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HJones23

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  • Jan 7, 2025
  • #911
Captain Dart said:
Or going for that massively lucrative contract in Saudi.
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Wouldn’t surprise me if he wanted a couple of years in the prem to try and break Shearers goal record whilst he’s still involved with the England squad. Could definitely see him heading to Saudi or the US after the World Cup though when he retires from internationals
 

Domo

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  • Jan 7, 2025
  • #912
HJones23 said:
Wouldn’t surprise me if he wanted a couple of years in the prem to try and break Shearers goal record whilst he’s still involved with the England squad. Could definitely see him heading to Saudi or the US after the World Cup though when he retires from internationals
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id love it if he did, imagine leaving uk for a couple years, then coming back and smashing shearers records surely kane wouldnt go back to spurs
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Jan 7, 2025
  • #913
TomRad85 said:
Bayern would be a great move for Vik. Huge club and unlike Utd, still pretty good now.
Could see it being a good fit.
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Was just watching a vblog about the German 2 Nd Div, average crowds of 30 k, 6 of which have average crowd of 40 k plus, 2 of 50 k plus and Schalke of 60 k plus ( 11 th highest average in world football more than Arsenal & Liverpool). 3 sides in German 3 rd tier have average gates of 21 k .
 
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skybluecam

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  • Jan 7, 2025
  • #914
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 7, 2025
  • #915
Skyblue Bangkok said:
Was just watching a vblog about the German 2 Nd Div, average crowds of 30 k, 6 of which have average crowd of 40 k plus, 2 of 50 k plus and Schalke of 60 k plus ( 11 th highest average in world football more than Arsenal & Liverpool). 3 sides in German 3 rd tier have average gates of 21 k .
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The reward for not whoring clubs out to the highest bidders
 
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Bertola

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #916
I know they wont.... but my god, if Arsenal ever wanted Vik, surely they just go and offer his release clause now? He's perfect for them, Jesus out injured, they literally can't go on with just Havertz. Spend the bloody money!
 
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Winny the Bish

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #917
Bertola said:
I know they wont.... but my god, if Arsenal ever wanted Vik, surely they just go and offer his release clause now? He's perfect for them, Jesus out injured, they literally can't go on with just Havertz. Spend the bloody money!
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Think they're going to try and save money by getting a striker in on loan. Apparently already signed CDM Zubimendi for the summer for £51m so that takes a big chunk out of what they can do FFP-wise and they want a new LW too.

Arteta loves Havertz so much for some reason and made him Arsenal's highest-paid player so annoyingly I reckon they stick by him despite him being obviously not good enough.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #918
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The reward for not whoring clubs out to the highest bidders
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TBF though there are more teams in the Championship averaging >20k than there are in Bundesliga 2.

The statistics are distorted by some of the big clubs that are in the league currently (Hamburg average 55k, Schalke 61k)
 
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Chris1987

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #919
Winny the Bish said:
Think they're going to try and save money by getting a striker in on loan. Apparently already signed CDM Zubimendi for the summer for £51m so that takes a big chunk out of what they can do FFP-wise and they want a new LW too.

Arteta loves Havertz so much for some reason and made him Arsenal's highest-paid player so annoyingly I reckon they stick by him despite him being obviously not good enough.
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Arteta is a very stubborn individual and has constantly defended the sum Arsenal paid for Havertz . He is only just coming round to admitting that they need a proper number 9 .
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #920
fernandopartridge said:
TBF though there are more teams in the Championship averaging >20k than there are in Bundesliga 2.

The statistics are distorted by some of the big clubs that are in the league currently (Hamburg average 55k, Schalke 61k)
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Bundsliga 2 average crowd is 30 k, Schalke have the 11 Rd highest average gate in the world ,.
 

skybluecam

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #921
Skyblue Bangkok said:
Bundsliga 2 average crowd is 30 k, Schalke have the 11 Rd highest average gate in the world ,.
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It has the advantage of being in a larger country and German leagues being smaller.

The team bottom of the 2 Bundesliga is 32nd in Germany, the team bottom of the champ is 44th in England.

I reckon the Championship is better supported, relatively speaking.
 
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larry_david

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #922
Chris1987 said:
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Arteta is a very stubborn individual and has constantly defended the sum Arsenal paid for Havertz . He is only just coming round to admitting that they need a proper number 9 .
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He's missed 3 absolute shockers in the last two games. The reason they'll soon be out of 2 cups in a week. Can't stand stubborn managers, watching arsenal is like watching cov, obviously cov are a worse level. Absolutely zero excitement or flare to their play
 
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Chris1987

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  • Jan 14, 2025
  • #923
larry_david said:
He's missed 3 absolute shockers in the last two games. The reason they'll soon be out of 2 cups in a week. Can't stand stubborn managers, watching arsenal is like watching cov, obviously cov are a worse level. Absolutely zero excitement or flare to their play
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They just flatter to deceive. A mentally fragile squad and a club hierarchy who are also slow to react. With the fall off in Man City Arsenal should have been in prime position to take advantage and Liverpool acted swiftly . Instead another balls up .
 
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Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon

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  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #924
Chris1987 said:
They just flatter to deceive. A mentally fragile squad and a club hierarchy who are also slow to react. With the fall off in Man City Arsenal should have been in prime position to take advantage and Liverpool acted swiftly . Instead another balls up .
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Similarto the season Leicester won the league, except it's Forest looking most likely to capitalise (i admit that's not looking so likely without a serious collapse from Liverpool)
 

Terry_dactyl

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  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #925
Bertola said:
I know they wont.... but my god, if Arsenal ever wanted Vik, surely they just go and offer his release clause now? He's perfect for them, Jesus out injured, they literally can't go on with just Havertz. Spend the bloody money!
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They seem to want Isak more I think I read.
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #926
skybluecam said:
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What a selfish fucker!!!
 

Chris1987

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  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #927
Terry_dactyl said:
They seem to want Isak more I think I read.
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Would not be at all surprised if Newcastle would want more than £80M . Arsenal I don't think would stump up the cash
 
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Martw

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  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #928
Bertola said:
I know they wont.... but my god, if Arsenal ever wanted Vik, surely they just go and offer his release clause now? He's perfect for them, Jesus out injured, they literally can't go on with just Havertz. Spend the bloody money!
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He has struck me as an Arsenal player for two years or more , they obviously see or rather don’t see something that prevents them from spending money on him
 
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Martw

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  • Jan 15, 2025
  • #929
skybluecam said:
It has the advantage of being in a larger country and German leagues being smaller.

The team bottom of the 2 Bundesliga is 32nd in Germany, the team bottom of the champ is 44th in England.

I reckon the Championship is better supported, relatively speaking.
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I’m sure I’ve read that the championship is the world’s 5th biggest league ? Premier , Italy , Spain and Germany being the first 4
 

edgy

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  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #930
Lots of media chatter overnight about Arsenal finally ready to trigger the release clause.....
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #931
Martw said:
I’m sure I’ve read that the championship is the world’s 5th biggest league ? Premier , Italy , Spain and Germany being the first 4
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Schalke's average gate is 61 k , two other sides in the German 2 nd tier have average gates of 50 k plus and 4 others have an average of 40 k .
 
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Skyblueabo1111

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  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #932
Saddlebrains said:
I have it as more

15% sell on for us on the profit no? So if he goes for the £85 million release clause, sporting profit of £65 Million That's almost £10 million no?
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Now 10 PC. Plus take off what we sold him for.
 
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SkyBluePower

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  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #933
We are going to end up with about £5M aren’t we? A tidy sum but not game changing.
 
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skybluecam

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  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #934
Chris1987 said:
Would not be at all surprised if Newcastle would want more than £80M . Arsenal I don't think would stump up the cash
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Newcastle should be asking for 100-120m for Isak. Selling him to another prem club for less than 100 would be an admission they don’t expect to be competing for the title for a while.
 
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Skyblueweeman

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  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #935
SkyBluePower said:
We are going to end up with about £5M aren’t we? A tidy sum but not game changing.
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Didn't we also get £2.5m in the summer when the reduced his sell on % from 15% to 10%?

Back on the Arsenal topic, I'm stunned they've not bought him. Or Man Utd to be fair. Both are screaming out for an out and out striker and he'd be perfect for both of them. Genuinely think if he went to either them, he'd be the difference between them winning trophies or not.
 
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rob9872

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  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #936
Skyblueweeman said:
Didn't we also get £2.5m in the summer when the reduced his sell on % from 15% to 10%?

Back on the Arsenal topic, I'm stunned they've not bought him. Or Man Utd to be fair. Both are screaming out for an out and out striker and he'd be perfect for both of them. Genuinely think if he went to either them, he'd be the difference between them winning trophies or not.
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Not sure of 2.5m I think some of that staged payments and only €1m was the reduction. Took the total to €24m (approx £20m). We then receive 10% of the balance of anything above that number.
 
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Skyblueweeman

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  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #937
rob9872 said:
Not sure of 2.5m I think some of that staged payments and only €1m was the reduction. Took the total to €24m (approx £20m). We then receive 10% of the balance of anything above that number.
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Ah ok...couldn't remember the exact numbers but knew we got something in return for reducing the %.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #938
€20m up front plus 15% sell on
Sporting had the option to pay €4m (or the balance) to reduce the sell on to 10% which they took in the summer. If he goes for less than the release we’re quids in otherwise we aren’t.
 

Captain Dart

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  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #939
Skyblueweeman said:
Ah ok...couldn't remember the exact numbers but knew we got something in return for reducing the %.
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And do not forget to knock 10% off everything we recieve to pay Brighton their due.
 
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RoboCCFC90

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  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #940
Skyblueweeman said:
Didn't we also get £2.5m in the summer when the reduced his sell on % from 15% to 10%?

Back on the Arsenal topic, I'm stunned they've not bought him. Or Man Utd to be fair. Both are screaming out for an out and out striker and he'd be perfect for both of them. Genuinely think if he went to either them, he'd be the difference between them winning trophies or not.
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Given that Arsenal have spent 103m euros in last three years on Jesus and Havertz when Arsenal could've tried to tempt Gyokeres for a quarter of the combined fees, 18 months ago you become even more bewildered by their decision.

I totally agree that a firing Vik in Arsenal's team could've been the difference between a title or another trophy that they've missed out on.
 
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SkyB

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  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #941
Ahh lovely the deja vu thread is back!

We get 10% of Sporting's profit, was 15% but we sold 5% early to sign BTA and Bassette.

They spent roughly £21mill (€24mill). If they sell him for €100mill we will get €7.6mill (£6.4mill at todays exchange rate). If they sell him for €80mill we get €5.6mill (£4.7mill at todays exchange rates).

Also from this you can imply that our value of BTA and Bassette was £3.2mill - £4.1mill which I'd say roughly tracks as good business.
 

Lamps

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  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #942
SkyB said:
Ahh lovely the deja vu thread is back!

We get 10% of Sporting's profit, was 15% but we sold 5% early to sign BTA and Bassette.

They spent roughly £21mill (€24mill). If they sell him for €100mill we will get €7.6mill (£6.4mill at todays exchange rate). If they sell him for €80mill we get €5.6mill (£4.7mill at todays exchange rates).

Also from this you can imply that our value of BTA and Bassette was £3.2mill - £4.1mill which I'd say roughly tracks as good business.
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You also have to take off what we would have to give to Brighton.
 
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edgy

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  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #943
The sheer ignorance of Prem League fans on Twitter is astonishing. Reading through some comments from Arsenal fans to gauge their thoughts.

I've seen a couple of remarks saying Gyokeres was a flop at Coventry. Sporting signed him for £900k. Slow carthorse.
 
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Nick

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  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #944
edgy said:
The sheer ignorance of Prem League fans on Twitter is astonishing. Reading through some comments from Arsenal fans to gauge their thoughts.

I've seen a couple of remarks saying Gyokeres was a flop at Coventry. Sporting signed him for £900k. Slow carthorse.
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What do you expect when you see the gimps like Arsenal TV and Mark Goldbridge, who are seen as "figures" about stuff?
 
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skybluecam

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  • Jan 16, 2025
  • #945
Lamps said:
You also have to take off what we would have to give to Brighton.
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That’s only 10% of our 10%.
 
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