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  • Start date Jun 20, 2024
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #946
SkyB said:
We get 10% of Sporting's profit, was 15% but we sold 5% early to sign BTA and Bassette.
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this is incorrect. sporting settled early as they’d already paid some of the add ons and knew that if they paid the remainder it would reduce the sell on percentage from 15% to 10%. Just common sense from their perspective due to likely sale value
 
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mmttww

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #947
Brighton's share has already been paid, no?

Remember something in the deal about that.
 
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Lamps

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #948
skybluecam said:
That’s only 10% of our 10%.
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And 10% of what we've already received. So it's already in the millions but rarely gets mentioned.
 

Diogenes

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #949
Does anyone know what the sell on amount would be if vik moved?
 

Lamps

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #950
Diogenes said:
Does anyone know what the sell on amount would be if vik moved?
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Not exactly but for us 9% of fee minus what we have already received.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #951
mmttww said:
Brighton's share has already been paid, no?

Remember something in the deal about that.
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yeah, i think Sporting Club brought that out in the original deal
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #952
SkyB said:
Ahh lovely the deja vu thread is back!

We get 10% of Sporting's profit, was 15% but we sold 5% early to sign BTA and Bassette.

They spent roughly £21mill (€24mill). If they sell him for €100mill we will get €7.6mill (£6.4mill at todays exchange rate). If they sell him for €80mill we get €5.6mill (£4.7mill at todays exchange rates).

Also from this you can imply that our value of BTA and Bassette was £3.2mill - £4.1mill which I'd say roughly tracks as good business.
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Not sure we could trigger it. I think it had to be Sporting.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #953
Sporting paid Brightons sell on for the original transfer, not sure if it was clear if they pay future ones too.
 

Shannerz

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #954
Diogenes said:
Does anyone know what the sell on amount would be if vik moved?
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Some beans.
 

The Great Eastern

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #955
Shannerz said:
Some beans.
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Only marginally less than what Watford paid for a 17 year old John Barnes in 1981. Allegedly, a set of shirts and (maybe) a net of training balls...
 
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DrPoolittle

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #956
Brighton qualify for a pay on because the deal was that they get a proportion of any profit City make.

Depending on who you believe, BHA might get 50% of anything City make now
 
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wingy

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  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #957
Skyblue Bangkok said:
Schalke's average gate is 61 k , two other sides in the German 2 nd tier have average gates of 50 k plus and 4 others have an average of 40 k .
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What is the cost I wonder and out of what income it comes?
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #958
Gyokeres transfer details:



Translation:

SPORTING CLUBE DE PORTUGAL – FUTEBOL, SAD


Issuer of shares admitted to trading on a regulated market


Share Capital: €150,571,872


Equity approved in the General Assembly on September 29, 2022 (€16,303,000)


Head Office: Estádio José Alvalade – Rua Professor Fernando da Fonseca, Lisbon


Registered with the Lisbon Commercial Registry Office under registration and tax identification number 503 994 499





OFFICIAL STATEMENT





SPORTING CLUBE DE PORTUGAL – FUTEBOL, SAD (hereinafter referred to as Sporting SAD) hereby informs, in compliance with the obligation set forth in Article 17 of Regulation (EU) No. 596/2014 of the European Parliament and of the Council, dated April 16, that an agreement has been reached with Coventry City F.C. (hereinafter referred to as Coventry) regarding the acquisition, on a permanent basis, of the sporting rights of the player Viktor Gyökeres, for the amount of €20,000,000.00 (twenty million euros), to which an additional amount of up to €4,000,000.00 (four million euros) may be added, conditional upon achieving individual and collective performance objectives.





Additionally, Coventry retains the right to receive an amount corresponding to 15% of any future transfer profit, a percentage that may be reduced to 10% at Sporting SAD’s discretion depending on the partial fulfillment of the aforementioned individual and collective performance objectives.





Furthermore, it is announced that a sports employment contract has been signed between Sporting SAD and the player, valid for five (5) sports seasons, i.e., until June 30, 2028, including a termination clause valued at €100,000,000.00 (one hundred million euros).





It is also clarified that the solidarity mechanism due to clubs will be covered by Sporting SAD and that the amounts related to intermediation services related to this transfer will amount to €2,200,000.00 (two million two hundred thousand euros).
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Last paragraph is saying Sporting will pay the sell on Brighton and it was €2.2m. Which suggests either an 11% sell on or 10% with a bit accounting for sell ons.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #959
Buzzing. I’ve been desperate for this argument to start again.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #960
Sick Boy said:
Buzzing. I’ve been desperate for this argument to start again.
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It’s about the only transfer ever we’ve had documentary evidence of the terms from day one and yet it’s caused more discussion than any other. Madness.
 
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mmttww

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #961
Sick Boy said:
Buzzing. I’ve been desperate for this argument to start again.
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"You love to see it!"

 
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Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #962
shmmeee said:
Gyokeres transfer details:

View attachment 40792

Translation:



Last paragraph is saying Sporting will pay the sell on Brighton and it was €2.2m. Which suggests either an 11% sell on or 10% with a bit accounting for sell ons.
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That was my understanding but it's a bit strange as King said:

“Viktor has gone crazy in terms of how he has performed," King told talkSPORT. "That was a tough negotiation with Sporting Lisbon and if he does move on to somewhere else in his career then we will benefit. I’m not holding my breath. We are not running the club on that basis, but we will take it.

“A large part of that will go to his original club Brighton, everyone seems to think it will go straight in the coffers but it will go down the chain. You need to be bringing them up from your academy to get the full 100 per cent.”
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #963
Frostie said:
That was my understanding but it's a bit strange as King said:

“Viktor has gone crazy in terms of how he has performed," King told talkSPORT. "That was a tough negotiation with Sporting Lisbon and if he does move on to somewhere else in his career then we will benefit. I’m not holding my breath. We are not running the club on that basis, but we will take it.

“A large part of that will go to his original club Brighton, everyone seems to think it will go straight in the coffers but it will go down the chain. You need to be bringing them up from your academy to get the full 100 per cent.”
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King says a lot of things.
 
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Bova

Active Member
  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #964
Large part my arse….no proof of that obviously as I wasn’t present in negotiations just smacks of lowering our expectations of what if any will be reinvested
 
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GC1976

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  • Jan 17, 2025
  • #965
VIK is a good player BUT not sure he’s worth that kind of fee 80mill won’t complain though. He's performed in the Championship and according to this BBC article he almost can’t win the European Golden boot because the Portuguese league is only 7th best in Europe so he’s not in the mix as you have to perform in top 5 leagues which he never has at 26 years of age !

Robert Lewandowski, Harry Kane, Erling Haaland, Mohamed Salah, Omar Marmoush, Raphinha banging in the goals

BBC Sport looks at Europe's six top goalscorers this season - including two Barcelona forwards.
www.bbc.com
 

Sbarcher

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2025
  • #966
Surely this has got to be Arsenal’s chance. City blown it, Forest to eventually start to falter and can Liverpool continue their form? Looks like only Arsenal as real competition. Sign a striker (hopefully Vik) and they stand an excellent chance of overtaking Liverpool.
 
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Chris1987

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  • Jan 17, 2025
  • #967
Sbarcher said:
Surely this has got to be Arsenal’s chance. City blown it, Forest to eventually start to falter and can Liverpool continue their form? Looks like only Arsenal as real competition. Sign a striker (hopefully Vik) and they stand an excellent chance of overtaking Liverpool.
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There chances would be significantly better. In the back of my mind Arteta will find a way to balls things up.
 

Gynnsthetonic

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 17, 2025
  • #968
Sbarcher said:
Surely this has got to be Arsenal’s chance. City blown it, Forest to eventually start to falter and can Liverpool continue their form? Looks like only Arsenal as real competition. Sign a striker (hopefully Vik) and they stand an excellent chance of overtaking Liverpool.
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What makes you suggest Forest are about to falter, they look stronger than Arsenal
 
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stevefloyd

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 18, 2025
  • #969
Makes no difference what the sell on fee to us is because Razor sharp Doug won't fucking spend any on new players !
 

Sbarcher

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 18, 2025
  • #970
Gynnsthetonic said:
What makes you suggest Forest are about to falter, they look stronger than Arsenal
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Not once they sign Vik!
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jan 18, 2025
  • #971
stevefloyd said:
Makes no difference what the sell on fee to us is because Razor sharp Doug won't fucking spend any on new players !
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To be fair to him he’s reinvested most of fees that have come in for players since he’s been here.
 
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ccfcchris

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  • Jan 18, 2025
  • #972

Arsenal have fresh Viktor Gyokeres concern as striker’s agent speaks out

Arsenal are aiming to sign a new striker in January and a few candidates are already under consideration including Viktor Gyokeres of Sporting Lisbon and Red Bull Leipzig star Benjamin Sesko
www.mirror.co.uk
 

mmttww

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 18, 2025
  • #973
stevefloyd said:
Makes no difference what the sell on fee to us is because Razor sharp Doug won't fucking spend any on new players !
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Have you and a bunch of other posters drank some kind of Facebook kool aid? It's like bots on Youtube posting comments about soy boys and pegging.

King: spends more than 100% of the Vik and Hamer fees across three transfer windows.

Fans: King won't spend fees we get on new players! Doug Bling is pocketing the money.
 
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stevefloyd

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  • Jan 18, 2025
  • #974
mmttww said:
Have you and a bunch of other posters drank some kind of Facebook kool aid? It's like bots on Youtube posting comments about soy boys and pegging.

King: spends more than 100% of the Vik and Hamer fees across three transfer windows.

Fans: King won't spend fees we get on new players! Doug Bling is pocketing the money.
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To be fair mine was more of a tongue in cheek remark about not signing any new players this transfer window, poking fun at the 'other posters' in a sarcastic manner!
 
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stevefloyd

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  • Jan 18, 2025
  • #975
Sick Boy said:
To be fair to him he’s reinvested most of fees that have come in for players since he’s been here.
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See above post
 
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mmttww

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 18, 2025
  • #976
stevefloyd said:
To be fair mine was more of a tongue in cheek remark about not signing any new players this transfer window, poking fun at the 'other posters' in a sarcastic manner!
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You hid it well. Kudos. Have one of these...

 
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Senior Vick from Alicante

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  • Jan 18, 2025
  • #977
I love Vik he's a great player, Premier league clubs are hesitant to buy him though. It's either they think the buy out is going to come down as he's too expensive or they think he might not be the style of player to suit top end teams. The Portuguese league isn't the best to prove yourself in if you want to play in the Prem, always thought he would end up in Italy which suits his style, they like a combative physical striker.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 18, 2025
  • #978
Senior Vick from Alicante said:
I love Vik he's a great player, Premier league clubs are hesitant to buy him though. It's either they think the buy out is going to come down as he's too expensive or they think he might not be the style of player to suit top end teams. The Portuguese league isn't the best to prove yourself in if you want to play in the Prem, always thought he would end up in Italy which suits his style, they like a combative physical striker.
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I maintain he would score for fun in the Bundesliga
 
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Fergusons_Beard

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  • Jan 18, 2025
  • #979
Senior Vick from Alicante said:
I love Vik he's a great player, Premier league clubs are hesitant to buy him though. It's either they think the buy out is going to come down as he's too expensive or they think he might not be the style of player to suit top end teams. The Portuguese league isn't the best to prove yourself in if you want to play in the Prem, always thought he would end up in Italy which suits his style, they like a combative physical striker.
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Showed against Man City in Champions league he can easily handle Prem


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Gleneagles65

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 18, 2025
  • #980
Sub today but just scored again.
 
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