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Manchester_sky_blue

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  • Jul 1, 2024
  • #281
SeaSeeEffCee said:
I notice that Binks specifically name-dropped working with Viveash in his post-signing interview a week ago. Doesn't suggest to me that it was widely known he was leaving.
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Purely guesswork on my part but I wonder if the shake up started ages ago with the two new coaches being recruited and the plan was for Adi to stay but in a different role, now he's thought better of it or had a better offer and decided to leave
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jul 1, 2024
  • #282
The structure is entirely changed now though isn’t it - Robins has effectively became a head coach.

we have a head of recruitment in Jamie Johnson and Dean Austin as Director of Football. Maybe it’s a case of just moving into a newer role he wasn’t comfortable with
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 1, 2024
  • #283
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
The structure is entirely changed now though isn’t it - Robins has effectively became a head coach.

we have a head of recruitment in Jamie Johnson and Dean Austin as Director of Football. Maybe it’s a case of just moving into a newer role he wasn’t comfortable with
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Call me crazy but maybe don’t fuck about with the only thing that’s got you from L2 to the verge of the PL.
 
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Matt smith

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  • Jul 1, 2024
  • #284
shmmeee said:
Call me crazy but maybe don’t fuck about with the only thing that’s got you from L2 to the verge of the PL.
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Nothing crazy about it mate
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 1, 2024
  • #285
Matt smith said:
Nothing crazy about it mate
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Genuinely worried by this. Robins and Viveash have been a team and Adi gets name dropped by players way more than anyone else. Hope Doug isn’t playing silly buggers in the name of instant success.
 
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Matt smith

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  • Jul 1, 2024
  • #286
shmmeee said:
Genuinely worried by this. Robins and Viveash have been a team and Adi gets name dropped by players way more than anyone else. Hope Doug isn’t playing silly buggers in the name of instant success.
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We’ll wait and see, but it’s worrying I agree. He’s been robins right hand man for seven years and their partnership has got us to where we are.

robins is the manager and adi I imagine was the brains on the grass in conducting the sessions

is robins going to be doing both roles now?
a good start is imperative as if it wasn’t already
 
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Ibby

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  • Jul 1, 2024
  • #287
No good this news.
 

Diogenes

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  • Jul 1, 2024
  • #288
shmmeee said:
Call me crazy but maybe don’t fuck about with the only thing that’s got you from L2 to the verge of the PL.
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Nothing crazy about it. To succeed you need to constantly evolve and improve. If (and it's a huge IF) this move improves the management/coaching team then so be it.

Just a shame he didn't get a send off in the last game he deserves a proper tribute.
 
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WestEndAgro

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  • Jul 1, 2024
  • #289
This isn't going to be a knee jerk reaction, it's obviously been planned for a while, perfect day for it to be announced.
New season, new players, new coach,let's crack on
PUSB
 
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Hobo

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  • Jul 1, 2024
  • #290
shmmeee said:
OK now I’m worried. Strange timing. Strange comms. And probably the most influential member of staff. Not good at all on the face of it.
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Strange timing? It's the first day back pre season. It's obviously not a decision made today or even in the last couple of weeks. Things move on.
 
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BlueSkiesForever

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  • Jul 1, 2024
  • #291
shmmeee said:
Call me crazy but maybe don’t fuck about with the only thing that’s got you from L2 to the verge of the PL.
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I agree with you and I like the Adi/Robins combo, but just to play devil’s advocate, is it the only thing that’s got us from L2 to here? Not saying it isn’t but I’m not on the inside so I can’t say if Adi is the only thing that’s got us this far, maybe it’s been more Robins than Adi? Or other staff members that have contributed?

Not saying I disagree with you, I’m just trying to see it in a positive light, albeit I feel very pessimistic about the whole thing.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 1, 2024
  • #292
Hobo said:
Strange timing? It's the first day back pre season. It's obviously not a decision made today or even in the last couple of weeks. Things move on.
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Why go now and not at the end of the season when all the goodbyes are happening?

Well see but it smells off to me.
 
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wingy

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  • Jul 1, 2024
  • #293
shmmeee said:
Call me crazy but maybe don’t fuck about with the only thing that’s got you from L2 to the verge of the PL.
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Infers that it was Andy's loyalty to the old both in terms of methodology and possibly crew does it not?
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Jul 1, 2024
  • #294
shmmeee said:
Why go now and not at the end of the season when all the goodbyes are happening?

Well see but it smells off to me.
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Ah the phantom doom mongerer has logged on for the day
 
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Sbarcher

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  • Jul 1, 2024
  • #295
Doesn't his partner also work for the club? Interesting to know if she has also gone.
 

AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Jul 1, 2024
  • #296
Sbarcher said:
Doesn't his partner also work for the club? Interesting to know if she has also gone.
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ITKs source gone
 

stay_up_skyblues

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  • Jul 1, 2024
  • #297
Thanks for the service Adi. I would like to place on record my appreciation for your time and effort during your seven years with the club. I wish you all the best in your future endeavours.

George, welcome back. You have one match which we will need to win by three, failing which you shall be scapegoated.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jul 1, 2024
  • #298
Where's Mark? Not seen him in any of the photos today
 
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Macca1987

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  • Jul 1, 2024
  • #299
With Lawrence it was announced where he was going and a lot of plaudits and good luck to him. Worrying this announcement has been so low key for Adi and CCFC
 
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Jul 1, 2024
  • #300
Something else that's different this season, No Photos of Mark Robins shaking hands and welcoming New players and Coaching Staff.

Perhaps doesn't want someone lurking in the bushes.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jul 1, 2024
  • #301
Evo1883 said:
Where's Mark? Not seen him in any of the photos today
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Mark Twain?
 

Hobo

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  • Jul 1, 2024
  • #302
shmmeee said:
Why go now and not at the end of the season when all the goodbyes are happening?

Well see but it smells off to me.
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Perhaps either Viveash, the Club or both didnt want to announce it at the end of the season?
Club statements are carefully thought out and made with legal stuff in mind around contracts.

It did say after a 'post season review.'

Time will tell, but it is not that unusual at all. Coventry Rugby got ride of DOR Rowland Winter who had really turned the club around on and off the pitch. He was replaced by Alex Rae who has progressed the club even more.
 

Evo1883

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  • Jul 1, 2024
  • #303
Ccfcisparks said:
Mark Twain?
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jul 1, 2024
  • #304
shmmeee said:
Call me crazy but maybe don’t fuck about with the only thing that’s got you from L2 to the verge of the PL.
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That’s fine - but it appears we’re starting to act like elite clubs, we’re trying to maximise the performance of our currently players.

if it’s true Vivaesh’s methods don’t sit well with our newer players - it may be time to move on. The methods needed in league two and one are massively different to those to get to and stay in the prem.

I’d hazard a guess that we’ve starting going down an avenue that most prem sides and promoted sides have in place
 
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rexo87

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 1, 2024
  • #305
Evo1883 said:
Where's Mark? Not seen him in any of the photos today
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Been wondering this as well - bit strange
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 1, 2024
  • #306
shmmeee said:
OK now I’m worried. Strange timing. Strange comms. And probably the most influential member of staff. Not good at all on the face of it.
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We can't say that at the moment. The statement didn't make it sound like the departure was a decision Adi made. As I said this was probably decided back in May and Adi knew not long after the season finished. We can only judge the impact during the coming season.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 1, 2024
  • #307
Hobo said:
Club statements are carefully thought out
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Their usual standard of grammar and spelling suggests otherwise.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jul 1, 2024
  • #308
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
That’s fine - but it appears we’re starting to act like elite clubs, we’re trying to maximise the performance of our currently players.

if it’s true Vivaesh’s methods don’t sit well with our newer players - it may be time to move on. The methods needed in league two and one are massively different to those to get to and stay in the prem.

I’d hazard a guess that we’ve starting going down an avenue that most prem sides and promoted sides have in place
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Boeteng doesn't inspire me , coached aston villa u23s for 2 years and was Ghana assistant manager .

Deserves his chance

He other guy has coached at 3 championship clubs .

If we are to hire then surely we look to hire up not sideways
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 1, 2024
  • #309
Evo1883 said:
Boeteng doesn't inspire me , coached aston villa u23s for 2 years and was Ghana assistant manager .

Deserves his chance

He other guy has coached at 3 championship clubs .

If we are to hire then surely we look to hire up not sideways
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No problem with hiring coaches on their way up. We could maybe do with some Championship experience too though.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jul 1, 2024
  • #310
Deleted member 5849 said:
No problem with hiring coaches on their way up. We could maybe do with some Championship experience too though.
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To be fair I've misread Carr, he coached at wolves as development coach and Ireland women's assistant .

That appointment pleases me more
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 1, 2024
  • #311
Evo1883 said:
Boeteng doesn't inspire me , coached aston villa u23s for 2 years and was Ghana assistant manager .

Deserves his chance

He other guy has coached at 3 championship clubs .

If we are to hire then surely we look to hire up not sideways
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I think regardless of the appointments King is now wanting a real promotion shot and Robins will be told to get a team both on and off the field to deliver -- or else
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jul 1, 2024
  • #312
Evo1883 said:
Boeteng doesn't inspire me , coached aston villa u23s for 2 years and was Ghana assistant manager .

Deserves his chance

He other guy has coached at 3 championship clubs .

If we are to hire then surely we look to hire up not sideways
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I mean Kieran McKenna was coaching Man Utd’s u23s when he went to Ipswich

the coaches are not supposed to inspire the fans - they’re supposed to coach the players, his ideas maybe that something different to getting the best out of players.

if Vivaesh’s methods are no longer working - then it’s time you move on
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jul 1, 2024
  • #313
Grendel said:
I think regardless of the appointments King is now wanting a real promotion shot and Robins will be told to get a team both on and off the field to deliver -- or else
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Hopefully king gets the players required in then
 

Evo1883

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  • Jul 1, 2024
  • #314
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
I mean Kieran McKenna was coaching Man Utd’s u23s when he went to Ipswich

the coaches are not supposed to inspire the fans - they’re supposed to coach the players, his ideas maybe that something different to getting the best out of players.

if Vivaesh’s methods are no longer working - then it’s time you move on
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Good point
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 1, 2024
  • #315
It's always hard to accept change at a club that's relied so heavily on close bonds forged over a period of sustained success and growth .
 
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