feel rookie football club owner got taken to the cleaners on purchases. Different matter when selling and you know what you’ve got. But even then someone should be stepping in and saying you’re getting rinsed.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 20, 2023
  • #1,661
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
I’d imagine with Doug’s 5 year plans he doesn’t want development players he wants ready made players for this level.

unfortunately he’s been duped into thinking Haji Wright is a £7m player

at least MvE looks a player
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Development players who clearly have something but need polishing versus expensive players who won’t significantly improve.
 
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Boicey

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  • Sep 20, 2023
  • #1,662
Simms needs to come in for Wright now. And Kitching for Fadz. Allen will likely come in as well.
He will keep picking Palmer. he just has a complete favourites block.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Sep 20, 2023
  • #1,663
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
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Careful what you wish for eh ESB?

“I want a new recruitment team”

 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 20, 2023
  • #1,664
shmmeee said:
Can’t help but feel rookie football club owner got taken to the cleaners on purchases. Different matter when selling and you know what you’ve got. But even then someone should be stepping in and saying you’re getting rinsed.
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Clubs knew we’d received big fees and inflated their prices. But it takes nous to know which ones are bluffing and which can be told to sod off.
 

junglej13

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  • Sep 20, 2023
  • #1,665
Saddlebrains said:
We were after a player from abroad.

For one reason or another Robins abandoned that and went all in on Kitching. Not even the recruitment geezer or Doug, it was Robins call. Which is mind boggling from a man whos done so well for us
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I'd imagine the reason he abandoned it was because the player wasn't available and suspect they will try again in Jan. Not signing another midfielder and signing Kitching are two different things. We've paid over the odds for Kitching as Barnsley were in a strong position (new contract and didn't need to sell) but Robins wanted him all summer. He will be a good signing I think. When the midfield target wasn't a goer we should have looked for a loan I feel. Losing Sheaf is a disaster.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Sep 20, 2023
  • #1,666
Am I the only one that goals aside thinks Simms looks the best of the three football talent wise. It’s a low bar mind.
 
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coop

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  • Sep 20, 2023
  • #1,667
Boicey said:
Have a look at the interview video thread. Basically lots of emphasis on their third goal and Tatsu messing up. No need to name and shame with such a poor team performance. A team Robins put together that was never going to deliver.
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Said same thing he was the only player to get any sort of blame probably because he's the easiest target a bit like when he had ago about Yari.Time for Robins to make some changes to this team.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Sep 20, 2023
  • #1,668
junglej13 said:
I'd imagine the reason he abandoned it was because the player wasn't available and suspect they will try again in Jan. Not signing another midfielder and signing Kitching are two different things. We've paid over the odds for Kitching as Barnsley were in a strong position (new contract and didn't need to sell) but Robins wanted him all summer. He will be a good signing I think. When the midfield target wasn't a goer we should have looked for a loan I feel. Losing Sheaf is a disaster.
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They’re not though. Time is finite. Robins, King, et al only have so many hours in the day. Kitching should never have been a priority. We should have seen the prices we were being quoted and gone to the loan market.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 20, 2023
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junglej13 said:
I'd imagine the reason he abandoned it was because the player wasn't available and suspect they will try again in Jan. Not signing another midfielder and signing Kitching are two different things. We've paid over the odds for Kitching as Barnsley were in a strong position (new contract and didn't need to sell) but Robins wanted him all summer. He will be a good signing I think. When the midfield target wasn't a goer we should have looked for a loan I feel. Losing Sheaf is a disaster.
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We do know though that O’Brien went to the club prepared to pay the more of his wages. So in going full Kitching we then couldn’t compete on those wages.
 
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Boicey

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  • Sep 20, 2023
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How far are we from ‘you don’t know what you’re doing’?
Losing to Huddersfield and bringing a defender on in the last 10 mins might test it.
 

hill83

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  • Sep 20, 2023
  • #1,671
shmmeee said:
Am I the only one that goals aside thinks Simms looks the best of the three football talent wise. It’s a low bar mind.
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I genuinely think he'll come good given a decent run in the side.
 
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WestEndAgro

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  • Sep 20, 2023
  • #1,672
Bad day at the office, even the Sky Blue Army were off it.
Lackluster from start to finish.
Difficult watch and not many positives.
Shout out to Palmer who was atrocious, comfortably our worst performer by a mile.
When is he going to deliver.
Hadji Wright looks absolutely miles of it atm.
Wish I'd stayed at home.
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 20, 2023
  • #1,673
Boicey said:
How far are we from ‘you don’t know what you’re doing’?
Losing to Huddersfield and bringing a defender on in the last 10 mins might test it.
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Think we might get “what a waste of money” first.
 

TomRad85

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  • Sep 20, 2023
  • #1,674
Boicey said:
Have a look at the interview video thread. Basically lots of emphasis on their third goal and Tatsu messing up. No need to name and shame with such a poor team performance. A team Robins put together that was never going to deliver.
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I find it staggering he'd name Sakamoto after what I've just watched. Poor bloke must be wondering why he came here.

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Sick Boy

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  • Sep 20, 2023
  • #1,675
Boicey said:
How far are we from ‘you don’t know what you’re doing’?
Losing to Huddersfield and bringing a defender on in the last 10 mins might test it.
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The fans will be a good few games away still but not sure King will be, he isn’t going to be as sentimental and will expect results.
 

Tommo1993

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  • Sep 20, 2023
  • #1,676
The second tier of English football is a step up from the Turkish pub league. Imagine my shock.

If B-Tec Baka starts with Palmer on Monday, then I may not bother turning up.
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 20, 2023
  • #1,677
Haji Wrong
 
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hill83

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  • Sep 20, 2023
  • #1,678
TomRad85 said:
I find it staggering he'd name Sakamoto after what I've just watched. Poor bloke must be wondering why he came here.

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At fault for 2 goals. Don't think Robins should have called him out though to be honest.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 20, 2023
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TomRad85 said:
I find it staggering he'd name Sakamoto after what I've just watched. Poor bloke must be wondering why he came here.

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He sees Palmer play crap and get rewarded with a start, then is asked to play out of position with defensive responsibilities he isn’t used to dealing with. Also sees Thomas get dropped after one bad game while McF who has been poor for several is also getting selected.

This sort of thing undermines the manager’s credibility with new players.
 
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Matt smith

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  • Sep 20, 2023
  • #1,680
shmmeee said:
People keep banging on about the midfield but whatever we got fucked over. It happens. Understandable.

We approached Haji Wright before the playoff final, Simms was one of our first signings, and we have a gaping hole up front. At least in midfield we can hope something is to come. What we’ve done up front is fucking criminal.
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Can you honestly see him coming good?
 
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