Not a true supporter then! During the many years I've supported we've had many owners but it's not about them, it's about the manager & the team.
I hope Ann & her Council cronies are proud of themselves! PUSB!
You used to be able to debate a topic, where did it all go wrong for you?
200,000 of which probably don't pay any council tax anyway.They probably are to be fair
Although its not great as a cov fan they are looking after the other 280,000 people.
The starting point always for me is we should have bought the share we didn't.
We continued to relentlessly play games.
I now understand why the council accepted wasps offer.
I would be outraged if we were trying to buy ACL
Not put it out of business
Not adamantly saying we were moving out if Cov
Not saying Freehold or nothing
Not suing the people we may need to strike a deal with.
If we were putting in a straight forward bid for ACL like wasps did and the council rejected it then sold it to wasps fair enough.
However it isn't like that we tried to screw ACL out of business and played constant games. We created this situation
Some of us have a moral compass and refuse to make their stay viable.
Well done you. What do you want, a medal?
Some of us have a moral compass
Well done you. What do you want, a medal?
Some people dont go, some do, as they want to support their team and dont want to see it go out of business, they also detach the club from SISU, you know the club that's been in existence for a lot longer than they have been associated with us.
People disagree and see things differently...that's life.
Each to their own of course.
If you're happy to fund their stay while they serve up shit to you and treat you with contempt then carry on.
Zzzz we await the next knight in shining armour you cream yourself over.
Is yours Joy?
SISU havent delivered on one point of their business plan.
Pressley plays 3-5-2 and we are rolled over, everyone blames Pressley.
SISU play 3-5-2 and we are rolled over, everyone blames CCC.
The latest fixation is to blame Wasps.
When it comes to the local economy, under SISU we have gone from premium supermarket to stall holder at the local car boot sale.
SISU havent delivered on one point of their business plan.
Pressley plays 3-5-2 and we are rolled over, everyone blames Pressley.
SISU play 3-5-2 and we are rolled over, everyone blames CCC.
The latest fixation is to blame Wasps.
When it comes to the local economy, under SISU we have gone from premium supermarket to stall holder at the local car boot sale.
SISU havent delivered on one point of their business plan.
Each to their own of course.
If you're happy to fund their stay while they serve up shit to you and treat you with contempt then carry on.
Pressley plays 3-5-2 and we are rolled over, everyone blames Pressley.
SISU play 3-5-2 and we are rolled over, everyone blames CCC.
The latest fixation is to blame Wasps.
When it comes to the local economy, under SISU we have gone from premium supermarket to stall holder at the local car boot sale.
SISU havent delivered on one point of their business plan.
I've never understood having to take sides in who to blame. sisu are parasites and have been a disaster for ccfc. acl never made a profit net of ccfc rent until the last year and finally it was admitted they are just washing their face - hardly a success story. ccc have acted appallingly with the wasps deal. And wasps are a chronic example of a financial franchise not a sports club and the preference for transient customers over loyal supporters. Not one of these parties has the best interests of ccfc at heart. Only us supporters do
are CCC or ACL obliged to have the best interests of CCFC at heart? Or do they have other responsibilities? Our owners are probably the only party obliged to at least try and run the club - it must say in the Articles and Memorandum what the aims of the company ( Otium ) are. The fans are powerless ( apart from changing their purchasing habits ) and are looking like a rather low priority in the ongoing games of all parties.
I didn't say they were. they have been appalling in their performance of responsibilities that are theirs.
Saying "The fans are powerless" is also completely untrue. We need a sticky which says 'swansea, pompey, sixfields - fans do have power and the proof is there for all to see'
Ok, but it is obviously limited. In our case, I think SISU were aware of talks with Wasps and that helped swing the return - as well as the marches etc.. Fans want success or at least an attempt at success. Our owners are not interested in that ( ok it would be nice for them ), but at the moment success for them is a cash flow plus. How do we use our power to make them prioritize sporting success?
..... Fans want success or at least an attempt at success. Our owners are not interested in that ( ok it would be nice for them ), but at the moment success for them is a cash flow plus.
What they don't seem to get is that sporting success inevitably results in monetary success. It also requires an upfront investment in order to reap the resulting return. I'm not convinced they want monetary success. CCFC seems to be a convenient place to dump debt. Could it all be creative accounting?
No I choose to support my team, whilst you are the sort of armchair fan that would make up another excuse not to go even when SISU are long gone.
are CCC or ACL obliged to have the best interests of CCFC at heart? Or do they have other responsibilities? Our owners are probably the only party obliged to at least try and run the club - it must say in the Articles and Memorandum what the aims of the company ( Otium ) are. The fans are powerless ( apart from changing their purchasing habits ) and are looking like a rather low priority in the ongoing games of all parties.
No, they aren't obliged to. Surely it is the fact that they make out they have, give it the heart string pulling speeches about standing next to to fans on the terraces, live next door, love the club etc. If they don't want to help the club then fine, but they shouldn't act like they give a shit to try and get fans onside and to play the PR game.
Nick same old be said about our owners?
The only difference is they should be obliged to do what is best for the Club, I haven't seen anything yet to support this?
Have they come out with the speeches about loving the club like Lucas etc?
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