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  • Start date Jun 20, 2024
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wingy

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  • Tuesday at 8:13 PM
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Their alleged joke league seems to back that up if he goes for £65 M.
 

Mcbean

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  • Tuesday at 8:23 PM
  • #1,122
WE NEED THE MONEY
 

JimmyHillsbeard

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  • Tuesday at 10:18 PM
  • #1,123
PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
They played a part in his development so they are
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Then why don’t Swansea?
 

PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Tuesday at 10:59 PM
  • #1,124
JimmyHillsbeard said:
Then why don’t Swansea?
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Didn’t feature enough either that or he was too old for Swansea to be considered as a part of his development as a youngster

edit: Fair Distribution of Benefits: By ensuring that clubs are compensated for their role in a player's development, the system promotes a more equitable distribution of benefits within the football industry, rather than solely benefiting the club that signs the player.
- Swansea certainly didnt play a role in his development
 

shmmeee

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  • Tuesday at 11:38 PM
  • #1,125
Anyone who can be arsed can enter all his details here and it gives you the payments due:

Training rewards calculator

calculatorprdwestg001web.z6.web.core.windows.net
 

shmmeee

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  • Tuesday at 11:39 PM
  • #1,126
And loan transfers count it seems. Which would suggest we are due some money back as we had him the season of his 23rd birthday I think.
 
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Specs WT-R75

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  • Wednesday at 9:45 AM
  • #1,127
JimmyHillsbeard said:
I don’t get this at all. He was only on loan at St. Pauli ( from Brighton) there’s no way they are entitled to £120k
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That's the difference between the FIFA system and the EPPP in the prem. Fifa understand that any team that played a part in a players early development is entitled to some of the benefit of their success. You could very much argue that players that cut their teeth in the lower leagues in England should benefit the club on loan if they go on to be a success.

JimmyHillsbeard said:
Then why don’t Swansea?
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I entered the approximated details into an automated calculator on transfermarkt - seems to suggest Swansea and us are not entitled to anything if we (and Swansea) were then it would be in the region of €60k Euros as he was 23 when we signed him permanent...
 

PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Wednesday at 10:28 AM
  • #1,128
shmmeee said:
And loan transfers count it seems. Which would suggest we are due some money back as we had him the season of his 23rd birthday I think.
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Just missed out on getting a small fee for Hamer, but what about O’hare and McCallum do we get anything for them if say they move?
 
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Specs WT-R75

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  • Wednesday at 10:44 AM
  • #1,129
PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
Just missed out on getting a small fee for Hamer, but what about O’hare and McCallum do we get anything for them if say they move?
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There are two different things at play here. Google EPPP (Elite Player Performance Plan) and FIFA Solidarity Payments. The FIFA scheme only operates for international transfers (eg Coventry > Sporting), but does not apply to domestic transfers (Coventry > Sheffield United). for domestic transfers the EPPP system applies, and we don't get anything for Hamer because he left us when he was over the applicable age, and similarly McCallum is now also over 24. However for an international transfer we would get some money for Sam McCallum, but nothing for Gus. Looks like we signed him the year he turned 23 as well... same as Vik.

We would get a some money if James Maddison moved abroad for a nice fee... Eg 25m euros:

ClubSolidary contribution
Leicester City€250k
Norwich City€125k
Aberdeen FC€125k
Coventry City€750k

All the shit you see online about how Norwich made him the player he was... he played one full season for them!
 
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Calista

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  • Thursday at 7:23 PM
  • #1,130
[From London Evening Standard]
Gyokeres now set to stay at Sporting

There has been yet another twist in the meandering saga of Viktor Gyokeres’ future. Just when Arsenal seemed to be closing in on a deal for the prolific Sporting CP striker, a new spanner has been thrown in the works.
In a new interview, the player’s uncle has said he is now planning to stay in Lisbon following a family meeting.
Asked whether Viktor would be happy to stay at Sporting, his Uncle said: “Yes, we think so.
“Yesterday at dinner we decided that he has to stay.”
Gyokeres himself has given far less away in his own interviews. Asked for an update on his future this week, he simply said: “Hopefully you can expect I keep improving and score goals."
Manchester United are also interested in the player and may look to intercept Arsenal’s move for his signature.
 
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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Thursday at 7:31 PM
  • #1,131
Calista said:
[From London Evening Standard]
Gyokeres now set to stay at Sporting

There has been yet another twist in the meandering saga of Viktor Gyokeres’ future. Just when Arsenal seemed to be closing in on a deal for the prolific Sporting CP striker, a new spanner has been thrown in the works.
In a new interview, the player’s uncle has said he is now planning to stay in Lisbon following a family meeting.
Asked whether Viktor would be happy to stay at Sporting, his Uncle said: “Yes, we think so.
“Yesterday at dinner we decided that he has to stay.”
Gyokeres himself has given far less away in his own interviews. Asked for an update on his future this week, he simply said: “Hopefully you can expect I keep improving and score goals."
Manchester United are also interested in the player and may look to intercept Arsenal’s move for his signature.
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AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Thursday at 7:45 PM
  • #1,132
Viktor Gyökeres has told Sporting team-mates he is unsure where he will be playing next year, with the 26-year-old linked with Arsenal and Manchester United.

(Source: Canal 11)
 
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chiefdave

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  • Thursday at 7:54 PM
  • #1,133
Calista said:
[From London Evening Standard]
Gyokeres now set to stay at Sporting

There has been yet another twist in the meandering saga of Viktor Gyokeres’ future. Just when Arsenal seemed to be closing in on a deal for the prolific Sporting CP striker, a new spanner has been thrown in the works.
In a new interview, the player’s uncle has said he is now planning to stay in Lisbon following a family meeting.
Asked whether Viktor would be happy to stay at Sporting, his Uncle said: “Yes, we think so.
“Yesterday at dinner we decided that he has to stay.”
Gyokeres himself has given far less away in his own interviews. Asked for an update on his future this week, he simply said: “Hopefully you can expect I keep improving and score goals."
Manchester United are also interested in the player and may look to intercept Arsenal’s move for his signature.
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Given everything we hear about him is how driven he is I doubt he's deciding his playing future at a dinner with his uncle

At this point of his career what is the advantage in staying? Only reason I can see him staying is if he doesn't get the offer he wants from elsewhere
 
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Samueljames1991

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  • Thursday at 8:41 PM
  • #1,134
chiefdave said:
Given everything we hear about him is how driven he is I doubt he's deciding his playing future at a dinner with his uncle

At this point of his career what is the advantage in staying? Only reason I can see him staying is if he doesn't get the offer he wants from elsewhere
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He'll definitely move on this summer he's been a consistent 20 goal season player for 4 seasons now. He's scored a hat trick against Man City in the champions league and is athletically incredibly gifted.

Him going sporting for these two years was a blinder by his agent though.

Got an easy league to stat pad and get champions league football. He'll now will get a move to a big club rather than premier league bottom half clubs.
 
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mmttww

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  • Thursday at 9:49 PM
  • #1,135
Calista said:
“Yesterday at dinner we decided that he has to stay.”
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Anyone know what they ate? Must've been good.
 
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wingy

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  • Thursday at 10:20 PM
  • #1,136
mmttww said:
Anyone know what they ate? Must've been good.
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Meatballs!
 

mmttww

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  • Thursday at 10:34 PM
  • #1,137
wingy said:
Meatballs!
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Sbarcher

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  • Thursday at 10:36 PM
  • #1,138
Rutabaga.
 

Sbarcher

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  • Thursday at 10:39 PM
  • #1,139
Surely at his age Vik can’t remain at Sporting if he has high ambitions.
 
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wingy

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  • Thursday at 11:58 PM
  • #1,140
Sbarcher said:
Surely at his age Vik can’t remain at Sporting if he has high ambitions.
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Maybe a bluff,who knows, least those sporting fans taking the Micky might end up with egg on face.
 

Skyblueweeman

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  • Friday at 7:38 AM
  • #1,141
As nice as it would be, we can't really plan our transfer strategy on whether Vik moves or not.

I'd be hopeful that the plan is based on Vik not moving so that if he does, it's a bonus and not central to our strategy.
 
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oscillatewildly

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  • Friday at 7:53 AM
  • #1,142
Sbarcher said:
Surely at his age Vik can’t remain at Sporting if he has high ambitions.
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If so it won't involve a move to Man U then.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Friday at 8:37 AM
  • #1,143
Calista said:
[From London Evening Standard]
Gyokeres now set to stay at Sporting

There has been yet another twist in the meandering saga of Viktor Gyokeres’ future. Just when Arsenal seemed to be closing in on a deal for the prolific Sporting CP striker, a new spanner has been thrown in the works.
In a new interview, the player’s uncle has said he is now planning to stay in Lisbon following a family meeting.
Asked whether Viktor would be happy to stay at Sporting, his Uncle said: “Yes, we think so.
“Yesterday at dinner we decided that he has to stay.”
Gyokeres himself has given far less away in his own interviews. Asked for an update on his future this week, he simply said: “Hopefully you can expect I keep improving and score goals."
Manchester United are also interested in the player and may look to intercept Arsenal’s move for his signature.
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That stinks of agent dropping something into the media to get an improved offer.
 
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Balli001

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  • Friday at 9:29 AM
  • #1,144
Liquid Gold said:
That stinks of agent dropping something into the media to get an improved offer.
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In which case Fabrizio will be all over this story soon saying the fee is huge
 
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Viktor17

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  • Friday at 9:32 AM
  • #1,145
He will be moving, this is his window for the huge move whilst at peak of powers.

classic agent chat, hopefully driving price up.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Friday at 9:49 AM
  • #1,146
There's no real benefit for Gyokeres to actually stay at Sporting.

Wage wise alone he will be able to earn probably 4x his current salary at least moving to a PL team.

Sporting don't pay big wages and really their ceiling in terms of competing in the CL has probably already been hit.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Friday at 10:21 AM
  • #1,147
I don't get why some are being so sensitive about him posting the picture of the sign being held up...it's not even offensive towards us.
 
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biggymania

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  • Friday at 10:33 AM
  • #1,148
I don't think staying at Sporting is out of the question - I am not sure Arsenal have ever been seriously into him as an option. This has been talked about for a good year or more now and nothing has materialised - makes me think it is mainly agents talking this up to attract bids.

United & Amorim would absolutely take him , but no Champions League and the realistic prospect of a relegation battle in the Premiership next year. Also not sure Utd have £60M to spare solely on a striker, honestly.

So, if no top tier team with Champions League is actually going to bid, I think he'll stay at Sporting - go for 3 titles in a row and another season in the Champion's League.
 

Sbarcher

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  • Friday at 11:55 AM
  • #1,149
Let’s not dismiss other European leagues. Lots of other monied clubs out there.
 
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Calista

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  • Friday at 12:46 PM
  • #1,150
Liquid Gold said:
That stinks of agent dropping something into the media to get an improved offer.
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That occurred to me too. I only posted what was written.
 

Shannerz

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  • Friday at 1:16 PM
  • #1,151
Viktor17 said:
classic agent chat, hopefully driving price up.
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If he has a release clause, then that's irrelevant, isn't it? Every bid that meets that cost has to be accepted.

Why would anyone offer more?

They may do it to drive up personal demands, but not transfer fee.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Friday at 1:19 PM
  • #1,152
Shannerz said:
If he has a release clause, then that's irrelevant, isn't it? Every bid that meets that cost has to be accepted.

Why would anyone offer more?

They may do it to drive up personal demands, but not transfer fee.
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It will be to do with personal demands. I'd say for most transfers now certainly on the bigger scale of things they're usually the first to get sorted before speaking to the club.
 
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Jcap

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  • Friday at 4:12 PM
  • #1,153
Skyblueweeman said:
As nice as it would be, we can't really plan our transfer strategy on whether Vik moves or not.

I'd be hopeful that the plan is based on Vik not moving so that if he does, it's a bonus and not central to our strategy.
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I’m led to believe this is exactly what the plan is
 
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SkyBlueCharlie9

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  • Friday at 4:32 PM
  • #1,154
I wonder if Villa, Chelsea or Newcastle get in Champions League they will go for him? Would be surprised if Arsenal aren't tempted too. That said a lot of top European clubs will be looking at him.
 

AOM

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  • Friday at 5:02 PM
  • #1,155
Sbarcher said:
Let’s not dismiss other European leagues. Lots of other monied clubs out there.
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Personally would prefer to see him playing for a team in the other European leagues rather than someone like Arsenal or one of the Manchester clubs.
From a Coventry City perspective though, obviously we just want him to go who will pay the most
 
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